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Wednesday, August 13th, 2014, 00:20 UTC

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enyc:

jya: ooooooooh interesting! so makes some sense why it may have been disabled

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enyc:

jya: though, there seems to be a difference between compliing mythtv on arm with opengl and mythtv on arm with opengl *and* opengl-es-2.0 detected ...

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jya:

enyc: you canâ€™t have both.. itâ€™s one or the other

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enyc:

jya: right, which is what i was expecting, but the ./configure outtput appears to be ablou te o 'detect' opengl on arm but not see 'opengl ES 2.0'

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jya:

enyc: for opengl support you must use the opengl as used by Qt

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enyc:

jya: how do I know if I've got the right version in there etc.? does the mythbuntu packages ' build-dependencies do that right?

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jya:

the configure will tell you

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enyc:

jya: hrrrrrrrm my builds are runninng... oneof my ARM configures will tell me in a bit... in i386 I see:-

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enyc:

qmake /usr/bin/qmake-qt4

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enyc:

x11 support yes

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enyc:

OpenGL video yes

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enyc:

OpenGL ES 2.0 no

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jya:

well, there you go

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jya:

your qt was built with opengl (not es)

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enyc:

but on arm its' different the latter (can) say yes with the right headers installed

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enyc:

but I believe I've had it saying yes to the OpenGL and no to the OpenGL ES 2.0 on arm

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jya:

enyc: cross-compilation isnâ€™t somethign that works very well if you want to build on i386 but compile for arm

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jya:

commits are welcomed !

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jya:

if you want to build on an arm, your best option is going to use dist-cc

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enyc:

jya: i'm not cross-compiling... I'm using complete arm chroot with the right patched qemu etc.

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enyc:

jya: well, at least, I'm not using the mythtv soucre codes' cross-compile-functionality =)

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jya:

last time I had to recompile Qt 5

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jya:

there was a patch in order to make it work using a single GL surface

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jya:

instead of crashing

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jya:

actually

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jya:

now that I remember

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jya:

thereâ€™s a branch with my ongoing progress for arm

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enyc:

jya: branch of ... ?? qt?? mythtv ??

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jya:

devel/rpi

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jya:

mythtv

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jya:

its old

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jya:

need to upgrade it

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jya:

but it had new code to allow building on the pi

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jya:

what platform do you want to build on?

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jya:

and does your platform supports OpenGL via X?

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jya:

the issue with the Pi is that it doesn't

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enyc:

Mostly, wheezy – (various)

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enyc:

thigs like hummingboard or banana-pi on wheezy-armhf or trusty-armhf would be good

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enyc:

wheezy-rpi would be nice but not having high expectations ;p

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jya:

that doesnâ€™t tell me anything about the platform youâ€™re running on

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jya:

donâ€™t care about the distribution really

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enyc:

soryr I thought I said "things like hummingboard or banana-pi" ... rpi would be nice but not having high expectations ;p

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jya:

in the devel/rpi I added a â€”enable-eglfs which is what you need to run myth outside of X on linux

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enyc:

I wonder what raspbmc do

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jya:

then you start myth as follow:

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jya:

they work in a single OpenGL ES surface, outside of X

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jya:

you donâ€™t need X to run

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** jya searching **

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jya:

itâ€™s an argument to provide to the application

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jya:

that Qt QMain will intercept

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jya:

you had to use the EGL Qt plugin (http://www.khronos.org/egl)

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jya:

I think you had to call mythfrontend with -platform egl

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jya:

or something like that

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jya:

canâ€™t remember sorry

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enyc:

ok, it looks like wheezy libqt4 is compiled with X11

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jya:

you canâ€™t use qt4 anyway

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enyc:

their open gll lib links to libX11.so.6 etc.

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jya:

you need qt5 to make any progress

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enyc:

where is this documented dependencies between wythtv qt5 x11 ?

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jya:

unless thereâ€™s been significant change in the past year, there was no opengl support in X on the rpi

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enyc:

nodsnods

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jya:

the issue isnâ€™t qt5 vs x11

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enyc:

but hummingboard, banana pi, that have proper graphics driver etc.?

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jya:

is just that in qt4 opengl es is so buggy that itâ€™s of no use

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jya:

itâ€™s only usable in Qt5

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jya:

in Qt4 you canâ€™t use it outside X

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enyc:

aah

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jya:

the way you do it on the pi, is you create an OpenGL ES surface, and you do everything in it

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jya:

directly in the hardware. no X nothing

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jya:

thatâ€™s how the Qt5 cube example application does it

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enyc:

so QT4 may be fine on arm hardware that has graphics support for OpenGL-on-X11 accelerated

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jya:

you type ./cube in the command line, and magic you see a cube rotating on the pi

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jya:

enyc: if thereâ€™s such thing yes

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jya:

in fact thatâ€™s where I stop aiming to port on the pi and started wotking on the cubox

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jya:

because their X driver do support GL

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enyc:

hummingboard==cubox essentially

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jya:

and the Pi, I couldnâ€™t even decode mp3

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jya:

wihtout maxing out the CPU

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enyc:

same people, same SoC but now have leadouts to mini-pci and stuff

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jya:

so when you couldnâ€™t even have enough time to decode a single audio frame

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jya:

imagine attempting to play at the same time a video

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jya:

on xbmc, only stuff where you can do passthrough (AC3 / DTS) plays okay

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jya:

after that I ran out of time to continue my work and I gave up

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enyc:

okies

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jya:

but with the new opengles painter in myth, the eglfs support

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jya:

at least you can compile and run mythfrontend , without Xâ€¦ youâ€™ll get the application to start

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jya:

youâ€™ll get a menu etc.

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jya:

after that everything is so slow itâ€™s unusable

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jya:

thatâ€™s what I was up to last.

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jya:

got it to runâ€¦ and was overwhelmed by the task at hand

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enyc:

jya: I see... ok understood

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enyc:

jya: cgarkyou for all your pointers... OOI what distros/versions were you working on/with ?

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jya:

debian-wheezy i think

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jya:

the one linked to on rpi web site

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enyc:

raspbian is wheezy based but compiled with different pflags etc.

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enyc:

jya: there are now, various xbmc-optimized-distros ...

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enyc:

http://lifehacker.com/raspberry-pi-xbmc-solut . . . l-1394239600

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enyc:

jya: i mean xbmc as a frendoend, runnig on raspberry pi, distros

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enyc:

jya: I think, in terms of demonstrating an accelerated armhf mythtv frontend, trusty-armhf on hummingboard(like cubox) or banana pi is my best best to try

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wagnerrp:

armhf wont even run on a raspberry pi, will it?

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gigem:

Is anybody out there? Things are pretty quiet today, too quiet even.

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stuartm:

I'm about, not up to much though

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dekarl:

close to prime time, maybe everyone went back to LiveTV after the latest fixes? :p

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gigem:

:) It was just strange, even the mailing lists have been quiet.

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stuartm:

mid-summer

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gigem:

We could fix that if jya would recruit some more developers from Oz! :)

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dekarl:

we need more nordic devs that can produce prototype of everything in one night (6 months :D

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