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Saturday, August 23rd, 2014, 00:47 UTC
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[01:26:51] gary_buhrmaster: jya: Re: the Qt5 build failures. I will not claim this is the "right" patch to configure, but it seems to work http://pastebin.com/EkyN0S1v
[01:27:17] gary_buhrmaster: jya: Untested with Qt4 builders. Note, it also seems to result in hdhomerun getting all its correct CC flags, so you may be able to revert that previous fix...
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[11:17:34] stuartm: for compliance with some upnp devices we need to include the dc:creator for searches, this is an extremely vaguely defined property that is practically impossible to populate accurately especially with limited metadata so should we include it, but leave it empty or decide on exactly what should use? http://dublincore.org/documents/2012/06/14/dc . . . ents#creator
[11:18:07] stuartm: for music the artist seems logical, but what about recordings?
[11:18:35] stuartm: and videos – should that be the director, producer, studio?
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[11:31:29] ** stuartm decides it's a stupid requirement and pushes it to the bottom of the todo list **
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[12:33:20] dekarl: isn't the creator of the ressource MythTV if its a recording?
[12:34:45] dekarl: "Examples of a Creator include ... a service."
[12:35:16] dekarl: just file it under creative interpretation of standards to achieve compliance ;)
[12:45:10] stuartm: heh, yeah could just go with that, the alternative I was considering for recordings was the channel name
[12:45:35] stuartm: it's only required for searching, and currently we don't even support searches
[12:45:46] stuartm: but I'm hoping to change that
[12:48:53] stuartm: hopefully I'll be ready to push the first stage of these changes to master by tomorrow/Monday, considering the potential for breakage it really should go to a public branch first but it's very difficult to get people to test branches
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[15:58:01] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Pretty sure that can be simplified to "Its pretty hard to get people to test" (branch, or no branch).
[15:59:39] stuartm: well at least if it goes straight into master people will end up running the code whether they want to or not, so if it does break stuff I'll know about it faster :)
[16:03:54] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: btw, if I mischaracterized the plans for MythWeb in #11624 something should correct the ticket (and slap me down)
[16:03:54] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11624 **
[16:04:15] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: s/something/someone/
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[16:06:24] stuartm: gary_buhrmaster: seems broadly accurate, and kormoc's decision to close outstanding mythweb tickets seems to suggest that he has no plans to keep mythweb alive
[16:07:25] stuartm: I know stuarta has expressed an interest in doing so, but whether he'll find the time ...
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[17:26:53] stuartm: is recording artwork always stored on the master backend, or could it be on a slave?
[17:27:03] stuartm: wagnerrp: ^^
[17:29:08] wagnerrp: considering the table has a 'host' field, i'm guessing it's stored on whatever backend "owns" the recording
[17:29:20] wagnerrp: that's the way the video library functions
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[17:36:08] kormoc: gary_buhrmaster, Nah, that's really accurate. Thanks for that
[17:37:07] kormoc: I haven't been maintaining it for years now, it needs a ton of help, but it's better to put those resources in the new way rather then dwelling on the old
[18:03:44] stuartm: wagnerrp: ok thanks
[18:04:54] stuartm: that makes things interesting for the services API, currently in the UPnP code we lookup artwork on the same backend as the recording, but I wasn't sure if that was correct since I only have a single backend to test with
[18:16:51] stuartm: think I'll have to add remote file support to the services API to keep things simple
[18:17:54] stuartm: simpler for third parties especially for all connections to go through the master, then you only need to expose one machine to the outside world
[18:21:16] stuartm: or maybe proxying would be more useful, then you can interate with frontends through the master
[18:21:22] stuartm: interact
[18:25:30] kormoc: Proxying commands seems like the better solution. Clients don't need to understand the servers layout
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[21:34:09] stuartm: kormoc: yeah
[21:35:08] stuartm: we do have methods in the API to return a list of online slaves/frontends and their ip / port info
[21:37:15] stuartm: but having everything optionally go through the master is safer if you want to allow access from outside the local network, and people will do that for their phone apps etc
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