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[00:15:31] jpabq: jya, in case you see this — I have worked on the Notification event stuff. I have a test case working and hope to finish it up tomorrow night.
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[08:31:44] stuarta: morning
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[09:02:16] stuartm: morning
[09:03:03] stuartm: have you seen Chris' email to the developer list?
[09:04:21] ** stuarta opens email **
[09:05:37] stuarta: tbh, it's probably zbblock
[09:05:41] stuartm: neither alcor nor your vm are in the SORBs database, so not sure what the deal is there
[09:05:43] stuarta: i'd have to look at the locks
[09:05:47] stuarta: logs
[09:06:09] stuarta: replying to email, it'll be the *user* in SORBS
[09:06:48] stuartm: ah, yeah, re-reading the user email it _is_ zbblock
[09:07:39] stuarta: i have been contemplating disabling that, now we have the other plugin to detect spammy posts
[09:08:02] stuartm: I ran with Chris' interpretation and assumed that it was the registration email that was being blocked, not the user accessing the forum
[09:08:28] stuartm: stuarta: think we should, at least we can see what the damage might be without it
[09:20:22] stuarta: i know it's blocking at least 1 newsfeed type site
[09:21:52] stuarta: but then, i can also see some merit, it's blocking stuff which is not associated with a known browser
[09:24:56] ** stuarta ponders tuning vs disabling **
[09:26:21] ** stuarta sets NEEDINFO on reporter **
[09:38:37] stuartm: some of those newsfeed sites/services are a problem, they continue fetching feeds on stuff that is long dead, especially with trac where they make up more than half the traffic for feeds belonging to tickets opened and closed years ago
[09:39:11] stuarta: i think tuning may be better then. i'm awaiting info from the reporter
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[21:03:53] gigem: jya, dekarl: You all have been cleaning up Robert's metadata mess lately. What do you think of #12218? Specifically, is there any real reason to have inetref, season and episode in oldrecorded? I'm thinking no.
[21:04:48] gigem: Hey bot, can you recognize this #12218 ?
[21:04:48] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12218 **
[21:06:14] dekarl: aye, need to change some regexp to use \b instead...
[21:06:55] dekarl: gigem, I think oldrecorded only needs the fields that are relevant for duplicate matching. Does it also need the fields that are used for serieslink?
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[21:07:26] dekarl: but I may be misunderstanding the purpose of that table :/
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[21:12:32] dekarl: gigem, I wonder what to do about differenciating between "no season" and "season 0 – aka specials" when we default to 0 and avoid NULL. e.g. for miniseries aka multi-part movies
[21:12:34] gigem: dekarl: I agree with you. oldrecorded's original use only for duplicate detection. It picked up some other scheduler state duties along the way. I'll add TODO item to remove them soonish.
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[21:17:10] gigem: dekarl: As someone who generally doesn't care about metadata, I don't really have a strong opinion. I believe you guys have said some services/appls/whatever consider season 0 to be for special episodes. In that case, would -1 work for 'no season'? Also, we don't have to avoid using NULL in the DB. My take is that we just generally do it because it makes for fewer corner cases to test.
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[22:44:29] stuartm: gigem: could season/episode not potentially be used for duplicate detection in future? In master we're storing the season/episode data provided in the guide data (xmltv and EIT)
[22:46:12] stuartm: I see no reason for inetref, other than the fact that with a grabber provided season/episode it acts as a form of 'authority' for those, since the values provided by a grabber may be different from those from guide data
[22:47:32] stuartm: in fact season/episode aren't empty in my old recorded table, not entirely at least
[22:49:14] stuartm: no rhyme nor reason to the half dozen episodes that have non-zero values, they all seem to be pretty old and recorded before the 0.27 release though
[22:51:18] stuartm: no after the release ... one as late as the end of June? wtf
[23:27:44] stuarta: bah... the whole
[23:27:57] stuarta: bah... the whole RemoteFile class has no concept of the backend port
[23:28:17] stuarta: it just *assumes* it's all on the default
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[23:49:45] skd5aner: stuarta, stuartm: you could just set zbblock to work on the registration page. If you just prevent spammy registrations, then you've blocked all spam to the forum at that point
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