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[09:45:40] jya: very weird... when a file is opened from the video library, bitrate is properly calculated by libavformat; but when coming form liveTV; it's always wrong by an order of magnitude (e.g. 700kBit instead of 7Mbit/s)
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[10:09:43] jya: ok.. found the reason.. it's https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/5758c2a1d8ce
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[11:52:46] jya: stuartm: do you still have access to a mpeg recorder ?
[11:53:46] jya: reason I ask is I'm changing a flag that is set for liveTV (it is marked as a streaming stream) .. That flag was set in commit https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/3fb11 . . . ecea6b17ec3b to fix bug #2335
[11:53:46] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2335 **
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[11:54:58] jya: lots of things have changed since, and in particular the detection of EOF in files that I modified a couple of weeks ago. So I don't believe that change is still necessary
[11:55:25] jya: but I don't have mpeg encoder. In #2335 however, it seems to have had an impact on a lot of people, including some with the same capture card as I have today
[11:55:25] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2335 **
[11:55:32] jya: and I don't see a problem now
[12:01:37] jya: [14616]
[12:01:37] MythLogBot: No match for SVN revision 14616
[12:06:16] dekarl: [14516]
[12:06:16] MythLogBot: SVN 14516: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/3fb11668
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[14:08:25] stuartm: jya: not for a few years
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[14:24:29] gigem: jya: While I still have my PVR-x50s, I don't have any easily accessible analog sources. I could, however, try an SD channel off clear QAM or cable card if that would help you.
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[16:15:03] jpabq: jya: it will be several hours before I can try, but I can hook up my HVR-2250 via comosit input to my STB. Doesn't really help if you need me to be able to change channels, though.
[16:15:19] jpabq: /s/comosit/composit/
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[19:30:30] gigem: MythTV is decidedly unfriendly when it comes to intentionally not backing up unnecessary files! Would anyone mind if I move the myriad cache directories that pop up all over ~/.mythtv to all be under a single ~/.mythtv/cache, or even perhaps ~/.cache which appears to be becoming a standard for such things?
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[20:03:48] wagnerrp_: gigem: i would be reluctant to move anything we use outside of MYTHCONFDIR / ~/.mythtv
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[20:16:45] gigem: It seems ~/.cache is somewhat of a standard. http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec . . . -latest.html .
[20:16:54] gigem: wagnerrp_: The only thing that would make me personally reluctant to
[20:16:56] gigem: use ~/.cache for Linux would be interactions between different MythTV versions (
[20:16:58] gigem: e.g. production and various development versions). On my production system, .my
[20:17:00] gigem: thtv/themecache is 1.3GB and .mythtv/remotecache is 300MB. Both of those are ex
[20:17:02] gigem: cessively large, IMO, for a 'conf' directory. Perhaps there should be a MYTHCAC
[20:17:04] gigem: HEDIR which defaults to ~/.cache
[20:17:44] gigem: Sorry about that formatting. Let me try that again.
[20:17:52] wagnerrp_: heh... i got it
[20:17:57] stuartm: I _really_ need to add something to the housekeeper to cleanup the theme cache periodically
[20:18:10] gigem: k
[20:18:21] wagnerrp_: the themecache is defaulting not to only the current theme
[20:18:29] wagnerrp_: is there really anything that should be cleaned up?
[20:18:46] wagnerrp_: maybe old artwork/screenshots/etc?
[20:19:08] wagnerrp_: s/not/now/
[20:19:32] gigem: remotecache could use periodic cleanup for deleted recordings.
[20:19:42] stuartm: wagnerrp_: yeah there's going to be stuff which will never be used again, like those and others
[20:19:59] stuartm: old theme images which are no longer used etc
[20:20:15] wagnerrp_: expire 30 days after creation maybe?
[20:20:42] wagnerrp_: you could probably put something into the theme engine where it touches files when it loads them
[20:20:45] stuartm: wagnerrp_: it caches two themes – that was really so people could switch back and forth when trying out alternatives or when they were developing a new theme
[20:20:54] wagnerrp_: check the modification time
[20:21:09] stuartm: wagnerrp_: that's what I was thinking
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[21:13:24] dekarl: jya, does this stream play for you in MythTV? http://apasfiisl.apa.at/ipad/orf2e_q6a/orf.sdp/playlist.m3u8 its ORF 2 Europe and appears to have stopped working. But in VLC it works most of the time (it appears as if they are sometimes directing to a server in their cluster that was taken down, but basically works)
[21:47:53] jya: jpabq: thanks for the offer, there's a patch to simulate one minute long recordings, I'll post that somewhere..
[22:18:53] jya: jpabq: gigem here is the patch http://pastebin.com/Fjz36Fcg
[22:19:29] jya: it causes a new program to be created every minute, and also sligthly reduces the verbosity when running with -v file --loglevel=debug (which I would typically need to check issues)
[22:20:39] jya: gigem: I prefer if all files related to one program is kept in the same directory. so ~/.mythtv/cache
[22:31:20] gigem: jya: Is there something specific you want me to look for, or just general goodness/badness with your 1-minute/live TV patch and lower bit-reate mpeg2?
[22:31:37] jya: gigem: that last one...
[22:31:56] jya: but right now I haven't pushed the changes that could effect PVR-xx recorder.
[22:32:22] jya: as when I remove the "streaming" mode; it can take up to 10s to rewind between program... I think I now why, going to make some changes
[22:33:17] stuartm: gigem: +1 for consolidating all the caching in one place, not bothered where that is, although I'm less likely to forget where it is if it's under ~/.mythtv
[22:33:29] jya: issue with the ffmpeg streaming settings is that the bitrates calculated are completely wrong... and so is a reason why liveTV misbehaves for many (me at least)
[22:33:51] stuartm: making it configurable with a MYTHCACHEDIR (oddly, I thought that already existed) would be enough to please everyone
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[23:06:16] gigem: jya: OK. I'll check back in a couple of hours.
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[23:08:25] gigem: stuartm: Yeah some consolidation is needed. I've been updating my backup procedure and am trying to balance between identifying every little thing that doesn't need to be backed up and keeping it simple.
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