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| [00:11:26] | jya: | what’s a .trp file ? |
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| [02:26:50] | stichnot: | jya: .trp is a transport stream |
| [02:27:02] | jya: | yes I’ve figured that out… |
| [02:27:08] | jya: | Debugging your subtitles right now |
| [02:27:22] | jya: | I don’t get it.. the ATSC subtitles is properly found and decoded |
| [02:27:32] | jya: | it is copied to the frame as it should |
| [02:27:57] | jya: | but when it gets back to the AVFD::ProcessVideoFrame the values are empty |
| [02:28:12] | jya: | must have missed something, maybe an initialisation where it shouldn't |
| [02:35:51] | stichnot: | Glad you're able to reproduce the problem. I wonder what's special about the sample you tried where it worked. |
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| [03:25:12] | gigem: | Sometimes I wonder how this house of cards works at all. |
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| [05:12:43] | jya: | stichnot: maybe it wasn’t ATSC subtitles but some other type |
| [05:13:05] | jya: | our patch to support those subtitles is fundamentally incompatible with how an AVFrame works. |
| [05:13:18] | jya: | AVFrame are now reference counted and re-used internally |
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| [05:18:14] | jya: | we added an ATSC and SCTE subtitles buffer in the AVFrame. |
| [05:19:17] | jya: | for it to be available means we would have to manually copy the content of those two fields all the time, even if we aren’t dealing with mpeg streams |
| [05:19:40] | jya: | need to be rethought completely… may have worked at some stage, but it was very messy |
| [05:20:01] | jya: | going to look on how ffmpeg is managing other type of subtitles and use the same methods |
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| [06:49:26] | dekarl: | stuarta, thanks for looking that up (after all it was me who broke it due to lack of copy'n'paster skills :/ |
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| [07:27:49] | jya: | stichnot: funny this format, we can’t seek at all in them with myth |
| [07:28:08] | jya: | VLC has no problem with it |
| [07:30:53] | jya: | that test video shows that our positioning of caption isn’t that great… it’s always on the side. VLC does it much better |
| [07:37:17] | jya: | actually VLC appeas wrong for subtitle supposed to be on the left.. But our mid-row caption appears on the left. The roll-on caption, it appears some characters aren’t cleared so some lines do not appear.. |
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| [07:37:42] | jya: | stichnot: this is for you really… it’s interesting stuff… but I don’t really want to get involved there |
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| [08:31:19] | lomion0815: | stuartm: You remember when we discussed that EditSchedule(&recInfo) is not working right after changing recInfo two days ago? |
| [08:32:30] | lomion0815: | I got it working ... |
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| [09:18:23] | stuarta: | dekarl: haha. at least you actually wrote a test harness |
| [09:19:20] | stuarta: | dekarl: interestingly, the valgrind of the test harness throws up some memory leaks |
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| [10:33:06] | stuartm: | stuarta: I'm getting occassional "400 Bad Request" from forum.mythtv.org |
| [10:33:23] | stuartm: | usually when submitting a form (posting or moderating) |
| [10:39:08] | stuarta: | hmmm, i'll see what i can find out. pm me your ip address |
| [10:42:43] | stuarta: | nm found it in the ACP |
| [10:46:55] | stuarta: | curious, it's not thrown an actual error in the webservers logs, just 1 entry logged with the 400 response code |
| [11:24:00] | jya: | weird.. I don’t even recall doing git push :( |
| [11:24:36] | jya: | must have been xcode doing so when I made one change… |
| [11:24:49] | jya: | forgot to sign all the commits :( |
| [11:25:01] | stuarta: | doh |
| [11:31:17] | jya: | stuartm: I’m running the leak finder instruments in XCode |
| [11:31:28] | jya: | so far all of them are MythQtImage |
| [11:31:32] | jya: | and a fair amount of those |
| [11:32:04] | jya: | 5 minutes in the main menu, there are a good 100s |
| [11:33:34] | jya: | and sitting in the main menu, I get a .02MB/s increase |
| [11:33:52] | jya: | that’s heap allocation |
| [11:34:38] | jya: | will run playback while I read a book for an hour or so |
| [11:40:20] | stuartm: | the increase just sitting in the menu is a concern, generally though I'd expect there to be a growth in storage consumed by images as they fill the cache |
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| [12:12:12] | stuartm: | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html? . . . eMismatch=on |
| [12:21:28] | ** stuarta facepalms ** | |
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| [12:41:52] | jya: | i don’t know if it’s unique to the VDA code, but after about 1 hour run, I have 520134 MythQtImage marked as leakd… it could be unique to VDA as I’m a tad ensure on how memory is allocated due to the new get_buffer2 API |
| [12:44:37] | stichnot: | knightr_: Commits 5dd8f5651ece8bb2bd1a1305c1d57519b0276687 and 737906d08fcb12836ef6ab84ba12cd18167fd372 changed globalsettings.cpp permission bits from 644 to 755, which shouldn't really have happened. Can you change it back? |
| [12:52:12] | stichnot: | jya: ATSC captions work for me, thanks! |
| [12:52:43] | jya: | stichnot: did you read my earlier comment? |
| [12:52:54] | jya: | there are some issues in how the subtitles appear in the video |
| [12:53:00] | jya: | especially the one scrolling up |
| [12:53:01] | stichnot: | you mean about placement in that test? yeah |
| [12:53:19] | jya: | like say you had a first line: ABCDEFG |
| [12:53:21] | stichnot: | I'll look at the scrolling issue when I finally get my laptop back... |
| [12:53:37] | jya: | and it goes up, and a new line is written in place of the old one: 12345 |
| [12:53:47] | jya: | it appears as 12345FG |
| [12:53:56] | jya: | and ABCDEFG has disappeared |
| [12:53:59] | jya: | and you have FG there |
| [12:54:06] | jya: | VLC displays those properly |
| [12:54:27] | stichnot: | I noticed intermittent problems with roll-up captions for real-time captions when watching the Olympics, which I mean to look into |
| [12:54:58] | stichnot: | jya: do you happen to know if that happened for cc608 or cc708 captions? |
| [12:55:12] | dekarl1: | a tool that reads all kinds of hidden bitstreams, eg. VBI data, and converts it to dedicated streams might be useful. http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/DVD/Book_B/VBI.html lists three ways to encode it. then there is user data of mpeg-2 video, layer 2 audio etc pp. While at it the WSS/AFD data could be useful until the black bar detection works with hardware decoding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widescreen_signaling |
| [12:55:18] | jya: | it was the first video you gave on the link in the email |
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| [12:55:27] | jya: | and I selected the first ATSC Stream, the English one |
| [12:55:40] | jya: | BTW, for the other type of subtitles, nothing appears |
| [12:55:45] | jya: | not sure if that’s on purpuse |
| [12:55:49] | jya: | purpose |
| [12:56:06] | dekarl: | jya, if there are issues with the CC support in VLC you could just ping devitheitmueller when he's around http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=3205 |
| [12:56:08] | stichnot: | ok. |
| [12:57:16] | jya: | dekarl: VLC appears okay to me, except that everything appears to be in the center |
| [12:57:30] | jya: | having said that, I don’t know how it is supposed to appear on that video |
| [12:57:38] | jya: | but seeing the caption states “middle row†|
| [12:57:52] | jya: | and myth is always on the left, but VLC is always in the middle |
| [12:58:08] | stichnot: | btw, precise positioning isn't likely to be perfectly precise because of all the boundary areas, font sizes, aspect ratio, etc. |
| [12:58:12] | jya: | i know for sure that myth doesn’t do it properly, but maybe it’s the same for VLC and they always display it in the middle |
| [12:58:30] | jya: | stichnot: the font in myth is much nicer, and also it rendered all the characters properly |
| [12:58:30] | dekarl: | ok, just wanted to hint that the author of that code is around sometimes |
| [12:58:38] | jya: | VLC had a lot of empty squares |
| [12:59:27] | stichnot: | yeah, I think I used that sample as a factor in choosing fonts, including making sure the glyphs are all there |
| [12:59:54] | stichnot: | though Qt does glyph substitution from a "similar" font if it's missing |
| [13:01:02] | stichnot: | one thing about cc608 is that it was basically defined with 4:3 aspect ratio in mind, and I think we don't do any kind of centering adjustment for 16:9 videos, which may make it appear more to the left? |
| [13:01:51] | stichnot: | but I think long ago I looked at how "modern" cc608 captions are produced, and maybe they looked better not centered? it's been too long |
| [13:02:19] | stichnot: | but the scroll-up is definitely a problem... |
| [13:10:45] | stuartm: | jya: we've valgrinded the frontend a few times on linux and it's never revealed a problem, besides which if it really was leaking half a million images you'd see it in the rss – pixmaps use a lot of memory 8MB for one that's 1920x1080 to give an idea |
| [13:11:56] | jya: | stuartm: i think it’s the tool not reporting the object type properly |
| [13:12:16] | jya: | looking into it, it’s in the memory allocated by ffmpeg when allocating a frame that is never freed |
| [13:12:33] | jya: | it seems that our usage of allocating an AVFrame, on the heap |
| [13:12:50] | jya: | isn’t the right way to do so, because the data contained inside the AVFrame is never freed |
| [13:16:04] | stuartm: | fwiw, I'm perfectly willing to believe that there could be an issue with the VDA painter, or the string texture cache on OSX, when you mentioned the growth while it was doing nothing at all those were the two possibilities that came to mind |
| [13:28:04] | stichnot: | knightr_: looks like my latest commit reverted the globalsettings.cpp permissions change, so never mind. :) |
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| [14:33:41] | jya: | stuartm: actually, just realised. I wasn’t using VDA |
| [14:33:50] | jya: | FTA here is mpeg2 and VDA doesn’t do VDA |
| [14:34:10] | jya: | now it could be due to the ffmpeg 2.2 upgrade, how they treat their AVFrame is very different |
| [14:39:30] | jya: | in any case, would have to redo those tests with fixes/0.27 and check if it’s not a more ancient problem.. don’t think anyone tried memory leaks for 0.27 |
| [14:45:01] | stichnot: | jya, stuartm: fwiw, I still think there's some sort of memory leak during playback or pbb, based on my frontend with 2GB RAM no swap crashing every few days, but I haven't found the source yet. |
| [14:45:21] | jya: | stichnot: is that recent? |
| [14:47:14] | jya: | hmm… vda doesnt work all of a sudden… going to restart to see if it;s temporary |
| [14:51:24] | jya: | ok.. no more leak in avfd... |
| [14:51:57] | stichnot: | jya: I can't say about anything since the recent ffmpeg merge, but I'm certainly talking about say between 1–6 months ago |
| [14:52:09] | jya: | ah so it is old… |
| [14:52:23] | jya: | would have been less worried if that was recent |
| [14:53:22] | jya: | the biggest leaker now is Leaked Object # Address Size Responsible Library Responsible Frame |
| [14:53:22] | jya: | NSMutableDictionary 41 < multiple > 2.56 KB IOHIDLib IOHIDDeviceClass::createElement(__CFData const*, IOHIDElementStruct*, unsigned int, void const*, __CFDictionary*, bool*, unsigned int) |
| [14:53:28] | jya: | I have no idea what that class is |
| [14:53:49] | jya: | probably related to the apple remote control |
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| [14:57:16] | stuartm: | jya: mouse/keyboard or remote are all possibilities, can't think of any other Human Interface Devices |
| [14:57:35] | jya: | trying to learn this tool |
| [14:57:51] | jya: | but there was a definite leak with the way we were allocating AVFrame on the heap |
| [14:58:30] | jya: | i had always been a bit suspicious about it, especially as the doc about AVFrame clearly state the object should be allocated with avcodec_alloc_frame in 1.2 et av_frame_alloc in 2.2 |
| [14:59:08] | jya: | in any case, I went from 500k+ non-freed object, to 4 |
| [14:59:20] | jya: | and that could just be because I haven’t exited playback yet |
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| [15:03:21] | jya: | someone on the user list just reported a valgrind output, which shows exactly the same kind of leak I’ve just fixed |
| [15:03:47] | jya: | now if that’s in 0.27.1, it means our leak has been there for a long time, cause we’ve always allocated an AVFrame on the heap |
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| [15:06:35] | jya: | at least a reboot fix my VDA issue |
| [15:11:22] | jya: | where would be a good place to put a utility class that allocate an AVFrame ? |
| [15:11:41] | jya: | it could be used all over the place (libmyth/audio, the encoder, libmythtv, programs etc) |
| [15:13:27] | stuartm: | for now 99% of that stuff is in libmythtv, so that seems like the best place |
| [15:13:46] | jya: | but then I would have libmyth calling libmythtv |
| [15:13:48] | jya: | it wasn’t before |
| [15:13:53] | jya: | an extra cross dependency |
| [15:14:16] | jya: | not that we don’t have plenty of those already |
| [15:14:19] | stuartm: | libmyth/audio should really get moved into libmythtv or a new libmythaudio, at which point splitting up libmythtv into a few smaller libs might also make sense |
| [15:15:13] | stuartm: | not sure how the audio code ever ended up in libmyth, but libmyth is doomed anyway, we've been slowly migrating everything out of there with the eventual aim of dropping it |
| [15:15:21] | jya: | interesting… running the leak analyzer cause the video to pause and frame to be dropped |
| [15:15:45] | jya: | everytime that happens, I can see the amount of memoru allocated by av_malloc to just be 700 bytes |
| [15:15:55] | jya: | looks like dropping a frame cause it to leak |
| [15:16:22] | stuartm: | libmythrecoder/libmythdecoder/libmythvideo/libmythaudio etc |
| [15:17:05] | jya: | to be honest, while I see the point in splitting the code |
| [15:17:19] | jya: | don’t see the point of bothering with so many dynamic lib |
| [15:17:59] | jya: | especially when you have libmythtv/libmythbase/libmythaudio all intercalling one another |
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| [15:20:22] | stuartm: | well part of the redesign would be to avoid that interdependency |
| [15:20:32] | stuartm: | if possible at least |
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| [15:22:01] | stuartm: | but primarily it would be about making things a little easier to follow – if all audio output code is in libmythaudio, all decoding in libmythdecoder etc you know where you need to be looking and which files might be involved |
| [15:22:42] | stuartm: | anyway, that's the dream, reality is that it's a very low priority and probably won't ever happen :) |
| [15:23:04] | jya: | I thought you had already started to work on it :) |
| [15:24:01] | stuartm: | started work on eliminating the old monolithic libmyth, that's been going on for years, but haven't touched libmythtv yet |
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| [15:37:11] | dekarl: | What's wrong with good old static linkage for our own code? |
| [15:37:50] | dekarl: | make it easier for users to test e.g. mythtranscode from various versions against a test file without breaking their setup |
| [15:38:50] | dekarl: | Third party code is supposed to use the service api in the future, so all the effort that goes into the API/ABI of the shared libraries can be "optimized out" |
| [15:39:09] | jya: | dekarl: size I guess |
| [15:39:35] | jya: | having to relase each binaries in the mac package, with the libraries separately |
| [15:39:54] | dekarl: | hmm, static linkage would allow to leave out uncalled code. and for minimyth and similar there's always crunchgen |
| [15:39:58] | jya: | cause the backend package, that comes with mythconverg, mythfilldatabase and mythtv-setup to be over 1.3GB |
| [15:40:14] | jya: | because each of them include all the libs |
| [15:40:34] | jya: | i don’t think you’ll dropped the size of mythconverg by much by statically linking it |
| [15:42:29] | jya: | starting myth, leaving it in the menu for 1 minute, and starting playback via VDA |
| [15:42:34] | jya: | then exiting cleanly |
| [15:43:02] | jya: | shows MythQtImage to have leaked by 1.97MB (Created by QImageData::create() |
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| [15:43:47] | jya: | and 3rd biggest is av_malloc with 56kB , which I believe are the frames dropped to keep up a/v sync but never freed |
| [15:44:04] | jya: | need to find where that drop occurs |
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| [15:50:07] | jya: | stichnot: the small leak is actually in AVFormatDecoder::ProcessSubtitlePacket |
| [15:51:01] | jya: | this is very cool that xcode tool |
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| [16:07:54] | jya: | stuartm: according to the tool, all those filename = other.filename; filename.detach();, in the loatimage thread, is responsible for quite a bit |
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| [16:11:29] | stichnot: | annoying... when I do wifi hotspot via cellphone tethering, freenode insists on SASL identification, whatever that is, so I have to VPN to work to use IRC |
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| [16:19:31] | stuartm: | stichnot: they require SASL, where you authenticate with NickServ before even connecting to the network on IP ranges which are frequently used by trolls etc, so mobile networks etc |
| [16:20:28] | stuartm: | you need an IRC client which supports SASL either natively or through plugins |
| [16:20:50] | stuartm: | all of which is helpfully summarised here: https://freenode.net/sasl/ |
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| [16:54:42] | jya: | stichnot: you’re still using the nuppel recorder? |
| [16:55:43] | stichnot: | no |
| [16:55:50] | jya: | ah bugger... |
| [16:56:09] | jya: | that code was leaking there… i’ve fixed it, but I have no way to test |
| [16:56:16] | stichnot: | Where would that be used? just for mythtranscode to mpeg4? |
| [16:56:23] | stichnot: | I might be able to try that later |
| [16:56:37] | jya: | here it’s NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp |
| [16:56:46] | stichnot: | especially since I can record from PVR-150 and that workflow used to work for me |
| [16:56:54] | jya: | so if you have an analog card, that’s what is being used |
| [16:57:30] | stichnot: | really? I'll have a look at PVR150 recordings. |
| [16:59:15] | jya: | well, whatever writes a .nub |
| [16:59:18] | jya: | .nuv |
| [17:01:05] | stichnot: | pvr150 writes .mpg. The only thing I ever used that made a .nuv is mythtranscode |
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| [17:01:34] | jya: | ah ok |
| [17:01:50] | jya: | it’s in Recorders/NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp |
| [17:06:31] | jya: | having said that, i’ve modified the nuppel writer to, so mythtranscode to nuppel will be a good test too |
| [17:07:48] | stuartm: | stichnot: nuv recorder is used for analogue frame grabbers |
| [17:08:10] | stichnot: | stuartm: I thought we had "deprecated" those long ago |
| [17:08:36] | stuartm: | PVR* cards were relatively unique among analogue cards because they included on-board encoders |
| [17:09:05] | stuartm: | stichnot: certainly discouraged their use, but all the code is still there and I guess some people will still be using them |
| [17:10:25] | jya: | well, 188MB leak in one hour to 11kB |
| [17:10:50] | stichnot: | maybe there was a discussion that informally concluded that, but never written down? I bet danielk22 could give more context |
| [17:11:00] | jya: | can’t find where that 11kB is from. The leak tool says it comes from the subtitle code, but this video has no subtitle, and my breakpoint is never called |
| [17:13:11] | stichnot: | btw stuartm: thanks for the sasl info. Naturally I'm stuck on a Chromebook right now and afaict no Chrome IRC apps support SASL |
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| [17:27:14] | jya: | ouch… in the main menu, we have 717002 objects living in the heap.. |
| [17:27:18] | jya: | that’s rather impressive ! |
| [17:30:02] | stichnot: | I guess that's correlated with why mythfrontend takes many seconds (at least on my frontend machines) to start up |
| [17:31:42] | stuartm: | stichnot: some of that is due to the idiotic way settings are loaded on startup |
| [17:32:09] | jya: | 213MB |
| [17:32:41] | jya: | oh, interesting… i just got back after writing an email, and it’s down to 131,596 objects |
| [17:34:00] | jya: | I have 64x176 bytes allocated by av_malloc that hasn’t been freed, but I’m unable to get a trace on where it was called from… downside of how it checks for leaks via sampling I guess |
| [17:34:20] | jya: | it’s certainly nothing major leak-wise now |
| [17:34:53] | jya: | the 1.96MB are images, as you said stuartm just the cache |
| [17:36:57] | stuartm: | will be trying something suggested by dekarl a while back to reduce the size of cached images with the opengl painter, but probably not for a while |
| [17:37:14] | jya: | in the 213MB memory footprint, we have 31.5MB for the fonts, 22.45MB for libQtCore I have no idea what’s that, 16MB in a _GLOBAL__l_a object, whatever that is |
| [17:38:01] | jya: | ignore “VM allocations†it’s 84MB |
| [17:38:06] | stuartm: | fonts are rather large, wonder whether we're loading more than is actually used |
| [17:39:03] | jya: | and in those 84MB, there are 23 x 1.83MB of QImageData |
| [17:39:27] | jya: | …. uh.. |
| [17:39:31] | jya: | something not quite right:) |
| [17:40:40] | jya: | probably not reading that one properly… |
| [17:40:44] | jya: | well, off to bed... |
| [17:40:46] | jya: | good night |
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| [20:47:46] | stuarta: | naff all in the sar data from the crash 2 days ago |
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| [21:09:23] | xris: | yay, possible gpl violation from http://minimyth2.linuxd.org/ |
| [21:13:19] | stuartm: | xris: that's warpme's project |
| [21:13:40] | xris: | user apparently asked him for source code and was turned down |
| [21:13:45] | xris: | I forward the email to the developers list |
| [21:14:31] | stuartm: | ah |
| [21:16:53] | stuartm: | he's our Polish translator fwiw, and Polish forum moderator |
| [21:17:07] | stuartm: | and often hangs out in here |
| [21:17:14] | xris: | good to know |
| [21:17:22] | xris: | I'm just passing along the info. |
| [21:30:50] | stuartm: | xris: did you send that to the wrong list? |
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| [21:38:27] | xris: | ah, crap. |
| [21:40:07] | xris: | stupid autocomplete caught me. that's what I get for trying to do this stuff while I'm actually working. |
| [21:49:51] | dekarl: | Should we just offer hosting so we don't end up with a minimyth3 in some years? Been thinking about that earlier as he started to setup a new minimyth2 forum. All this balkanization of our user base stinks |
| [21:50:23] | dekarl: | basically killing two birgs with one stone |
| [21:50:27] | xris: | there are patent-related issues that prevent a US-based group like mythtv from dealing directly with any binary files |
| [21:50:55] | xris: | mp3, mp4, aac, etc |
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