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| [09:01:57] | dekarl: | stuartm, shouldn't the test be "isseries => set series, else ismovie => set movie" when you have strong indicators for series and weak, but better then nothing, indicators for movies? |
| [09:03:08] | dekarl: | looks like we really need test data with manual mapping to the expected result. Otherwise we're going to break something more often then not |
| [09:03:26] | dekarl: | all these fixups are very mythical :) |
| [09:10:26] | stuartm: | dekarl: yeah I was thinking of making that change last night |
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| [12:45:40] | ** stuarta re-arranges storage for build vm's ** | |
| [12:46:35] | stuarta: | raid 0 aka striping is the way forward. we want performance dammit, we don't care about redundancy |
| [13:04:26] | stuarta: | MythBuild: force build master-ubuntu-current-64bit speed test |
| [13:04:27] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 24m34s] |
| [13:04:27] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [13:12:56] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-ubuntu-current-64bit #1987 is complete: Success [3build successful] |
| [13:12:56] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1987 ** | |
| [13:12:56] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1987 |
| [13:15:35] | stuarta: | much better |
| [13:51:06] | stuartm: | that's a ridiculous improvement |
| [13:51:49] | stuartm: | didn't realise compilation speed could be affected so much by I/O |
| [13:52:57] | stuarta: | yeah massively. it's significantly io bound. especially when I have 5 builders contending for io |
| [13:54:11] | stuarta: | cpu i have plenty to spare. if i allocated 2G memory to the vm's and spun up too many, i hit swap, adding further io load |
| [13:54:11] | stuarta: | so the vm's have been reduced to 1.5Gb memory |
| [13:54:11] | stuarta: | host has 16Gb, so more fit |
| [13:54:23] | stuarta: | performance tuning. fun isn't it ;-) |
| [13:54:47] | stuartm: | when it yields results like that it is |
| [13:55:10] | stuarta: | yeah, i'm now converting all the /home's to striped |
| [13:55:26] | stuarta: | then i'll do the rest of the OS |
| [13:56:05] | stuartm: | not so much fun when you're down to tweaking for hours to realise a negligible improvement |
| [13:56:11] | stuarta: | the inverse of that is, forum runs with mirrored LV's, so each write io turns into 2 writes |
| [13:57:11] | stuarta: | but reads may be satisfied from either physical disk |
| [13:57:20] | stuarta: | so read++ wrte-- |
| [13:58:13] | stuartm: | compiles involve a lot more writes than the forum, although little things like updating the last visit timestamp on a user's account might add up with sufficient traffic |
| [14:26:18] | stuarta: | it'll be interesting to see what the performance is like once i've converted all the vm's and we have a full set of builds in progress |
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| [14:36:23] | stuarta: | intereseting http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/zotac-jetson-tk1-developer-kit-a30ny |
| [14:38:55] | stuarta: | arm + nvidia tesla |
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| [15:11:29] | stuartm: | am I mad to want at least a case for that price? |
| [15:11:40] | stuarta: | hehe |
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| [15:36:20] | stuartm: | I do think my expectations are high in general, some of that SFF looks great but costs twice what I think it should |
| [15:38:10] | stuarta: | that board is for tinkerers and engineering students |
| [15:39:46] | stuarta: | 8 LV's moved, 10 to go |
| [15:40:38] | stuarta: | 9/9 |
| [15:45:18] | stuartm: | stuarta: aye, the "Developer kit" bit gave it away :) |
| [15:54:34] | stuarta: | :) |
| [16:04:52] | stuarta: | so a whole bunch of machines moved. finally hit my first issue. probably caused by my impatients and shutting it down early |
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| [16:06:33] | stuarta: | er impatience |
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| [17:33:03] | stuartm: | has anyone got spare change to purchase a DLNA membership? It's only $10,000 |
| [17:34:15] | dekarl: | is that a one time fee or a recurring fee? |
| [17:37:15] | stuartm: | per year, but we wouldn't need longer than that to get the upnp stuff completely compliant, it's only access to their testing tools that we'd be paying for |
| [17:37:20] | stuartm: | ;) |
| [17:38:27] | stuartm: | there's an amazing lack of upnp compliance test suites, none at all for linux, and dlna testing is currently only offered by DLNA themselves |
| [17:38:44] | dekarl: | well, aren't there DLNA interoperability "parties"? |
| [17:39:02] | dekarl: | where vendors meet to test if they actually are compatible? |
| [17:39:16] | stuartm: | now that they've opened the spec that might change, but it will be some time before any open source tools are worth looking at |
| [17:39:41] | stuartm: | dekarl: heh |
| [17:41:30] | stuartm: | I love the idea of reps from companies such as Microsoft, Google, Sony et al turning up at a conference centre with boxes of their kit for a big lan party |
| [17:42:13] | stuartm: | cries of "Oi! Who just hacked my TV? I'm looking at you Microsoft!" |
| [17:44:13] | stuartm: | the DLNA test tools are basically just bits of software which interrogate the device, walk the content trees etc and look for stuff which is incorrectly formatted, missing or present when it shouldn't be |
| [17:45:02] | stuartm: | http://www.dlna.org/dlna-for-industry/certification/test-tools |
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| [18:29:42] | stuartm: | upnp changes are in, will probably be making another pass to reduce code duplication and get various features working (searching, sorting) |
| [18:31:09] | stuartm: | feedback would be much appreciated with whatever upnp devices you might have available, to get the most from the changes a device or software supporting all the artwork and additional metadata is recommended |
| [18:32:00] | stuartm: | best I've found for android is BubbleUPnP but even that ignores a bunch of metadata for videos and recordings – it's great for music though |
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| [18:37:09] | dekarl: | oh noes does "we cap the maximum recording length to 6 hours" mean no recording of Bergensbanen? http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/ says its 7 hours and can be downloaded in raw quality (better then broadcast) at just 246GB ;) |
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| [18:42:59] | dekarl: | not sure what the maximum event time for EIT is, looks like 99:59:59 (hh:mm:ss) |
| [18:44:41] | dekarl: | otoh, we had to draw a line somewhere and the DLNA changes should not change that line in a hurry |
| [18:44:55] | dekarl: | its just that 6 hours sounded a bit short |
| [18:45:59] | stuartm: | seemed very long when we settled on it |
| [18:52:02] | dekarl: | from a quick look at it nothing stood out |
| [18:53:33] | dekarl: | the "no schema changes in fixes" makes me want to "just ship" 0.28 sooner rather then later |
| [19:00:49] | stuartm: | my attention will soon be returning to the WebFrontend and once I'm happy that it at least matches mythweb for features I'll be happier to let the release go ahead |
| [19:01:15] | stuartm: | there's a lot I really wanted to see done in 0.28 but there's just never enough time |
| [19:02:51] | stuartm: | had thought we'd have enough new features, lots of fixes for the little things and a new theme – at which point we'd call the release 1.0 and surprise everyone |
| [19:04:00] | stuartm: | but it just wouldn't send out the right message to ship a 1.0 which still has lots of stuff unfinished |
| [19:09:28] | dekarl: | aye, e.g. the DLNA part in mythfrontend would be a nice companion to your work on the DLNA part in mythbackend for a 1.0 |
| [19:19:07] | stuartm: | the nice thing is that there are overlaps between the web frontend and upnp, aside from the fact that both use bits of the services API the latest DLNA spec adds DASH to the list of protocols which can be used to serve content to devices |
| [19:20:22] | stuartm: | so if jya does manage to find any time to help with the implementation of on-demand segment transcoding we'd kill two birds with one stone |
| [19:22:14] | stuartm: | we'd be able to stream recordings (music and video) to any DLNA device and any web browser |
| [19:26:03] | stuartm: | dekarl: you mentioned a schema change, are you about to commit something? |
| [19:43:47] | dekarl: | stuartm I'd love to push the "inetref from the guide" into fixes, but its been in master for some time |
| [19:45:04] | dekarl: | then talk a schedules user into adding plumbing to get their tvdb inetref into mythtv, too. |
| [19:45:56] | dekarl: | oh, and the inetrefs are coming, to http://xmltv.se/, too (thanks to jny len) |
| [19:52:03] | stuartm: | ah ok, checking because I'm working on a schema change right now and didn't want to cause you a problem by pushing first |
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| [20:36:23] | paul-h: | Any idea's where this dialog is coming from? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=345#p1560 |
| [20:39:29] | stuartm: | never seen anything like it before |
| [20:40:50] | stuartm: | does that resemble any theme you've ever seen? Could be related to the notification API, in particular the iDevice related stuff that jya worked on |
| [20:41:02] | jheizer_: | Is there even a theme like that? |
| [20:41:11] | ** jheizer_ was too slow ** | |
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| [20:41:39] | stuartm: | jheizer: there may well be I'm not up to speed on the themes |
| [20:42:16] | jheizer: | yeah me either |
| [20:42:31] | stuartm: | the dialog popping up during video could only be the notifications API, and the only thing I can image which uses the API like that would be a mobile device? |
| [20:43:38] | paul-h: | Don't think the notifications show any buttons |
| [20:43:50] | jheizer: | oh you know the themes check on start up |
| [20:44:08] | jheizer: | but some times they are a bit slow to notify and look kind of like that |
| [20:44:57] | stuartm: | is the user sure that it's not in the video itself? If they are using HDMI or analogue capture it could be coming from the STB? |
| [20:45:14] | jheizer: | HAhahahaha, that would be hilarious. |
| [20:46:34] | paul-h: | That could it :) |
| [20:47:41] | jheizer: | Nevermind on my guess. It doesn't match the ThemeUpdateChecker::checkForUpdate message. |
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| [21:01:23] | Steve-Goodey: | http://forums.directv.com/thread/11055238 |
| [21:02:09] | stuartm: | I win |
| [21:02:45] | stuartm: | well not quite, TV, not STB |
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| [22:18:35] | ** dblain is updating his resume and all of a sudden can't remember all the lanuagues/skills he knows :(... must be getting old! ** | |
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| [22:38:17] | jnylen: | dblain: it's like "Didn't I know this language?" |
| [22:38:26] | jnylen: | and add some weird language, called TCL. |
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| [23:27:54] | dblain: | jnylen: exactly! I've been second guessing every acronym I've used, even though I've been in this profession for over 20 years and use most of them on a daily basis. |
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