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| [06:39:33] | dekarl: | rmeden: I beg to differ. If its slow, then its more often then not the algorithm, not the tools ;) |
| [06:41:29] | dekarl: | If only there was a tool that could match 13 1/2 days of high quality data for many channels with 6 weeks of so/so data for some channels ;) |
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| [08:26:13] | stuarta: | morning all |
| [08:28:02] | Roklobsta: | hi stuart |
| [08:28:03] | Roklobsta: | a |
| [08:28:05] | Roklobsta: | not m |
| [08:28:32] | Roklobsta: | i suspect something is broken in the tuning system for dvb |
| [08:29:10] | Roklobsta: | i get FE_HAS_LOCK with tzap for channels that time out. |
| [08:29:14] | Roklobsta: | in mythtv |
| [08:32:06] | stuarta: | sounds like time for a rescan |
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| [08:41:44] | Roklobsta: | did all that |
| [08:42:00] | Roklobsta: | wiped all transports and channels, did full scan. |
| [08:43:35] | Roklobsta: | it locked on all the transports, found all the dvb channels and populated in the channel list. |
| [08:43:59] | Roklobsta: | but when tuning for recording or livetv it Partial Locks on all but one channel. |
| [08:48:08] | Roklobsta: | i am always prepared to admin PEBKAC but I can't see how at the minute. |
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| [09:44:47] | paul-h: | !seen knightr |
| [09:44:47] | MythLogBot: | knightr is here and has been idle for 1 day 8 hours 43 minutes 59 seconds |
| [09:45:44] | paul-h: | knightr: do you want me to commit the greek keyboard patch? |
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| [10:38:19] | paul-h: | gigem: Did you forget to add a commit message for your last commit to master or have we got gremlins in the system :) |
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| [11:04:32] | natanojl: | paul-h: I think he merged his devel/scheduler branch back to master without specifying --no-ff. Since there had been no new commits to master after the merge from master to devel/scheduler the merge back to master could be fast-forwarded. I don't know if we have a policy for this but omitting --no-ff can make it hard to see when a branch has been merged back to master |
| [11:17:35] | knightr: | paul-h, no, I will commit it, sorry... |
| [11:19:10] | knightr: | didn't you want to do some cleanup of some files from master, I am not sure which ones... I can commit all of them and at worst you will cleanup after... |
| [11:23:00] | knightr: | oops, I see that you removed them in your last commit... |
| [11:32:18] | paul-h: | natanojl: maybe it's the way I have my email filters set up but it looked like a merge to his scheduler branch followed by a commit to master with no commit message – I don't think I will ever understand git I think my brain must be wired differently than it's devs it just confuses the f*$% out of me |
| [11:32:43] | paul-h: | knightr: OK I tested it in master it it all looked good to me |
| [11:33:41] | stuartm: | gigem: has the new scheduler (multirec replacement) been merged into master? |
| [11:44:02] | knightr: | paul-h, they are committed now, thank you! |
| [11:44:10] | natanojl: | paul-h: It has nothing to do with your email filters ;) The commit to master is the same as the merge to devel/scheduler. When merging back to master git simply changed the master branch to point to that commit instead of doing a new merge commit |
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| [11:55:57] | paul-h: | In that case I'm wondering if that was intentional you'd think with a change like that you'd at least want to let everyone know about it in case it breaks something |
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| [12:02:32] | paul-h: | I'm of to celebrate another rich relative has left me $8.3Million US Dollars in there will :) |
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| [12:16:29] | stuartm: | paul-h: remember your friends! |
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| [12:31:54] | paul-h: | Nah – Think I'll buy a load of that miracle cream it will be handy for dusting the top shelf |
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| [13:31:10] | paul-h: | The AUTHORS files is way out of date I don't know who most of them are and I don't see any current dev in there |
| [13:33:55] | stuartm: | on the one hand I'd say remove it, but on the other it's supposed to be a complete list of everyone who has COPYRIGHT in the source |
| [13:35:07] | stuartm: | still, removing it seems easier, the full list of everyone who has contributed to the source code can be extracted from the SVN/GIT logs if someone really needed to do it (very unlikely unless we wanted to switch to a non-GPL license) |
| [13:49:10] | paul-h: | stuartm: did you contact Nick regarding his plan for the RT XMLTV grabber? |
| [13:58:36] | stuartm: | paul-h: I did, he intially expressed interest in finishing it himself, but I didn't hear back from him after my last email two weeks ago |
| [14:01:13] | stuartm: | he said he was going to be asking rmeden whether there would be any issue with having two different uk grabbers both using the same source, he also mentioned he was contacting metabroadcast to see if they'd let xmltv use a single 'project' key instead of one per user |
| [14:02:01] | stuartm: | apparently he met someone from metabroadcast in person a few weeks back and they gave the impression that it might be possible |
| [14:04:04] | rmeden: | stuartm: I told him I don't have a problem with multiple clients against a single source, if he (or someone else) wants to spend the time on it. |
| [14:04:05] | rmeden: | IDIC |
| [14:05:45] | paul-h: | Had to look that up :) Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations |
| [14:06:01] | stuartm: | rmeden: that's good, basically there are ideological differences between uk_rt and uk_atlas, the latter seeks to be a 'pure' source for Atlas while uk_rt has always applied fixups to the data to improve it for end users, stuff like marking programmes from HD channels as HD |
| [14:08:06] | stuartm: | uk_rt also uses the same xmltvids that it always has done (those complying with the recommended 'domain' format), so it offers continuity and ease of setup for MythTV users, uk_atlas uses magic numbers |
| [14:10:21] | stuarta: | curious Beirdo isn't even in the wiki list |
| [14:10:22] | stuartm: | and if Nick manages to wrangle an agreement on the API key from metabroadcast then the new uk_rt grabber would be a straight swap for the old grabber, no re-configuration necessary |
| [14:10:51] | stuartm: | stuarta: he's not? just an oversight surely |
| [14:11:36] | stuarta: | indeed |
| [14:14:10] | ** rmeden Is surprised to find IDIC was originally a marketing ploy by Roddenberry ** | |
| [14:14:17] | gigem: | paul-h: natanojl is correct. This was my first time working with public branches. I was surprised at how terse git was when devel/scheduler was merged into master. |
| [14:14:29] | stuartm: | stuarta: I've added him |
| [14:14:51] | gigem: | stuartm: Yes, it's merged. I'm [slowly] working on the capturecard/cardinput combination now. |
| [14:18:16] | stuartm: | gigem: great, looking forward to seeing it all working |
| [14:20:15] | stuartm: | one, perhaps unintentional side effect is that backend startup will be much faster without multi-rec, the current code which checks that tuners are working on startup (and sets the starting channel) isn't aware of the difference between real tuners and virtual tuners, so it performs the same tuning for each card at least three times (with a seconds pause between them) |
| [14:21:23] | gigem: | stuartm: The results so far have been underwhelming. It's not that the results are worse. They're just not better. The big thing is it lays some groundwork for more changes later. |
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| [14:22:08] | gigem: | stuartm: FYI, these changes just add some tuner affinity. The big multirec changes are still to come and will take a long time. |
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| [14:26:13] | stuartm: | noted |
| [14:34:35] | stuarta: | well that's the lottery ticket bought. worth a punt when ~ £150 million is the jackpot |
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| [15:14:04] | ** stuarta ponders https://readthedocs.org/ ** | |
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| [15:27:59] | stuartm: | stuarta: never understood that, it's not like the chances are winning are higher just because the jackpot is higher, or that 150 million is worth winning but 10 million is not |
| [15:28:58] | rmeden: | odds are worse.. more people buy the tickets... (tax on mathamatically challenged) |
| [15:29:15] | rmeden: | well, not odds on winning, odds of getting the max payout |
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| [15:32:27] | stuartm: | aye |
| [15:32:41] | stuarta: | stuartm: ah see the trick is, if you play it regularly the you become a statistically valid sample, and therefore will spend more money playing then you will actually ever win. However if you only play the odd gae here and there, then your chances are purely random |
| [15:32:54] | stuarta: | which lets face it is equally unlikely :) |
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| [17:53:24] | paul-h: | natanojl: in the new gallery do the directory and file counts shown on the thumb image show properly for you mine are all 0 |
| [17:55:24] | paul-h: | Also do the four directory images update properly I seem to have to go into a directory and out and if I'm lucky the directory image will update |
| [17:56:26] | paul-h: | Don't think any directory structure more than one deep is working properly at all |
| [17:58:32] | rmeden: | stuartm: do you think you shoudl add a link on the MythTV home page to the MythTV wiki page about the SD migration? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Schedules_Direct_URL_Change |
| [18:00:16] | paul-h: | It's segfaulted again :( |
| [18:13:10] | paul-h: | I thought the purpose of scanning for images and putting that information in the database was to speed the gallery up but it's actually slowed it down by a long way |
| [18:16:58] | paul-h: | It's so slow I keep pressing SELECT thinking it didn't register which shows the next directory only to backout again immediately because the selected item is the back one |
| [18:18:02] | paul-h: | stuartm: does it work any better on a combined FE/BE? |
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| [18:32:11] | natanojl: | paul-h: I also get 0 and the four small previews only updates after I've entered the directory |
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| [19:22:08] | stuartm: | rmeden: done |
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| [19:32:34] | stuartm: | paul-h: some, but it's still very buggy :/ I swear it all worked better than this when I first reviewed, makes me wonder if I screwed up the merge but it's all a bit late now |
| [19:33:26] | stuartm: | I promise I'll work on fixing some of the problems, but if it would make people feel better I can also disable it in master until it's working better |
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| [20:15:22] | natanojl: | paul-h: stuartm: Does this look correct/work for you? http://pastebin.com/0rPi9HmB |
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| [21:29:00] | paul-h: | natanojl: it's an improvement the file counts are now correct at least – had to wipe the DB and rescan though |
| [21:32:47] | paul-h: | Still a problem with the thumbs not updating and just segfaulted again but different bt this time |
| [21:37:22] | stuarta: | paul-h: you don't have any old libs lying around do you? |
| [21:42:53] | Roklobsta: | should i not update to the latest 0.28? |
| [21:45:10] | paul-h: | stuarta: doing a distclean just in case but both segfaults was in the new gallery code |
| [21:45:23] | stuarta: | paul-h: no i mean in the install location |
| [21:46:01] | paul-h: | OK I'll check |
| [21:54:39] | paul-h: | No change after removing all libs and reinstalling after a distclean |
| [21:54:59] | stuarta: | def the new code then |
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