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| [08:41:29] | stuarta: | jya stuartm MythBackendID rather than MythDeviceID ??? |
| [08:42:02] | jya: | that’s right… so we can differentiate between backend and frontend… likely to be the same , but doesn’t have to be |
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| [08:42:18] | jya: | (like multiple frontend on the same machine) |
| [08:42:59] | ** stuarta wonders if he is the only one with multiple backends on the same machine ** | |
| [08:43:28] | jya: | or multiple backend on the same machine ! |
| [08:43:34] | stuarta: | i have that :) |
| [08:43:37] | jya: | without having to go through hoops |
| [08:43:41] | jya: | (like now) |
| [08:44:23] | stuarta: | the only real hoops are 1) define a different backend port number 2) set MYTHCONFDIR so the config's for the instances don't overlap |
| [08:47:09] | stuartm: | stuarta: do you have to define two hostnames for the system? Right now there is code that treats 'hostname' as something that can be resolved into an IP |
| [08:47:24] | stuarta: | the ip is the same in both instances |
| [08:47:27] | stuartm: | which won't work if that isn't actually the case |
| [08:48:00] | stuarta: | backend:6544 (prod), backend:7544 (master) |
| [08:48:13] | stuarta: | master = master branch, aka dev instance |
| [08:48:23] | stuartm: | stuarta: right, but the hostnames aren't the same? |
| [08:48:27] | stuarta: | yes they are |
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| [08:48:36] | stuarta: | but they have to completely separate databases |
| [08:48:41] | stuarta: | two |
| [08:48:53] | stuartm: | oh, well I guess that's one way around the issue ;) |
| [08:49:16] | stuarta: | far too much other stuff would conflict |
| [08:49:38] | stuartm: | and necessary if you have two backends of different versions, as opposed to what we're talking about which is two frontends/backends of the same version |
| [08:50:28] | stuarta: | aye |
| [08:51:31] | stuarta: | well does anybody run multiple backends of the same version at the same time? |
| [08:51:42] | stuarta: | we don't support that do we? |
| [08:52:06] | stuartm: | no and they aren't likely to, there's no point |
| [08:52:23] | stuarta: | i can see that leading towards the concept of a recorderless MBE, with the recorders being spun up as separate backends |
| [08:52:28] | stuartm: | but two frontends of the same version is likely |
| [08:52:33] | stuarta: | yes |
| [08:52:43] | stuarta: | you just need an "InstanceID" |
| [08:52:53] | stuarta: | same as X |
| [08:52:57] | stuarta: | :1 :2 :3 etc |
| [08:53:20] | stuartm: | stuarta: we're going with the 'DeviceID' instead |
| [08:53:37] | stuartm: | although we may still change the term |
| [08:54:20] | stuartm: | basically no different from the existing 'hostname' but re-branded and with no expectation that it matches the hostname of the machine it's running on |
| [08:54:40] | stuarta: | fair enuf |
| [08:55:38] | stuarta: | and really the expectation was never there, because you could already set a custom frontend identifier |
| [08:55:39] | stuartm: | you could have several different 'DeviceID's running off the same machine, although we would need to alter the ports for each |
| [08:56:06] | stuartm: | stuarta: there are bits of the code that treat it as though it was the machine's hostname |
| [08:56:15] | stuarta: | inconsistency-- |
| [08:56:50] | stuartm: | so that's what we're looking to fix and prevent recurring |
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| [10:47:04] | jya: | stuartm: would you have an annex B h264 sample by any chance ? |
| [10:48:01] | stuartm: | not to my knowledge |
| [10:48:33] | jya: | no worries |
| [10:48:41] | jya: | isn’t BBC HD annex B? |
| [10:49:23] | stuarta: | how would we tell? i've various bbc hd recordings |
| [10:49:54] | jya: | the “easiest†|
| [10:50:14] | jya: | would be to check the content of the AVCodecContext in the decoder |
| [10:50:22] | jya: | and check if avctx->extradata |
| [10:50:34] | stuartm: | jya: I thought ISO based formats didn't use Annex B? Maybe they do though, but that's the assumption I've always made |
| [10:50:38] | stuarta: | i was hoping i could get it from ffmpeg |
| [10:50:45] | jya: | extradata[0] == 0 && extradata[1] == 0 && extradata[2] == 0 && extradata[3] == 1 |
| [10:51:13] | stuartm: | I've got to run, back in half an hour |
| [10:52:05] | jya: | I have the strong suspicion that the html5 h264 video player will crap out on annex B content… (even though tI’ve been told the opposite :) ) |
| [10:52:16] | jya: | (that’s in firefox) |
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| [11:15:10] | jya: | re-implementing the VDA decoder for firefox, I was looking at ours… there’s a leak there |
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| [17:01:30] | MythBuild: | build #548 of master-f20-qt5–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/548 |
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| [17:39:30] | knuth: | Hi guys |
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| [19:06:33] | stuartm: | dblain: MythTV might just be the first linux application to support MediaServer > 1, (I'm moving to v4) |
| [19:07:42] | stuartm: | I was looking for something to compare the output of GetFeatureList() against and every application I've found on both linux and android is stuck at the 2002 version of the standard |
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| [20:04:14] | dblain: | stuartm: Nothing wrong with being the first! :) (although I'm surprised since the spec has been around for so long). |
| [20:07:56] | dblain: | stuartm: re:myth:// urls... it's a shame that you decided to use the "deviceid" instead of a resolvable hostname/ip. I had envisioned 3rd party support to stream using that url. (upnp used to return it as a resource). Granted, that was before the team was willing to support http, rtsp, etc streaming of content. Also, having a URI formatted string that changed the meaning of the "host" |
| [20:07:56] | dblain: | portion will definitely confuse future developers. |
| [20:09:05] | stuartm: | I didn't decide, it was decided years ago when they were first introduced, and altering that involves more work |
| [20:09:15] | stuartm: | CDS v2 was 2006, MediaServer v2 in 2008, so yes it's very strange that so many are stuck on such an old version |
| [20:10:36] | stuartm: | and not only that, but even relatively new software is using the 2002 spec, even though the 2013 spec is backwards compatible |
| [20:24:04] | dblain: | stuartm: I guess everyone is too lazy to implement all the features of v4? ... eveyone except YOU that is :D. In all seriousness, if you need help with upnp, let me know. Although it's not my primary focus for the past few years, it would be nice to be a solid option for thin clients. |
| [20:26:25] | stuartm: | I'm only working to implement the required features plus a couple I think would be nice to have, one in particular, container shortcuts, is effectively the official version of the MS stuff that we've got hack for in the code, where you tell the server that a particular container should be treated as Recordings, or Music Albums etc |
| [20:27:16] | stuartm: | I'm hoping that MS devices will use it so we can remove those hacks for good ... but knowing microsoft I'm bound to be disappointed |
| [20:28:42] | dblain: | stuartm: Didn't even know about the container shortcuts... removing the hacks permanently would be a good thing. I've always thought it would be cool to support uploading media into the cds. |
| [20:35:22] | stuartm: | uploads would be a nice long term goal, higher on my list is stuff like container updates and adding a ScheduledRecording service (a lot of the necessary stuff is already there in the services API) |
| [20:38:40] | stuartm: | even those will have to wait until I'm happy with the WebFrontend, there are a few things to sort out with upnp such as sorting/searching, then I'm switching back to working on that |
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| [21:15:43] | dekarl: | dblain: getting to a point where we can stream to the frontend via UPNP would be nice. setenv MYTHTV_UPNPSCANNER=yesplease ;) |
| [21:17:00] | dekarl: | with the improved upnp in the backend a DLNA app could direct streams from the backend to the frontend as a kind of a mythical remote |
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| [23:33:33] | rkulagow: | hey all |
| [23:33:48] | rkulagow: | i've been grepping through the source but not finding what i'm looking for. |
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| [23:35:11] | rkulagow: | how does mythtv handle multiple stations all sharing the same channel number? for example, in a particular videosource, for 12 hours of the day channel 36 may have station 12345 and for the other 12 it's 67890. when the channel table is being populated, they both can't be channel "1036". |
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