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| [06:35:46] | dekarl: | \o/ lets start embedded database bike shedding. You know, we must be able to fix the database with magnets ;) |
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| [07:58:45] | stuarta: | bloody firewalls |
| [08:03:03] | ** stuarta ups dekarl's meds ** | |
| [08:03:36] | stuarta: | seriously, when i went to bed the forum was working, and then it stopped because the firewall did something silly |
| [08:05:31] | stuarta: | i really shouldn't fiddle |
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| [08:52:20] | Roklobsta: | listen to this next smoko. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGy-j_oH5Q |
| [08:52:29] | Roklobsta: | whups |
| [08:52:32] | Roklobsta: | wrong channel |
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| [09:35:07] | stuartm: | apropos http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/17/torva . . . nating_devs/ |
| [09:38:12] | stuartm: | dekarl: fwiw I've decided that it's better not to engage, if the devs ignore those sorts of posts/threads then hopefully they'll burn themselves out and if not at least we all keep our blood pressure low |
| [09:39:08] | stuartm: | after all we're not here to please users, let alone a minority of them |
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| [09:55:01] | stuarta: | who needs users? |
| [10:00:45] | stuartm: | we need developers, without them it doesn't matter how many users there are |
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| [10:14:18] | stuartm: | and we definitely don't need the developers we've got suffering strokes after being wound up by users :) |
| [10:15:28] | ** Seeker` goes to find a tranquiliser gun... ** | |
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| [10:20:37] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, that link is funny: Torvalds' ... was the subject of strident criticism by fellow developer Lennart Poettering,, who labelled the Linux community “quite a sick place to be inâ€. |
| [10:21:17] | dekarl-work: | strong language also comes from lots of non-native-speakers trying to get a point across |
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| [10:23:33] | stuarta: | well Lennart is a very strongly opinionate person as well |
| [10:27:12] | dekarl-work: | stuarta, that was my first thought, too |
| [10:27:45] | stuarta: | he has, erm.... "a reputation".... |
| [10:55:12] | coling_: | stuartm, no problemo. Will get on and do the latest updates shortly :) |
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| [11:20:21] | stuartm: | coling: great, thanks] |
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| [18:53:07] | stuartm: | coling: Luigi12 once asked about where we announce Security issues, well we don't have a formal proceedure but I've just pushed a fix to 0.27 for the issue identified by Akamai this morning in the UPnP SSDP protocol (applies to all UPnP devices) |
| [18:53:38] | stuartm: | maybe that's the sort of thing that he had in mind |
| [18:55:42] | stuartm: | it only applies to UPnP servers which are exposed to the internet and anyone exposing a UPnP device to the internet, especially a MythTV box needs their head checking, but we could apply something to deal with it, so we did |
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| [19:01:20] | stuartm: | I should also note that the fix hasn't actually been tested in the wild |
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| [20:52:35] | gigem: | Would it be a sign of maturity if a user stopped whining that we don't do what he would like us to do? |
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| [20:58:38] | tgm4883: | gigem: no, you must do exactly what I want |
| [20:58:47] | tgm4883: | which is a rewrite of mythbackend in python3 |
| [20:59:03] | jheizer: | I think we all gave up on replying today. |
| [20:59:28] | tgm4883: | I havne't looked today, is it bad |
| [20:59:49] | jheizer: | Not as bad. |
| [20:59:50] | dekarl: | tgm4883: Python3? I don't know of a bash library of that name! |
| [21:00:14] | jheizer: | Most of the opinions have moved to the embedded DB thread. |
| [21:01:00] | tgm4883: | jheizer: but embedded DB's are bad because I'm an oracle DBA of 35 years so everyone should know exactly how to tune and configure a DB |
| [21:01:25] | tgm4883: | relevant XKCD http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| [21:01:54] | dekarl: | tgm4883: if you don't like bash, you can rewrite mythtv in java and run it embedded in your oracle database ;) |
| [21:02:46] | tgm4883: | dekarl: no, we must rewrite it in javascript and make it so I can deploy it to amazon web services and run it in the cloud |
| [21:02:57] | jheizer: | DA CLOUD!!! |
| [21:03:25] | dekarl: | Let the cloud make your life easier! |
| [21:04:08] | tgm4883: | are there a bunch of rejected patches somewhere? |
| [21:04:22] | jheizer: | I got to have fun explaining to my client 2 seeks ago that all their mails sending were failing because their cloud SMTP service was overloaded and timing out. |
| [21:05:17] | gigem: | I think a rewrite in elisp would be better. I wouldn't have to leave the editor to test! |
| [21:05:42] | jheizer: | Instead of them runnign their own SMTP or at least having a proxy to store and forward, I had to write one into our service to store/serialize out failed emails and auto retry later. |
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