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| [00:05:03] | wagnerrp: | someone pinged me, but it must have been a while ago |
| [00:05:10] | wagnerrp: | it's beyond my scrollback |
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| [01:12:35] | jya1: | esperegu: live TV recordings are always expired quickly. It use to expire every program less than 5 minutes after only a minute. Now it only expire recordings that are empty, and only every 5 minutes.. your two expired recordings are either failed or dummy ones seeing that they are 0MB (which is myth 0 bytes)... no point keeping them |
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| [04:13:36] | wagnerrp: | ^^ alcor is back up |
| [04:17:29] | wagnerrp: | does anyone remember the specific board, or card? |
| [04:17:49] | wagnerrp: | i remember there was something about having to get an older version of the card because of the board revision |
| [04:33:14] | jya1: | wagnerrp: did you see #12101 ? |
| [04:33:14] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12101 ** | |
| [04:33:58] | jya1: | few comments running on the mailing list |
| [04:35:09] | wagnerrp: | yeah. there's some quirks with the timing for the housekeeper i need to work out |
| [04:35:41] | jya1: | it's been two months... |
| [04:36:02] | jya1: | the patch appears to work for the people who used it |
| [04:36:46] | jya1: | IMHO, I wouldn't do it like that, leave the current InWindow inside the UseSuggestedTime (just in case) and add the else if as in the patch |
| [04:37:51] | wagnerrp: | haven't been in town more than a couple days at a time since mid-march to do much work on myth |
| [04:38:14] | jya1: | I can take ownership of that ticket. |
| [04:38:58] | wagnerrp: | sure. i'm not going to have much time for about another two weeks |
| [04:39:20] | jya1: | hmm.. looking over it again, if we have the "use suggested time" it doesn't make sense to ignore the user schedule window |
| [05:12:44] | jya1: | wagnerrp: pushing to git, show this error: remote: git_buildbot: ERROR: Could not connect to localhost:9989: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused |
| [05:13:27] | wagnerrp: | a lot of stuff doesn't come up automatically on boot. beirdobot, smoon, and apparently gitolite |
| [05:13:57] | wagnerrp: | i don't think we have init scripts for them |
| [05:18:45] | jya1: | what's on port 9989 normally? |
| [05:20:05] | wagnerrp: | i think that's what buildbot uses |
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| [05:36:32] | jya1: | buildbots are dead? |
| [05:36:47] | wagnerrp: | build master probably isn't running |
| [05:37:07] | ** jya1 what else did ffmpeg made deprecated now... ** | |
| [05:41:12] | dekarl: | jya, I happen to end up with less then interesting screenshot more often then I like http://picpaste.de/Bildschirmfoto-automatic-s . . . 4fLYWuLx.png so I prefer something a real person has picked |
| [05:42:25] | jya1: | but what about the fun times with the game trying to guess what that was? |
| [05:43:30] | dekarl: | that's what I would use the bookmark screenshots for. Easy to pick a hard one :) |
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| [06:09:56] | esperegu: | jya1: yeah. but it stops current playback of livetv. can it be it somehow wants to expire the currently playing live recording? |
| [06:35:17] | ** wagnerrp pokes stuarta ** | |
| [06:35:54] | ** wagnerrp also pokes stuartm ** | |
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| [07:32:31] | ** stuarta pokes wagnerrp ** | |
| [07:33:30] | wagnerrp: | about to go to sleep, but if i'm going to install an ipmi card next week, i need to get to buying it today |
| [07:34:20] | stuarta: | i think you need to speak to xris as his old company had a hand in providing the server |
| [07:34:32] | xris: | old as in a LONG time ago |
| [07:35:00] | stuarta: | yes, it's so old it doesn't do virt properly |
| [07:35:08] | xris: | no doubt |
| [07:35:12] | ** stuarta goes for brekky ** | |
| [07:35:23] | ** wagnerrp goes for sleepy ** | |
| [07:36:41] | stuarta: | xris: do they even do ipmi cards for that server anymore? |
| [07:36:58] | xris: | doubt it. it's been well over 5 years |
| [07:37:12] | xris: | probably closer to 7 |
| [07:38:12] | xris: | pretty sure it's a stock supermicro motherboard, though. |
| [07:38:22] | xris: | well, "stock".. they tended not to sell direct to consumer |
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| [07:59:16] | stuarta: | dekarl: no. a) it's not dumping a core b) the builddir's are cleaned after each run |
| [07:59:51] | stuarta: | dekarl: tbh, it may be worth valgrinding those unit test |
| [07:59:53] | stuarta: | tests |
| [08:54:28] | stuartm: | jya: we stopped using github because their downtime was worse than ours |
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| [08:56:59] | stuartm: | we got tired of not being able to push commits because they were down again ... |
| [08:57:48] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: gitolite should be starting on boot |
| [08:58:04] | stuarta: | everything required should start on boot |
| [08:58:10] | stuarta: | if it doesn't let me know |
| [08:58:22] | stuartm: | smoon doesn't |
| [08:58:41] | stuartm: | apparently neither does beirdobot |
| [08:58:50] | stuarta: | okay, need to fix those then |
| [08:59:17] | stuarta: | so much stuff to fix |
| [08:59:22] | stuartm: | seems the server died twice in the past 24 hours |
| [08:59:27] | stuarta: | it did? |
| [08:59:52] | stuarta: | arse, here's me thinking it's been up and steady for quite a long time now |
| [08:59:52] | stuartm: | yeah, I had osuosl hard reboot yesterday, seems wagnerrp did the same in the early hours |
| [09:00:19] | stuarta: | hmm, sounds like time to prepare another sync of /opt |
| [09:02:59] | stuarta: | as well as dump and restore the databases |
| [09:04:11] | stuartm: | ff22b719 is going to cause problems, mfdb will now NEVER use the window :( |
| [09:10:35] | stuartm: | xris: you mention a while back that you talked informally with an OSUOSL guy about using a couple of their VMs? |
| [09:10:52] | xris: | yeah, they've offered several times |
| [09:11:19] | stuartm: | think we should start the ball rolling today |
| [09:11:21] | xris: | same with using their mailman servers |
| [09:11:46] | stuarta: | we definitely need to start spinning up vm's |
| [09:12:54] | stuartm: | each time the server dies I'm concerned it's not going to come back up, and when it dies twice in a 24 hour period that really should be the wake up call |
| [09:13:03] | stuarta: | bare minimum 1x web host, 1x db host |
| [09:13:13] | stuarta: | 1x other |
| [09:13:44] | xris: | I don't remember who I talked to, but it was just general chatter in #osuosl |
| [09:14:52] | xris: | geesch, I need to sleep |
| [09:15:08] | xris: | spent the last 2 hours looking for $25 more to spend at newegg to save $15. heh |
| [09:27:46] | acle: | 0.27+fixes built yesterday should have the latest and greatest for Ceton ETH 6 right? |
| [09:32:44] | stuarta: | stuartm: i feel like setting up kdump on alcor, so that if it crashes, then maybe we'll get a vmcore I can look at |
| [09:34:11] | dekarl: | acle: not sure what you are talking about, but yes, the RTP/IPTV fixes lately have made it into 0.27 |
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| [09:39:25] | acle: | dekarl, sry for lack of clarity, I'm trying to discover why my backend wedges at startup. TunerOff leads to an http request that doesn't seem to get anywhere. I'm looking to get details but I just wanted to check that Ceton ETH 6 was ok to use with 0.27, it's all I have. Thanks for the response. |
| [09:42:28] | stuartm: | stuarta: do we have the room for a core? |
| [09:42:36] | ** stuartm hasn't checked ** | |
| [09:44:06] | stuarta: | yep, we have ~90Gb unallocated, and we only have 16Gb of memory, so even a full memory dump crash would be able to be captured |
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| [09:56:36] | stuarta: | hmm, that's not promising kdump was running but it never dumped core |
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| [10:06:14] | ** stuarta tweaks a few sysctl's ** | |
| [10:06:59] | jya1: | stuartm: I've spent the last 2 hours trying to debug why VAAPI wasn't working with the new FFmpeg API... So went back to previous ffmpeg2.0 merge. And it was also not working.. just a black screen |
| [10:07:14] | jya1: | turned out, it's the OpenGL2 painter! |
| [10:07:24] | stuarta: | \o/ |
| [10:07:31] | jya1: | just when I was thinking of dropping the opengl1 alltogether :( |
| [10:07:46] | jya1: | who knows about opengl ? |
| [10:07:46] | stuarta: | jya1: btw. i sorted forums for you |
| [10:08:06] | stuartm: | jya1: I've had that happen to me a couple of times now, unsure of the cause but I've not spent any time debugging eithe |
| [10:08:07] | stuartm: | r |
| [10:08:10] | jya1: | stuarta: in what way? |
| [10:09:38] | stuarta: | jya1: so you can now mistype forums.mythtv.org and get to the forums |
| [10:09:57] | jya1: | oh yes, you told me so yesterday :) |
| [10:10:13] | stuarta: | can't have, i wasn't on yesterday ;-P |
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| [10:10:26] | jya1: | oh, I have the same issue about liveTV timing out after 7mins |
| [10:10:35] | jya1: | well, it was two days ago then |
| [10:10:49] | jya1: | https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=200 |
| [10:11:02] | jya1: | what has changed there? certainly not me, I haven't done anything |
| [10:34:34] | stuartm: | don't think I've touched anything in that area at all |
| [10:34:57] | jya1: | it looks like the auto-expiry kicks in very early and so there's no more to read |
| [10:35:39] | jya1: | and the frontend liveTV player has no handling of when the current recording has stopped feeding data. when there's no more to read data, it is assumed that it's a transition to a new program |
| [10:36:04] | jya1: | could it be related to gigem changes in the scheduler? |
| [10:36:42] | stuartm: | maybe a1b50676 |
| [10:36:48] | stuartm: | heh, snap |
| [10:37:16] | jya1: | doing a bisect in the past week is going to be a pain.. so many changes to the database making one version incompatible with another |
| [10:37:43] | stuartm: | try reverting a1b50676 locally |
| [10:37:59] | jya1: | I don't even have that commit locally |
| [10:38:21] | jya1: | i pulled about 4–5 hours ago |
| [10:39:13] | jya1: | no such commit on github either |
| [10:39:15] | stuartm: | err, 8116fde |
| [10:39:22] | stuartm: | a1.. is the backport |
| [10:39:32] | stuartm: | http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id . . . bf22e9340b34 |
| [10:39:46] | jya1: | oh that does looks like a candidate |
| [10:43:59] | stuartm: | of all the bots, only google is ignoring the robots.txt on code.mythtv.org |
| [10:44:23] | stuartm: | and I know they've checked it, 12 hours ago |
| [11:09:11] | stuartm: | jya1: fwiw, ff22b719 means that mfdb will always ignore the window, since 0.27 it has always used suggestedruntime even for xmltv by adding 24 hours to the last run time |
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| [11:09:56] | stuartm: | I'll come up with a fix that ensures the suggested runtime falls into the window |
| [11:10:58] | stuartm: | the point of the window being to prevent heavy db load while we're in the middle of recording, which would mean it's better to be in the window that to run at the suggested time (which is after all just a suggestion) |
| [11:19:38] | stuartm: | jya1: are you testing with that commit reverted? We're getting more reports in -users, so I'm seeing if I'm able to reproduce here |
| [11:20:45] | jya1: | stuartm haven't checked yet.. finishing the vaapi decoder... |
| [11:20:51] | jya1: | will do so shortl |
| [11:20:52] | jya1: | y |
| [11:21:25] | stuartm: | gigem: if you're around, we're investigating livetv being broken in the last couple of days with both 0.27 and master, your IsSameRecording/IsSameProgramWeak check change is the main suspect atm |
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| [11:22:12] | stuartm: | the auto-expirer is deleting in-use files |
| [11:22:14] | jya1: | stuartm it's broken in fixes/0.27 ? |
| [11:22:34] | stuartm: | [05/06/2014 11:00:45] <lapion> currently 27.1 is unstable for live tv playback, be-it dvb or analog tv playbackjya1: apparently - |
| [11:22:43] | stuartm: | wtf happened there, |
| [11:22:51] | stuartm: | jya1: apparently |
| [11:23:03] | jya1: | ah it has the same changes |
| [11:23:17] | stuartm: | and there it goes on my machine |
| [11:23:18] | jya1: | havne't upgraded my production machines in the past few days |
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| [11:38:21] | stuartm: | I'm testing now with that commit reverted, but it would be helpful to have someone else confirm whether it does (or doesn't) fix the problem |
| [11:38:35] | jya1: | stuartm: I'm compiling without it right now |
| [11:38:36] | stuartm: | want to rule out coincidence |
| [11:38:42] | jya1: | will let you know in 8 minutes :) |
| [11:39:18] | jya1: | i mean to have 0.27 broken , that's the only thing that went in that touches something connected to the backend |
| [11:39:40] | jya1: | so the likelihood that it's the culprit is pretty high |
| [11:41:01] | stuartm: | yeah, I'm pretty much convinced it as to be the culprit, but I don't want to just revert it declare it fixed and then move on to other things only for it to rear it's head again in a few hours |
| [11:43:02] | jya1: | for 0.27, I usually just remove things, and ask question later.. for master.. oh well, it's master.. never watch liveTV for more than a couple of minute to see if I haven't broken anything |
| [11:43:03] | acle: | Anyone care to venture what Ceton support thinks of MythTV wrt reliability with their h/w? |
| [11:44:23] | ** acle sweeps it into the other channel and mumbls apologies ** | |
| [11:48:57] | stuartm: | tgm4883: if it's possible to update the -fixes packages early we'd appreciate that, just fixed a nasty bug that we'd prefer few users to experience |
| [11:49:33] | jya1: | they will be automatically updated in about 12 hours |
| [11:50:26] | ** jya1 starting liveTV ** | |
| [11:50:27] | stuartm: | aye, that's why I'm asking for an early update before people come home from work, update and discover that livetv is broken |
| [11:50:57] | stuartm: | jya1: it's been running for 14 minutes here without interruption |
| [11:51:15] | jya1: | and with it? does it immediately stop at 7 minutes? |
| [11:51:21] | jya1: | I'm guessing it's more like 5 minutes |
| [11:51:34] | jya1: | which is when I changed the time on how often live recordings are checked |
| [11:51:40] | jya1: | used to be 1 minute |
| [11:51:52] | stuartm: | it was 6:15 seconds here |
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| [11:52:12] | stuartm: | but I only did a single test before reverting, just to make sure that I could reproduce |
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| [11:52:33] | jya1: | but that was buggering my test experimenting with transition, i modified the backend to create 1 minute recording only, and that idiot was expiring them very quickly, so I had to be super quick to test my changes |
| [11:58:46] | jya1: | 7:40 minutes... still okay... going to make myself a tea, see if it's still running and try with the change put back again |
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| [12:06:45] | stuartm: | I've already pushed the revert on the basis of my own test, livetv was still working after 20 minutes, just started it again and I'm at 6 1/2 minutes |
| [12:07:01] | jya1: | I stopped at 14 minutes |
| [12:07:06] | jya1: | restarted without the change |
| [12:07:18] | jya1: | I mean with the suspected commit back |
| [12:07:37] | jya1: | actually I think it happens quicker when you change channels |
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| [12:09:26] | jya: | back as jya.. finally |
| [12:11:10] | jya: | ah ah ... stopped at 5:18 |
| [12:11:43] | jya: | so stuartm good finding, it was the culprit |
| [12:12:09] | jya: | another proof that touching anything related to the backend without a fair length of testing immediately in fixes is a very bad idea |
| [12:14:29] | jya: | stuartm from the report, it does the same issue when watching in-progress recording, not just liveTV |
| [12:20:01] | stuartm: | ouch, now that really is nasty |
| [12:20:25] | stuartm: | all the more reason to get it the mythbuntu packages updated ASAP |
| [12:20:48] | jya: | there's two people on the user list saying that they get kick back to the main menu while watching an in-progress recording. And from the log, it's definitely a recording being expired too early |
| [12:20:55] | stuartm: | deleting livetv is one thing, it's throwaway stuff, but recordings ... |
| [12:21:35] | stuartm: | I'm not even sure how that's possible, the auto-expirer shouldn't be considering recordings unless we're out of space |
| [12:22:08] | jya: | reading the comment of the code, it appeared it should have made deletion more difficult, not the opposite |
| [12:23:23] | stuartm: | for livetv I can imagine a mechanism – livetv recordings produce two files, a dummy and the actual file, if the commit caused the two files to be confused then the wrong one is removed |
| [12:23:37] | stuartm: | but that doesn't happen for in-progress recordings so ... |
| [12:24:14] | jya: | stuartm can a mpeg ts or ps container have a mpeg4 video stream? |
| [12:25:49] | stuartm: | part 2 or part 10? |
| [12:26:08] | jya: | I've pushed a change to fixes/0.27 only where for anything other than mpeg (the container) I use the old VDPAU API |
| [12:26:16] | jya: | but it appears the issue is in the mpeg4 codec |
| [12:26:45] | jya: | mpeg4 the video codec, not the container. |
| [12:27:14] | jya: | so my "fix" may not be the best one and will also have issue with mpeg4 video stream |
| [12:27:23] | stuartm: | there are two mpeg4 codecs – Part 2 is the older one, Part 10 is also known as H.264 |
| [12:27:27] | stuartm: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_container_formats |
| [12:27:38] | jya: | part 2 |
| [12:27:45] | stuartm: | according to that Part 2 can be used in an Mpeg-ts container |
| [12:27:54] | jya: | I'm not talking containers here |
| [12:28:04] | jya: | ok cool |
| [12:28:19] | jya: | so I'm going to change it so it's the codec that is checked, not the type of container |
| [12:28:31] | stuartm: | makes sense |
| [12:28:49] | jya: | the problem is that the issue is actually in the demuxer |
| [12:28:54] | stuartm: | I've never actually seen Part 2 in a .ts container fwiw, but if it's possible then we should support it |
| [12:29:05] | jya: | because if I play my AVI using mplayer's own demuxer it's all good |
| [12:29:13] | jya: | if I use ffmpeg demuxer, the issue occurs |
| [12:29:27] | jya: | so yes, it's the codec. but the issue only appears with particular codecs |
| [12:29:30] | jya: | very weird |
| [12:29:48] | jya: | just like that Ondine_clip.mpg and the DVD that plays black in myth |
| [12:30:09] | jya: | the issue is in the mpeg2 video codec, but only appears using the ffmpeg mpeg demuxer |
| [12:30:19] | jya: | mplayer's own doesn't have the problem... |
| [12:30:27] | jya: | very confusing |
| [12:30:40] | jya: | trying to find workarounds bugs is such a pain |
| [12:31:30] | jya: | only ps appears to support mpeg4 p2 |
| [12:35:11] | stuartm: | it's listed under both ps and ts in that table on wikipedia, I don't have a better resource handy |
| [12:35:59] | jya: | for ts I only see mpeg4 asp |
| [12:37:43] | stuartm: | opps, mis-read Mpeg 2 Part 2 as Mpeg 4 Part 2 |
| [12:38:05] | stuartm: | ASP is Mpeg 4 Part 2 though, just a particular subset of features |
| [12:38:32] | stuartm: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Simple_Profile |
| [12:41:48] | dekarl: | btw, the buildbot appears to be still down |
| [12:42:08] | jya: | dekarl: when you push you get a message about being enable to some port. |
| [12:42:14] | jya: | wagnerrp: said it was the buildbot |
| [12:42:35] | stuartm: | it is |
| [12:42:55] | dekarl: | I was guessing from https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/waterfall |
| [12:43:32] | stuarta: | dekarl: lemme fix that |
| [12:44:20] | stuartm: | can never remember how it's started |
| [12:44:30] | stuarta: | i'm fixing that too |
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| [12:48:29] | stuarta: | it should autostart now |
| [12:49:15] | stuartm: | :) |
| [12:49:16] | stuartm: | thanks |
| [12:49:21] | stuarta: | np |
| [12:49:31] | dekarl: | ty |
| [13:11:29] | dekarl: | stuarta, mind to let smoon autostart, too? http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html |
| [13:12:32] | stuarta: | todo.list += smoon |
| [13:12:38] | stuarta: | todo.list += beirdobot |
| [13:18:33] | stuarta: | todo.list -= smoon |
| [13:21:34] | jya: | http://www.tweaktown.com/news/38249/sandisk-o . . . ampaign=ttcs |
| [13:21:47] | jya: | i love "journos" math |
| [13:22:03] | jya: | The Optimus MAX uses a familiar 6Gb/s dual-port SAS connection, which allows speeds of up to 1 GB/s from one SSD |
| [13:22:35] | jya: | oh, dual-port... maybe it is possible and I made a fool of myself again |
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| [14:04:07] | stuarta: | jya: do you want the ffmpeg resync branch on the buildslaves? |
| [14:08:47] | tgm4883: | stuartm: just kicked off a build |
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| [14:41:44] | stuarta: | dekarl: i believe the test harness has a bug http://fpaste.org/107437/79286140/ |
| [14:42:04] | stuarta: | which is why the wheezy builder occasionally blows up on it |
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| [14:47:31] | dekarl: | stuarta, I think so, too. But I'm having a hard time seeing it :( |
| [14:47:55] | ** stuarta decides to try coffee ** | |
| [14:48:15] | dekarl: | good idea. And remove the "hack until we support this'n'that" part |
| [14:51:23] | tgm4883: | stuartm: looks like we'll have updated builds published in about an hour https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/fix . . . ng/+packages |
| [14:52:09] | stuarta: | dekarl: from a quick glance i suspect it's because the test harness constructs the DVBContentIdentifierDescriptor with something that isn't actually a DVBContentIdentifierDescriptor |
| [14:52:14] | esperegu: | I already thought this had to be some nasty bug |
| [14:52:35] | esperegu: | nice u guys found it so fast. |
| [14:59:30] | stuarta: | dekarl: the length is not passed, in which case it defaults to 300, which is > the actual length of the descriptor |
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| [15:03:22] | stuarta: | hmm, i may be imagining things |
| [15:11:30] | gigem: | stuarta: I will look at it. |
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| [15:30:57] | stuartm: | gigem: I've reverted the commit on master/fixes since it did turn out to be the cause |
| [15:31:23] | stuartm: | some users were reporting that it was also deleting recordings |
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| [16:55:28] | dekarl: | stuarta, I'm just heading out, but this might be it... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7595972/ |
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| [16:56:14] | dekarl: | that is the descriptor length (length of static data – 1 byte for descriptor tag -1 byte for the length itself) |
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| [17:32:12] | stuarta: | dekarl: lemme try that |
| [17:34:03] | stuarta: | dekarl: that fixes the valgrind error |
| [17:34:37] | stuarta: | seeing if i can find the memory leak for bonus points |
| [17:36:03] | stuarta: | back later |
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| [18:25:59] | stuartm: | tgm4883: superm1: thanks! |
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| [19:02:02] | stuartm: | anyone know how to create a NULL date object in javascript? |
| [19:02:10] | stuartm: | giving me a headache |
| [19:02:46] | stuartm: | not a null object, but a Date object which isn't initialised to 'now' |
| [19:04:57] | stuartm: | OR, how to pass QScript a date that it will convert to a null or invalid QDateTime |
| [19:10:22] | stuartm: | doesn't help that each time I guess wrong the backend segfaults ... GOT to remove those throws() |
| [19:11:10] | stuartm: | well, must |
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| [19:33:56] | jheizer: | stuartm, if you do new Date(""); it will create an "invalid date" it looks like. Not sure if they helps or hurts what you are trying to do. |
| [19:34:59] | stuartm: | thanks, will give that a try when I'm not recording |
| [19:35:33] | jheizer: | Assuming trying to get something to serialize so not sure if it was close enough. |
| [19:38:43] | stuartm: | the services API when accessed through the scripting interface requires all arguments, even optional ones must be defined, even if it's zero for ints, "" for strings etc |
| [19:40:38] | stuartm: | but I'm struggling with null datetime objects for starttime/endtime, the C++ code will ignore them if they are null, but throw an error if they are invalid but it's strict typing also requires that you must pass a Date object |
| [19:42:38] | stuartm: | I might have to go with a workaround which passed a valid endtime but well into the future, that would produce almost the same results for my purposes |
| [19:43:39] | jheizer: | The days when JS's fuzzy typing can be a real pain. |
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| [22:40:16] | jya: | stuarta: that’s not required now, I’ve merged it into master already, and I’m working in master |
| [22:41:15] | ** jya going to look into those reported leaks today ** | |
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