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| [00:19:20] | dblain: | stuartm: just found a upnp document that deals with IPv6. I haven't read through it yet, but thought you would be interested too. http://upnp.org/specs/arch/UPnP-arch-DeviceAr . . . 1-AnnexA.pdf |
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| [12:49:46] | stuartm: | stuarta: if I stop announcing the localhost address then upnp-inspector connects to the external IP just fine but beyond like the device and service descriptions it no longer functions, just get errors to stderr |
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| [12:56:05] | stuartm: | nevermind, now it's decided to start working |
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| [15:37:17] | dekarl: | stuarta: I'm leaving #12087 to you. The new patch is still likely wrong but as stu artm hinted some more information about the two programs in question would be nice. (wrong as in, the description will differ by white space) |
| [15:37:17] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12087 ** | |
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| [16:12:34] | dekarl: | hmm, the situation with schedules direct might give some incentive to upgrade from older versions to 0.27, maybe we should somehow prepare for that? e.g. with a wiki page. need to think about that |
| [16:26:21] | stuartm: | think we should start warning when we receive programids for channels which have no default_authority? |
| [16:33:27] | dekarl: | umm, who will maintain the whitelist? |
| [16:33:58] | dekarl: | The local Liberty Global provider doesn'T do default_authority because... Oh look a plane! |
| [16:35:06] | dekarl: | does Virgin do default_authority in the UK? (looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Global#Markets and wondering if the programids are equally useless) |
| [16:38:02] | dekarl: | We could warn if we get CRIDs without authority on a channel without default_authority. But we'd have to throttle the warnings somehow. |
| [16:40:21] | stuartm: | dekarl: virgin is all encrypted |
| [16:40:25] | dekarl: | we could warn on DVB channels without ONID/TSID |
| [16:40:29] | stuartm: | same as Sky |
| [16:41:06] | dekarl: | stuartm, umm, DRM style HD+ / CI+ crap, or good old DVB-CI that we support? |
| [16:47:15] | stuartm: | completely off-limits |
| [16:48:00] | dekarl: | ahh, the xmltv lists say its of the analogue hole kind http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.devel/7467 |
| [16:48:29] | stuartm: | breaking terms of service to even connect the cable to anything except their STBs, no CAMs, complete encryption |
| [16:49:21] | dekarl: | I wonder how long until that is fixed by law, similar to dsl routers |
| [16:49:27] | stuartm: | HDCP too |
| [16:49:37] | stuartm: | no analogue outputs on the current gen STBs |
| [16:50:15] | dekarl: | sounds like it doesn't matter what they do, because its not going to be relevant to MythTV then |
| [16:51:14] | stuartm: | they regularly persue civil prosecution for 'theft' of cable (modded boxes) |
| [16:51:33] | stuartm: | dekarl: exactly :) |
| [16:52:17] | stuartm: | I have virgin cable, although mostly because it comes as a package with my cable modem |
| [16:55:51] | dekarl: | man, why is the open source guide community in the UK only one man. so many nice things going on http://metabroadcast.com/blog/atlas-release-n . . . ptember-16th mentions "(Atlas) Equivalence mapping of actual start/end timestamps to existing data sources." |
| [16:56:40] | stuartm: | paying for cable/satellite in the UK is a mugs game, very little new content, even less actually worth paying for, unless you're a football fan |
| [16:58:10] | dekarl: | old school paytv is the same over here (cable/satelitte doesn't matter, its the same provider) |
| [16:58:44] | stuartm: | curiously those people paying hundreds a year for a subscription for complete crap are often the same people who complain about having to pay less than £10 a month for the BBC (who produce the best quality content) |
| [16:59:12] | dekarl: | the cable companies (not to be confused with the tv content provider) are catching up by hiding HD behind paywalls |
| [17:00:06] | stuartm: | half the material on pay TV are repeats of old BBC material which they've sold off to other broadcasters, the irony is that without the BBC there would be even less to watch on Satellite/Cable |
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| [17:00:25] | dekarl: | lol, my edits to the MythTV article on the german wikipedia are approved... but this one, too https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My . . . id=133779863 |
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| [17:00:46] | stuartm: | time travel! |
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| [17:04:56] | dekarl: | and someone really should start to collect information like "do Freeview services get properly marked as present but not running" when they are off-air... re #12087 |
| [17:04:56] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12087 ** | |
| [17:06:41] | stuartm: | 0.27.3 was released on the 4th July |
| [17:07:56] | dekarl: | ty |
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| [18:54:25] | stuartm: | stuarta: latest master working any better? |
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| [20:12:41] | stuarta: | stuartm: no idea. i'll build it now |
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| [20:39:47] | stuarta: | stuartm: i need to review some more. i think it's a bug in upnp-inspector. other stuff seems to find it just fine |
| [20:42:59] | stuarta: | and for a bonus, i think there's bugs in magpie too |
| [20:46:26] | stuartm: | my experience has been that there are bugs and compliance issues in just about every implementation |
| [20:46:51] | stuarta: | excellent |
| [20:47:12] | stuartm: | or at least those where they aren't paying the $15,000 a year for access to the compliance testing suite |
| [20:50:54] | stuartm: | of the various android apps I tested, most barely scratch the surface of UPnP, implementing the bare minimum of features and lacking support for most metadata |
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| [20:51:42] | stuartm: | but then the servers I looked at are no better, so I guess if you're writing a client what's the point of supporting it all when the servers don't use it? |
| [20:51:54] | stuartm: | it's kinda sad |
| [20:55:58] | stuarta: | trying to work out how to filter out the link local addresses too |
| [21:02:23] | stuartm: | just check if the scopeid is empty or not? |
| [21:02:56] | stuarta: | i'm not sure what the scopeid returns for the different types of addresses. time for a test program |
| [21:11:52] | stuarta: | ah, that's convenient, we've defined kLinkLocal6 in serverpool.cpp |
| [21:26:56] | stuarta: | stuartm: getting a bunch of "QAbstractSocket::waitForBytesWritten() is not allowed in UnconnectedState" coming up every now and again |
| [21:27:43] | stuarta: | no idea where that comes from yet |
| [21:28:07] | stuartm: | happens when the client closes the connection while the backend is in the middle of writing to it |
| [21:28:50] | stuarta: | ah |
| [21:31:39] | stuarta: | interesting. got magpie to work by not sending out the link local address at all, it's then connecting to the backend over ipv6 and getting proper information |
| [21:32:48] | stuarta: | but is it the correct fix? |
| [21:35:45] | stuarta: | stuartm: i'll leave you to think about the "fix" and if it's correct http://fpaste.org/134396/98971214/ |
| [21:35:51] | stuarta: | i'm off to bed |
| [21:36:40] | stuartm: | pushed something which may eliminate, or at least reduce the frequency of those QAbstractSocket warnings |
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