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[07:45:15] | stuartm: | any ideas why the audio stream on some channels is incorrectly reported as mpeg1 layer 1 in the stream, yet during playback it's correctly identified as layer 2? How is ffmpeg determining the true value? |
[08:07:02] | stuartm: | ahh, it's not mis-identifying the stream, there's just some confusion between MPEG-1 Layer 2 and MPEG-2 Part 3 |
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[08:12:18] | ** stuarta declares stuartm an expert... ** | |
[08:16:31] | stuartm: | it's a bit of a minefield, where MP3 is older and less advanced than MPEG2, where MP2 is not the same as MPEG2 |
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[08:17:29] | stuartm: | but the stream info OSD is definitely not helping matters by describing both MPEG-1 Layer 2 and MPEG-2 Part 3 as "MP2" |
[08:18:24] | stuartm: | although MPEG-2 Part 3 is just MPEG-1 with added support for multiple channels and additional bitrates |
[08:23:47] | Ben64: | so i got the updated package, doesn't seem to change the day the PS3 puts the recording into |
[08:30:41] | stuartm: | have you forced the PS3 to reload the data? |
[08:31:18] | Ben64: | tried it with a new recording tonight, still showed tomorrow |
[08:32:09] | Ben64: | i don't remember how it was on the previous version, but it does have the correct date and time when i view the information on it on the ps3, but the day is still incorrect |
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[08:36:57] | stuartm: | hmm, sounds like a PS3 issue then, we only send one date in 0.27, if it's showing that correctly in one place but still displaying 'tomorrow' then it's the PS3 which is at fault |
[08:37:58] | Ben64: | it worked fine on 12.04 (0.25.2) |
[08:38:03] | stuartm: | technically it was at fault before as well, we include the timezone with the date (per the UPnP standard), it should have no problems translating that to the local time |
[08:38:30] | Ben64: | how come the recording's filenames are in utc now? |
[08:39:49] | stuartm: | all dates and times are stored in UTC now to avoid problems when the clocks move forward or back twice a year |
[08:40:46] | stuartm: | but as of yesterdays change we still send the date in local time to the PS3 |
[08:41:38] | stuartm: | the PS3 has no idea what the filename is, it gets a URL like http://{IP}:6544/Content/GetRecording?Id=123 |
[08:42:26] | Ben64: | somehow it does though, i'll see if i can compare sometime |
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[10:33:08] | stuartm: | the season/episode eit fixup is going a bit wrong, somehow 12/22 became Season 1 Episode 2 of 22 |
[10:33:32] | stuarta: | ew. what program? and master or 0.27? |
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[10:41:26] | stuartm: | master, episodes of 'Grimm' on 'Really' |
[10:41:42] | stuartm: | I'm looking at the guide from last night |
[10:43:11] | stuartm: | they feature the Episode info at the start of the description with no season info or "Ep" |
[10:43:35] | stuartm: | not finding any other examples atm |
[10:45:17] | stuarta: | that's a regresion, it's working fine in 0.27 |
[10:47:01] | stuartm: | I must have broken it when I tweaked it last |
[10:47:16] | stuarta: | lemme pull both sets of data for you |
[10:47:41] | stuartm: | will look at it once I've finished squashing bugs in my next commit ;) |
[10:50:15] | stuarta: | http://fpaste.org/134822/41112376/ |
[10:50:41] | stuarta: | so the main difference is it's not picking the partnumber/parttotal at all |
[10:52:57] | stuarta: | neither is stripping that detail from the description |
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[11:00:00] | dekarl-work: | stuarta/stuartm, can you collect the raw EIT data somewhere? When I get to the fixup unit tests it would be nice to actually have a test set of known working/broken cases |
[11:00:30] | stuarta: | tv_grab_dvb does a decent job of giving you an xml view of the raw data |
[11:05:25] | stuartm: | stuarta: that's because they aren't parts, they are season/episode |
[11:05:53] | stuartm: | err, episode/total episodes |
[11:06:13] | stuartm: | partnumber and parttotal were for two-part episodes, or split films etc |
[11:07:33] | stuartm: | fwiw, I was thinking with the recorded file stuff we may be able to rig it so that a film split either side of the news is treated as a single recording and the two halfs played back to back |
[11:08:08] | stuartm: | although it still requires the scheduler to handle that correctly, so there would be plenty of work to be done first |
[11:08:08] | stuarta: | that might work, provided you don't use "find one showing" rules |
[11:08:55] | stuartm: | stuarta: well I'd expect to be able to use 'find one' but have the scheduler record all 'parts' |
[11:13:44] | stuarta: | that's a mission in itself |
[11:14:22] | dekarl-work: | meh, lets just use the atlas api (they allow usage of tv-anytime style content hierarchies) and then work on improving our guide feeds behind a common interface... All this NIH "my API is the best" stuff is so sick |
[11:15:23] | dekarl-work: | s/atlas/whatever api/ but please not a dozen APIs again |
[11:21:45] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: agreed, and I'm only trying to settle on xmltv because that's the one we've got existing grabbers and a solid implementation |
[11:21:58] | stuartm: | the only holdouts are SD |
[11:22:18] | stuarta: | tv_grab_atlas.... ?? |
[11:22:31] | stuartm: | stuarta: returns xmltv formatted data |
[11:34:58] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, totally agree. xmltv implements the common base from a guide consumer perspective. But MythTV has so many SDisms in its code still :/ |
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[11:35:55] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: well this is the opportunity to rip some/all of that stuff out, if it's about to stop working anyway |
[11:36:28] | stuartm: | once it's gone it's easier to deny patches which try to re-introduce it |
[11:38:20] | stuartm: | late last night I even thought I'd whip together a basic xmltv grabber for the new SD feed in the hope that having started it, people would be more likely to contribute towards it |
[11:39:30] | dekarl-work: | it sounded like robert eden already has one in his private working area |
[11:39:34] | stuartm: | as I understand it the new 'grabber' from SD writes everything directly to the database, so there's no reason to keep any of the SD code? |
[11:40:05] | dekarl-work: | well, the SDisms are in the meaning of "subtitle" etc pp, so its no easy to rip it out :) |
[11:41:03] | dekarl-work: | the "subtitle" must always refer to "episode title" comes from there, also no one really does "syndicate episode number" but this guide feed |
[11:41:20] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: right, but we can rename stuff at a later date, for now I'm thinking of stuff like the SD parser, config ui, specific settings and yes some bits of the DB which are only used by SD despite there being alternatives |
[11:41:37] | dekarl-work: | so does the list of "series, movie, sports, tvshow, special" whatever that means |
[11:42:09] | dekarl-work: | ahh, our internal special case grabber. Yes, that can go with the switch |
[11:42:23] | stuartm: | syndicateepisode number can go, the category_type can be redesigned, we want to keep the distinction between 'film' and 'not film' |
[11:43:01] | stuartm: | but 'tvshow' vs 'series' ... huh? |
[11:43:31] | ** stuarta passes the broom of code cleaning to dekarl-work ** | |
[11:44:06] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, maybe its the "they do seasons" differentiation? |
[11:44:43] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: maybe, but we can reflect that just by having 'season' == 0 |
[11:45:07] | stuartm: | not sure it serves any purpose otherwise, not meaningful to the end user |
[11:45:11] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, but that's the "specials" season on thetvdb where all films go! |
[11:45:48] | dekarl-work: | I'm still trying to convince themoviedb to come up with a better data model to associate movies and episodes from the same setting together |
[11:46:26] | dekarl-work: | but it looks like I'll have to bite the apple and work on tvbrainz as no one does :( |
[11:47:26] | dekarl-work: | everyone is buried in work because of NIH syndrome. So everyone is happy when they reach the "pictures for my downloads work" state :( |
[11:47:43] | stuarta: | we still need to do channeliconbrainz too :( |
[11:47:58] | dekarl-work: | some even get so far that their data model is more detailed then xmltv, but thats not many |
[11:48:58] | dekarl-work: | stuarta, haha NIH again... I know a many projects in that area targeting only their local market (one country, one application) and doing so behind more or less closed doors |
[11:49:36] | dekarl-work: | we also need to to "map DVB ID to guide channel ID"-brainz |
[11:50:16] | dekarl-work: | lets start with the tool to collect the full DVB-SI from a device so we can debug data issues |
[11:50:41] | stuartm: | stuarta: we need to give access to services to dekarl-work so he can see the existing channel icon service and the database of serviceids that we've built up |
[11:51:54] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: thought I came across some stuff for dumping EIT info the other day, possibly in mythutil |
[11:52:16] | stuartm: | looking at the --help output it wouldn't seem to be something that's enabled yet |
[11:52:50] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, the --pidprinter? but that doesn't help with collecting/comparing across transports EITa/EITo and so on |
[11:53:45] | dekarl-work: | I have a bunch of local patches to mythutil around, mostly in the "truncate the program database so it will be filled again after fixes to fixups" area |
[11:54:05] | dekarl-work: | still have to finish and commit them :/ |
[12:44:25] | stuarta: | stuartm: to the webui? |
[12:48:52] | stuartm: | stuarta: to the repo |
[12:49:06] | stuartm: | apparently he's still unable to access it |
[12:49:14] | stuartm: | or was, last time we discussed it |
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[12:53:00] | dekarl-work: | I think we postponed it past the server moved |
[12:53:08] | dekarl-work: | s/moved/move/ |
[12:54:17] | stuarta: | we shouldn't postpone it for that. i'm very slow at moving stuff |
[12:54:26] | stuarta: | ENOTIME |
[12:58:32] | stuarta: | dekarl-work: ideally if we implement some form of brainz "engine" then we can plugin different frontends tv, channelicons etc |
[12:58:45] | stuarta: | absolutely no idea where to start tho :( |
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[13:57:19] | stuarta: | i'm beginning to suspect this mythical engine is the subject of a startup company |
[13:59:38] | stuarta: | but then there is stuff like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflix_Prize |
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[15:42:23] | stuartm: | either something is up with my email, or with the mailing lists on alcor. I've sent two emails to -dev and neither has made it |
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[15:47:14] | stuarta: | :( |
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[16:05:10] | stichnot: | I just updated master for the first time in quite a while, and my build is broken. libmythupnp/httpserver.h doesn't compile presumably because my hand-built qt4.8.3 has QT_NO_OPENSSL defined. Is this something we want to fix, or is it better if I just suck it up and rebuild my qt? |
[16:09:03] | stuartm: | stichnot: let's see if we can fix that |
[16:09:40] | stuartm: | ssl shouldn't be required (except for packages) |
[16:10:26] | stichnot: | stuartm: ok. Do you need my build output for the errors? |
[16:11:12] | stuartm: | stichnot: probably not, I can just look for the bits where I've missed adding the ifdefs |
[16:12:16] | stuartm: | stuarta: appears to have been a problem my end, well at my hosts, they were running all outgoing email through a spam checker and it became overloaded |
[16:12:55] | stuartm: | unfortunately, I've now sent the exact same email to the server three times ... |
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[16:14:17] | stuartm: | well not exactly the same, I took the opportunity to add something more to each iteration :D |
[16:14:40] | sphery: | Repetition is the key to pounding your ideas into others' heads. ;) |
[16:15:02] | sphery: | (not that I mind--that's an idea I support) |
[16:15:48] | stuartm: | at least I'm less likely to be ignored |
[16:17:01] | stuartm: | if I hadn't been writing the first version on my phone I might have said a lot more, but perhaps that's a good thing, short and to the point |
[16:18:47] | stuarta: | doh... |
[16:19:24] | stuarta: | sphery: it's like losing all the code you've just spent hours writing. rewriting it, it's much better next time.... |
[16:20:42] | sphery: | hehe, yeah |
[16:20:48] | tgm4883: | stuartm: also, you top posted in one of them ;) |
[16:22:08] | tgm4883: | I also support the single method of data updates (XMLTV), although I suppose this means we'll need to ensure that xmltv gets built properly |
[16:22:08] | jheizer_: | ruh roh |
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[16:26:10] | dekarl-work: | lol or wtf? "when you delete channels the recording will still refer to them" => "That depends upon whether you care to make the change correctly *so that does not happen*." |
[16:26:26] | stuartm: | tgm4883: yeah, new phone, had apparently failed to configure it for bottom posting |
[16:27:19] | stuartm: | tgm4883: I would hope you were already ensuring that since it's used for everyone outside North America already :) |
[16:28:03] | dekarl-work: | stuartm, the Debian maintainer appears to be MIA :/ |
[16:28:22] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: actually, I was thinking we might start keeping the old channel data (name, icon etc, not tuning data) around in future in an 'oldchannel' table |
[16:28:40] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: ah |
[16:28:49] | dekarl-work: | that's why I wanted to collect the various forks (e.g. the packaging fork, the uk bugfix fork) |
[16:29:16] | dekarl-work: | as they are all using git for their forks and xmltv is still on cvs I thought "when if not now" ;) |
[16:29:52] | stichnot: | stuartm: The problem is that classes HttpServer and HttpWorker declare fields involving types QSslConfiguration, QSslKey, and QSslCertificate, which are forward-declared but not defined when QT_NO_OPENSSL is defined. Also, ctors for HttpServer and HttpWorker take arguments of these types. I tried typedef'ing them to void*, just to see, but that causes conflicts elsewhere. |
[16:30:03] | dekarl-work: | I could not reach agreement on using git the last time though... got all kinds of "but i have installed CVS just for you" and "but subversion is the future" replies |
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