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[00:05:28] jya: stuarta: yes.. I’ve noticed that, but it appears to only doing so on fedora build
[00:06:03] jya: I’ve been given a patch to fix that.. appears to be a problem in the configure
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[08:09:49] stuarta: jya: hmmm, yes i see that now. admitedly, fedora is the only platform with qt5 buildslaves
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[10:14:29] stuartm: knightr: you did tell me at one time which translation plugin I was supposed to install for the wiki, but I can't find it in my notes, would you mind reminding me?
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[20:09:39] N0DEsafe: Has anyone got their HDHR Prime working with mythtv here?
[20:10:03] ** stuarta points to the topic **
[20:10:21] N0DEsafe: Yes, sorry..
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[20:18:35] stuartm: stuarta: re https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/6a3c747  – I'm surprised that went overlooked for so long, an audit of the fixups for other networks might be in order since little things like appropriately populating category_type can result in an improved user experience
[20:19:38] stuarta: that might explain some things
[20:19:40] stuartm: I've already keyed a number of things off category_type from the language used when creating recording rules (series rules refer to episodes, movie rules do not), to icons denoting movies in the Webfrontend guide
[20:21:42] stuartm: for 'movies' the airdate is interpreted as the year of production and shown as such, for 'series' it's treated as the original air date instead
[20:21:59] stuarta: thanks for finding it
[20:23:48] stuartm: noticed there was a problem when the description for an upcoming film contained "(Repeat Mon 1 January 2007)"
[20:24:57] stuartm: which was obviously wrong since films don't have original air dates
[20:25:08] stuarta: indeed
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[20:25:30] stuarta: it's one of those issues that's blindingly obvious once you see it
[20:25:35] stuarta: but hard to see otherwise
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[20:26:07] ** stuarta paints stripes on dekarl-Zoo and calls him a zebra **
[20:26:19] dekarl-too: Hehe
[20:27:20] dekarl-too: Why do You Set category_type Movie for eit drama/Movie? I just removed that from generis eit Code
[20:27:43] ** stuarta points at stuartm **
[20:28:32] dekarl-too: Over Heer they use Drama/Movie in the Sense of "scripted". Basically applying it. to Most Series Thuns making the upcoming Movie search useless
[20:28:58] dekarl-too: <3 Auto correction
[20:31:35] dekarl-too: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/9c6fe . . . ecd982e77739
[20:33:00] stuartm: dekarl-too: we don't
[20:33:29] stuartm: .startsWith("movie") || .startsWith("film")
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[20:34:22] stuartm: dekarl-too: that would explain why no-one noticed before (recent regression)
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[20:34:57] stuartm: well, 20 months ago
[20:35:16] stuartm: dekarl-too: mythtv depends on the category_type for a lot of little things
[20:35:24] dekarl-too: I just Committee it. Lately After Haine it. roundtable for some Time
[20:35:38] stuartm: rofl
[20:36:13] dekarl-too: Looks like this Devise is Not a native speaker either
[20:37:30] stuartm: it's almost as hilarious as Google Translate
[20:39:45] dekarl-too: so the question is, do uk broadcasters slap the "movie/drama" genre on series, too?
[20:40:46] dekarl-too: need to come up with a business opportunity to make it authentic... or a fortune that wants to be rescued from being taken away
[20:45:20] stuartm: :D
[20:46:43] stuartm: dekarl-too: I don't know for certain, however we have other ways of identifying what constitutes a series through the presence of episode information, subtitle etc
[20:48:46] stuartm: I need to take another look at the EIT data, I'd be surprised if there isn't a flag somewhere, even if it's in a broadcaster specific extension or private data to designate films – the Freeview/Freesat DVRs wouldn't work so well without knowing the difference between a one-off and a series
[20:49:01] dekarl-too: nice, over here we don't get to many episode title ( note to self, rename every mention of subtitle)
[20:52:32] dekarl-too: i see a mix of produced / premiered / original airdate in my movie data, depending on the data source
[20:52:44] stuartm: not that every single channel gets perfect data, noticed that old repeats of NCIS on CBS Action are currently showing completely generic descriptions and a category of "Music/Dance/Ballet"
[20:54:31] stuartm: they were all given unique programids though, so at least they got that much correct
[20:55:32] dekarl-too: really? after fixing programid handling for my broadcaster and using it ... it added a fixup to ignore them :D
[20:55:50] dekarl-too: s/it/I/
[20:56:50] stuartm: I only use EIT on a few 'fringe' channels, so I can't say how accurate it is, but I've never had a problem
[20:57:17] stuartm: both freeview and freesat DVRs use that data, so I'd expect it to be reliable
[21:00:24] dekarl: Sounds like you have higher data quality then over here. We could use more test coverage around EIT :)
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[22:39:35] stuartm: dekarl: in addition to unit tests we could really use some 'real world' tests, regular testing against real world data – videos, data feeds and databases
[22:41:43] stuartm: e.g. I'm trying to find issues in the new upnp stuff I've been working on, but I can only work with what recordings, music and video I've got which probably only scrapes the surface
[22:44:12] stuartm: ideally we'd build up a mythconverg database with data from many different sources to build tests against
[22:44:51] stuartm: a lot of work though and I'm not even sure exactly how it would work :/
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