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Sunday, May 18th, 2014, 00:01 UTC
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[00:51:30] skd5aner: jya: re: livetv jumping to the previous program. I think I submitted a bug on that, but I thought you had fixed it a few months back, no?
[00:51:48] skd5aner: I haven't seen it happen in -fixes in a while now since most of your first round of changes were backported
[00:52:34] jya: skd5aner: rewinding to the previous program has worked very well
[00:52:45] jya: in fact seeking within a completed program works very well
[00:53:44] jya: the issue is seeking within an in-progress recording. I’ve fixed that for the time being, but I’m not happy with the fix as it’s more a work-around
[00:55:41] skd5aner: jya: ok, i saw your comment yesterday on it, so thought I'd ask, because it was someting that bit me in the butt many times prior to your fixes being backported, and I don't think I've seen it once since
[00:55:55] jya: the issue is this:
[00:57:49] jya: you’re in a current recording. the size of the recording is read when you start the recording. now keep watching the recording for a few minutes and rewind say 10s
[00:58:37] jya: the rewind code look at where you are (framesPlayed) see how much you want to rewind: so 300 frames (60Hz interlaced, 10s), so it asks to seek to framesPlayed – 300.
[01:00:17] jya: now the seek code see where you want to go, but see that the totalFrame count is lower (which is the size of it when you started playback) and so only let you jump there. So you end up in a different position than what you asked for
[01:01:34] skd5aner: yea
[01:02:21] jya: right now I’ve added a work around, that see that if you attempt to seek further than the totalFrame count and that framesPlayed > totalFrames ; then I query the backend for the current totalFrame value and force an update
[01:02:38] jya: but that should be done automatically by the decoder, but sometimes it doesn't
[01:03:15] jya: if you press Info, etc.. the value will be refreshed. So you can only reproduce the issue when watching liveTV and suddenly you rewind
[01:04:03] skd5aner: hmmmmm
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[01:04:38] jya: many times it has happened with my wife, we watch something, and suddenly it’s like: what did he just say? rewind 10s, and bang you find yourself at the beginning of the recording … and it takes forever then to go back to where you were because you have no idea where you were to start with
[01:08:23] jya: writing a explanatory ticket with my current findings so jpabq can look into it
[01:22:12] jya: jpabq: I created #12146 with my current findings and analysis….
[01:22:12] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12146 **
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[06:19:46] jya: jpabq: in reference to commit cc8c77912d5c388d7ac710615955dc1c2475a88e Add Ceton to the list of cards which can be 'shared'
[06:20:10] jya: if Freebox recorder can be shared, then so can the Ceton.. it’s the same really, rtsp transport
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[09:57:03] jya: stuarta: could you set an auto-builder for devel/027candidates please?
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[16:46:49] jpabq: jya: do you ever sleep? ;-)
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[19:10:33] gigem: jya: It looks like you've already gotten more help from other users, but I just finished testing devel/027candidates and saw no problems.
[19:19:10] gigem: jpabq: I've seen two problems, both involving multirec with virtual tuners. I think both could be related to stream handler locking/reference counting. In the first problem, when one program is already recording and another one starts, the first recording contains some corruption. My guess is the second program starting causes the first to miss some data, either due to starvation or waiting for a new key
[19:19:12] gigem: frame. I've seen this with both an HDHRP and a Ceton. I'll retest in a little while. I'll also test with a clear QAM and a DVB tuner and specifically check the second program to see if there's any corruption when the first program ends. In the second problem, manually stopping a recording often doesn't work and the tuner continues to show as busy. I'm guessing there is a deadlock. I think the problem
[19:19:14] gigem: mainly shows up when stopping the second recording, but I could be mis-remembering it.
[19:20:14] gigem: jpabq: No, the code I was using was not committed. I just committed it. I believe those changes are good and the only problems I know of are the ones I just described.
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[20:14:55] jpabq: gigem: I didn't notice any corruption when I tried a test yesterday: Recording1 @ 1:15 for 10 minutes. Recording 2 @ 1:20 for 10 minutes. Both on the channel. Program 1 on virtual tuner 1, and program 2 on virtual tuner 2. Tuners 1 & 2 are the same physical input.
[20:15:43] jpabq: gigem: With your new code commit, If I don't create 'virtual' tuners, will it sill allow the above scenario? In other words, will it now show both of those recordings on tuner 1?
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[21:50:39] gigem: jpabq: I don't know how you could have tested without my commit from earlier today. No, multirec on HDHRP and Ceton cards works just like it does on plain DVB cards. Simultaneous recordings will show up different virtual tuners. I just finished retesting with current master on a plain DVB card (clear QAM), an HDHRP (with cable card) and a Ceton (with cable card). There was no corruption on the DVB card.
[21:50:40] gigem: On the HDHRP and the Ceton, there was corruption on the first recording when the second one started. There was no corruption on any of the second recordings when the first ones ended.
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[22:26:20] gigem: jpabq: To be sure we're on the same page, both problems I've seen, corruption and deadlock, are when running simultaneous recordings on different virtual tuners of the same physical tuner.
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[22:34:35] jya: jpabq: why wife asked me the same question this morning:)
[22:38:32] jya: gigem: the issue with the ceton was in RemoteFile::GetRealFileSize(). the caching was wrong and it was only returning the cached data… I found the problem by pure luck as I wanted to also have cache in the GetFrameWritten() and did the same mistake there but noticed as i was debugging
[22:38:57] jya: what I don’t understand is why it would break the playback on a PVR-500.
[22:41:03] jya: RemoteFile::GetRealFileSize() used to always return the value of the file size as read when the file was first opened. That value was never updated. I changed that so it would query the backend. That caching was wrong, made it behave exactly the way it has always behaved.
[22:41:26] jya: So why would returning the cached value broke PVR-500, I’m baffled. it should have never worked
[22:42:32] jya: returning the real value over the cache value, was a change I added in [2980b3d29d16]
[22:43:49] jya: gigem: I use multirec, and have often overlapping program.. never seen such problem..
[22:45:53] jya: or is that with a special branch?
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