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[06:08:02] | jya: | I've found why rewinding / forwarding isn't working something. But can't understand why it's happening. When you rewind to another program, a flag is set in the livetvchain and when the event loop get to check it, it jumps to a new ProgramInfo. But very shortly after, the decoder thread calls the FileChangedCallback method, which reset it back to the ProgramInfo that was set just before... |
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[08:33:29] | stuartm: | dekarl: yeah, planning on doing that, although it actually occurred to me a little late that simply cropping is the wrong approach and probably wasn't the cause of the issue I'm seeing |
[08:33:55] | stuartm: | so I'll add filter support, but just for the deinterlacing |
[08:35:09] | stuartm: | dekarl: interesting, they don't translate titles? |
[08:35:46] | stuartm: | lot of broken icon links |
[08:35:58] | stuartm: | s/broken/missing/ |
[08:42:23] | toeb: | hi, is there a trick to display a mythuiscreentype ontop of a video in playback? I can create the screen but it is only shown after i leave videoplayback. |
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[09:37:19] | jya: | toeb: there are ways, but it's a bit tricky |
[09:37:53] | jya: | check the notification code, and how it is integrated with the OSD |
[09:38:42] | jya: | it's not simple, because depending on the playback renderer, you may have to recalculate completely all your dimensions. |
[09:39:00] | jya: | with openGL the dimension of the screens are the same as the GUI |
[09:39:21] | jya: | if using Qt / Xv; then the dimensions are those of the video being played |
[09:42:07] | toeb: | jya: i was already looking add the notificationcenter code but could not find anything different to my code. Didn't realize there is also code in the OSD decicated to the notification stuff.. |
[09:42:36] | jya: | yeah... took me a little while to find out why it wasn't showing during playback |
[09:42:49] | jya: | check OSD::DrawDirect |
[09:43:07] | jya: | and OSD::Draw |
[09:44:13] | jya: | I basically just plugged my drawing in there, right after the OSD elements |
[09:44:28] | jya: | the osd elements are all static, drawn always in the same order etc... |
[09:44:31] | jya: | it's rather messy |
[09:45:17] | toeb: | i see. |
[09:45:50] | toeb: | mh this is not possible without changes to mythtv itself :-( |
[09:45:55] | jya: | no |
[09:46:30] | jya: | but how could you have diplsyaed your screen without modifying mythtv anyway? |
[09:46:46] | toeb: | its a plugin |
[09:51:24] | toeb: | beeing not able to draw custom screens on top of playback is probably one reason why there are not so many plugins available for myth... are there any plans to make this possible? |
[09:52:00] | jya: | the notification is a mechanism provided to display custom content during playback |
[09:52:07] | jya: | can't you make use of it? |
[09:55:03] | toeb: | no i would like to interact with it |
[10:27:08] | stuarta: | definitely some issues to work through when using qt5 |
[10:27:27] | stuarta: | attempting to use the theme chooser crashes the frontend. oops.... |
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[11:33:35] | jya: | this liveTV stuff, is so fundamentally broken :( don't think it can be fixed without some major work... keep having work around and the more it goes , it more dodgy stuff I discovered... |
[11:36:36] | jya: | like the livetvchain is used for what's is currently being played. but it's also used by the decoder thread and the ringbuffer thread, almost independently of one another. so you set the current index in it when seeking, but the read ahead thread in the ringbuffer, can happen to decide he wants to start reading from the next segment. And so change the index. that's before the seek has completed. so when it's the turn of the seek code to do its thing, t |
[11:36:37] | jya: | index is all wrong. So you think you seek 30s forward, and it's actually 90s |
[11:37:58] | stuarta: | ugh, how horrible |
[11:39:33] | jya: | the decoder does the same thing... so the decoder thinks its reading from a particular position/timestamp, when the data fed is from elsewhere. So suddenly the player thinks there's massive A/V sync issue and drops frame. That's why sometimes when seeking, it starts stuttering like crazy for about 5–10s |
[11:40:45] | jya: | or I lock it all with a giant lock when I seek, until it has finished its work.... |
[11:41:04] | jya: | that damn current position index is used by too many threads... |
[11:43:17] | ** stuarta forgot to backup database before attemtpting channel rescan in prod. doh! ** | |
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[11:57:33] | stuartm: | hitting a similar issue with HLS, instead of appending to the playlist as each new segment is transcoding, it clears the file and writes everything all over again, of course if the player (flash or HTML) happens to read the file at that moment it will find nothing to play and stop |
[11:58:57] | stuartm: | this, and not the speed at which we transcode the intial segment is the reason why playback cannot be started immediately 9/10 when it requests updates to the playlist it's getting an empty or incomplete file |
[12:00:26] | stuartm: | the situation is eased if you let it transcode for a minute first since when it does read the playlist it's able to cache a minutes worth of segments to play instead of having to check the file every 10 seconds |
[12:04:44] | jya: | stuartm: great find... I've always wondered why is it it takes so much time for playback to start with HLS; when tools like AirVideo on the exact same hardware is instantaneous almost |
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[12:33:55] | stuarta: | that should be an easy fix |
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[13:11:56] | jya: | allright... seeking now works across the entire livetv chain .... now how to prevent those racing conditions ... |
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[14:36:17] | dekarl: | stuartm, its complicated :) The do carry localized titles (one per language, not per locale! So bad luck for french canadians, etc) but its not filled if the local title is the same as the original/international title. So you can never be sure if the localized title is missing or not... Did I already mention that I'd love to see a proper metadatabase? :p |
[14:39:05] | stuarta: | dekarl: i'd love to see EIT monkeys who are not incompetant and can type the same thing for the same show |
[14:39:43] | dekarl: | stuarta, I have a fix for that in the pipeline... though its on the three years from now timescale... |
[14:40:26] | dekarl: | basically scraping EIT into a website that allows users to manually connect it to a metadata database... similar to what tvbrowser does for some stations and oztivo does |
[14:40:50] | dekarl: | then send out the EIT times with the rest of the data from the metadata database |
[14:41:01] | stuarta: | intruiging idea |
[14:42:30] | dekarl: | see e.g. http://www.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/Guidedata/WebHome for the user documentation of their system |
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[15:55:45] | caelor: | thanks for those notes on qt5 stuarta – I'll set up a build VM presently, so I'll be in a position to test |
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[15:59:50] | dekarl: | and here's the link to CC licensed guide data and the tooling to get it into the guide (in german as the issue is mostly a german one) http://wiki.tvbrowser.org/index.php/WirSchauen |
[16:05:12] | stuarta: | caelor: so far i've found attempting to use the theme chooser crashes the frontend |
[16:05:23] | ** stuarta fetches cuppa ** | |
[16:05:52] | caelor: | well, things are expected to break occasionally. That's why we test :) |
[16:13:12] | stuartm: | seems I spoke too soon about the playlist issue, behaviour I was seeing was caused by two different transcode processes writing to the same playlist, not a flaw in the way the playlist is written (although it still seems inefficient) |
[16:16:48] | stuarta: | stuartm: it's a bug regardless |
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[17:43:05] | stuartm: | not sure whether I care enough to try and understand exactly how filtering with libav is supposed to work, may just copy/paste from their example and hope it works |
[17:44:07] | stuartm: | found a mailing list post from 2011 saying they were going to simplify it, but if the example in their docs is the new 'simple' version, I'd hate to have been using the old one |
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[19:05:29] | stuartm: | wow, Farnell would charge me £16 postage on something the size of a postage stamp (and worth just £3) |
[19:06:43] | wagnerrp: | farnell? |
[19:06:58] | stuartm: | UK electrical component retailer |
[19:27:05] | gigem: | I've been reviewing the latest, proposed patch for #11954. The two changes of substance are the saving of the input name to recorded and the display of the input name in program details. The majority of the patch is the addition of the input name to ProgramInfo. I'm thinking the addition to ProgramInfo is of dubious value and am leaning towards not using that part. Comments? |
[19:27:05] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11954 ** | |
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[20:08:30] | Bublik2002: | how does xbmc+tvheadend or mythtv as backend compare to a windows media center setup? I currently have a windows box that I use just as my pvr setup with extenders for tv recording and live tv but I wanted to get away from windows if at all possible |
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[20:43:58] | stuartm: | dekarl: so it seems we've always supported filters for hls/transcoding, I just wasn't seeing the option :/ |
[20:45:17] | stuartm: | still need to have it always deinterlacing interlaced source material, but that should be easier than I thought :) |
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[20:53:12] | stuartm: | and that's deinterlacing working ... |
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[22:39:23] | dekarl: | gigem_: \o/ |
[22:40:29] | dekarl: | hmm, prefDupMethod was added by stuartm for the locales and is still in use though |
[22:41:44] | dekarl: | see irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2014-02–24:18:50:40 |
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[22:47:24] | Bublik2002: | anyone switch from a windows media center pvr solution to mythtv? |
[22:50:13] | wagnerrp: | considering this is the mythtv development channel, i doubt anyone in here has done so recently |
[22:50:19] | wagnerrp: | you probably want #mythtv-users |
[22:50:32] | Bublik2002: | thank you |
[22:51:33] | gigem_: | dekarl: That commit shouldn't change anything. Once the default template is created, any old prefDupMethod would get overwritten anyway. The only thing that might not work, is the creation of the default template for completely new users starting with a clean DB. For that, stuartm's magic, locale setting will have to get saved before the DB update gets run. If that isn't the case or can't be done, we'll |
[22:51:35] | gigem_: | need to find some other way to fix up the default template the once and only once. |
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