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[05:48:00] dekarl: stuartm: thanks for the background information
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[05:50:09] dekarl: can someone who knows the playback code look at https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10878 ? It appears like a small patch wrt to ressource handling in picture-in-picture mode. (releasing the frame before its being displayed)
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[08:27:52] stuarta: esperegu: what is boblight?
[08:28:18] esperegu: stuarta: https://learn.adafruit.com/adalight-diy-ambient-tv-lighting
[08:28:43] esperegu: boblight is a program that can control ambient lighting devices
[08:30:04] esperegu: stuarta: one needs to be able to monitor the screen. xmbc has it integrated and there is a plugin for xine/vdr: https://github.com/durchflieger/DFAtmo
[08:30:21] esperegu: stuarta: http://code.google.com/p/boblight/
[08:31:17] esperegu: and for xmbc: https://github.com/bobo1on1/script.xbmc.boblight
[08:33:39] stuarta: oh integration into household lighting
[08:34:16] stuarta: no plans for it that i know of, we've plenty of core functionaility to look at first
[08:34:49] stuartm: more 'mood lighting', https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambilight
[08:35:09] stuartm: basically sampling of the colours at points around the edge of the picture
[08:35:58] stuarta: ugh, that's horrible
[08:37:48] stuartm: it's supposed to be easier on the eyes and also gives the illusion of a larger screen – at least according to the marketing blurb and reviews, never seen it in person
[08:42:02] esperegu: stuarta: you think so? it looks amazing
[08:42:36] stuarta: well i've not got the hardware, nor will i be getting it soon. ENOBUDGET
[08:42:45] esperegu: stuarta: The issue is making the picture available.
[08:42:49] esperegu: stuarta: budget?
[08:42:50] esperegu: LOL
[08:43:02] esperegu: that costs about $50
[08:43:09] stuarta: heck, i can't even upgrade my monitors
[08:43:24] esperegu: stuarta: that sucks. but monitors are more expensive
[08:43:30] esperegu: stuarta: crisis?
[08:43:49] stuarta: nah, just no money for toys
[08:46:06] stuarta: oh now that's just funky http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2014/Apr/44
[09:07:32] stuartm: ooh
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[09:59:33] stuartm: https://xkcd.com/1353/
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[10:10:04] stuartm: wonder why no browsers have been updated to prevent connection to vunerable servers – that would pile pressure on those admins who haven't sorted it out yet
[10:10:36] stuarta: that's far harder
[10:11:40] stuarta: or more to the point, how does a browser distinguish the difference between an SSL endpoint which is vunerable, and an endpoint which has been patched but still supports the feature where the bug was?
[10:11:54] stuarta: short of building in the exploit?
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[10:20:13] stuarta: and tbh, they might well just link against the openssl libs
[10:32:40] stuartm: stuarta: fair point, I wasn't thinking about distros shipping patched but old versions of openssl
[10:35:22] stuartm: although Qualsys seems to have a method for determining vunerability, it's probably going too slow for the browser developers to considering implementing
[10:37:50] stuartm: suspect we'll see some form of blacklisting appear, even if it's managed by hand rather than at runtime and either enforced by browser plugins or at a network level (businesses, not ISPs)
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[10:54:55] ** stuarta hugs lvm thin provisioning **
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[12:53:08] jya: dekarl1: no only the fixes that were absolutely required were backported to fixes/0.27.
[12:53:30] jya: that is things related to FileRingBuffer and RemoteFile blocking for too long and never recovering.
[12:54:48] jya: now devel/027candidates contains the ringbuffer changes I’ve been working on for the past months. Those improves the time to detect the type of media when you first start livetv and change channels
[13:05:48] jya: warpme: it’s very bizarre your logs. it actually didn’t find any streams, yet it returned without errors….
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[13:21:35] stuartm: jya: sorry ran out of time last night to do anything about that RemoteFile issue, increasing the timeout should help if it is just a temporary starvation issue and will help to confirm it
[13:21:56] jya: warpme: I see… if only one stream is properly detected, then avformat_open_input returns without error…
[13:23:03] jya: stuartm: I’ve sent a new binary to my mate, reverting to the previous timeout value in RemoteFile of 30s
[13:23:03] jya: will see how it goes for him
[13:23:33] stuartm: managed to pull some muscles in my back this morning and I can barely walk, so no guarantees that I'll be able to make any of the changes I suggested tonight either, but equally I can't go anywhere so I've got some extra free time :)
[13:23:52] stuarta: coding lying down?
[13:23:59] jya: danielk added various timeout when he converted to QTcpSocket , I remember last year on how we ran into errors for many in the ThreadedFileWriter, which if it ever ran into a timeout, would stop to write the file and continue pretending it was writing
[13:24:22] jya: I’ve been coding lying down all this week :P
[13:26:02] jya: stuartm: if you look what I did in TFW, it’s similar… rather than having one big timeout that exit nastily.. I have small ones and retry many times.
[13:26:02] jya: the only issue I foresee, is that the MythSocket code appears to drop the socket if the timeout is reached
[13:26:09] stuartm: stuarta: trying to avoid lying since getting back up is difficult, propped up in a chair is OK for now
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[13:27:35] stuartm: jya: yeah, I'd want to modify it so that won't drop it without first checking that it's truely dead i.e. a STILLALIVE/PING type message that just checks we're still connected
[13:28:16] jya: ideally, make something that can be backported… so no major change to myth protocol
[13:28:55] stuartm: yep, will remind myself exactly what's available at present before adding something entirely new
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[19:25:30] peper03: stuartm: Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like he's solved his problem himself :)
[19:25:52] peper03: Reminds me of this: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1997-11-06/
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[19:35:38] warpme: jya: I just give try for 2e3d491 from devel/ringbuffer. Effect is that on many channels playback freezes after initial 0.5sec of playback. I change channel, new picture apears, plays for 0.5sec and pauses. Pls look on fe log http://warped.homenet.org/freeze.log
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[20:19:15] stuartm: heh
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[20:44:51] dekarl: stuarta, that patching openssl crap is what got us https://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571
[20:45:47] dekarl: just like then OpenSSL "we can malloc better then the OS" crap made heartbleed worse
[20:46:53] dekarl: e.g. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/211963
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