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| [00:16:06] | clever: | gigem: that extra network copy could be prevented if you had a slave backend on the correct host, and picked the host right |
| [00:16:36] | clever: | but i know from my own setup, the recordings often dont stay on the host that recorded them, and the storage is often not in the same box as the capture device |
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| [05:18:02] | gigem: | dekarl: Right. The just needs to be moved to the old schema update where the default template is created. |
| [05:23:19] | gigem: | clever: The extra copy would still occur if the recordings were on a NAS or some other server that did not run a backend. BTW, I'm not arguing for or against always using direct access access when available, I'm just explaining the rationale as I remember it. |
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| [08:18:35] | jya: | something is dodgy with the livetvchain; every once in a while, I see an entry disappear. usually the first is dropped to. that makes it impossible to rewind |
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| [09:42:56] | stuartm: | jya: are the recordings being deleted? |
| [09:45:51] | ** stuarta yawns ** | |
| [09:48:14] | stuartm: | it looks like we don't prevent deletion of files in the chain as I originally thought we must |
| [09:49:43] | stuartm: | if we were short of space then obviously we'd have to, otherwise we shouldn't be doing it IMHO |
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| [11:27:43] | jya: | stuartm: I haven't looked in details yet. I'm reworking the Rewind command. Though if you remember, last time I was surprised to see that a recording I was currently watching (part of tvchain) got deleted |
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| [11:29:10] | jya: | I've actually not seen any livetvchain being created on the backend. The backend sends a "new recording" message to the frontend, which is the one building the livetvchain |
| [11:29:41] | jya: | maybe I'm misreading, but I put heaps of logs in livetvchain, and those logs never appear when the backend is running |
| [11:32:12] | stuarta: | is it just me or does that not make sense? shouldn't the backend be building the livetv chain? |
| [11:33:38] | stuartm: | don't think it matters who builds it, possibly faster for the frontend, but it's all written to the database where anyone (fe, be, sbe) can read it |
| [11:34:43] | stuartm: | the deletion code does actually check if the recording is in the chain, but only so it can remove the entry from the chain table – it should be refusing deletion for current chain entries |
| [11:35:18] | stuartm: | at least those from the last ~60–120 minutes (would anyone want to jump back further? |
| [11:35:19] | stuartm: | ) |
| [11:35:57] | stuarta: | sport |
| [11:36:22] | jya: | stuarta: whenever the recorder get to a new program, it sends a BACKEND_MESSAGE event |
| [11:36:22] | jya: | with a new program |
| [11:36:22] | jya: | but I'm getting there... trying to find a way to get Rewind to works with times rather than framecount |
| [11:36:22] | jya: | or more accurately, try to find a way so the routine can still work with frame numbers, *and* with duration |
| [11:36:33] | jya: | in any case, rewind/forward in live TV is just broken. There's no way it ever worked. At best it goest to the previous program, 15s before the end of it. |
| [11:36:38] | jya: | doesn't matter how much you rewind etc... |
| [11:37:34] | jya: | the livetvchain is written in the DB... I have to check later if either the DB entry is wrong (which is why some programs just disappear) or if it's the frontend that isn't building it properly |
| [11:38:24] | jya: | stuartm: problem isn't just much about how much you can rewind. But say you pressed pause for a while. Now you want to go back to live... You will not make it further than one recording at a time |
| [11:38:35] | jya: | can't do say 20 RightArriw |
| [11:39:21] | jya: | can the cutlist exist/be created while watching live TV? |
| [11:39:42] | jya: | say the user as made the settings to jump cutlist automatically |
| [11:40:03] | jya: | can it happen if you paused liveTV and press play later that a cutlist has been built and as such have to be respected? |
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| [12:31:21] | stuarta: | fixing these qt5 build issues is such fun :) |
| [12:32:44] | stuarta: | ugh, i need better io capacity on my host machine, i've got 6/8 cores stuck waiting for io |
| [12:35:44] | stuarta: | however i don't think my budget extends to a mini san :-( |
| [12:45:36] | jya: | something is really dodgy in the handling of the livetvchain... after 3 minutes of 1 minute programs, I have entry 0, 1,2 ... |
| [12:45:45] | jya: | after 5 minutes, I have 2, 3, 4 5 |
| [12:45:49] | jya: | 0 and 1 disappeared |
| [12:46:34] | stuarta: | iirc short programs are expired quickly |
| [12:46:39] | jya: | sometimes playback starts at entry 1, sometimes at entry 2 |
| [12:47:23] | jya: | how is the frontend supposed to properly handle transition then? |
| [12:47:30] | jya: | then I was at entry 1 |
| [12:47:33] | jya: | pressed pause |
| [12:47:42] | jya: | the backend continues recording |
| [12:48:04] | stuarta: | that's just mental |
| [12:48:20] | jya: | unpause on the frontend, you arrive at the end of the current program, and you suddenly jump to the last one |
| [12:48:33] | jya: | that's an example... |
| [12:49:29] | jya: | It has happened many times that my wife was watching something. live TV which is the beginning of a program, but with all the TV program dodginess, you're still at the end of the previous program |
| [12:50:06] | jya: | she goes and put the kid to bed. comes back, press unpause, and 2 minutes later, bang it jumps forward like crazy, can't go back the recording doesn't exist anymore |
| [12:50:38] | jya: | I reported a bug a long time ago about this... that after a long pause, you often lose track of where you were, or you can't rewind/FF |
| [12:54:44] | jya: | that's the tvchain 30s from two runs appart |
| [12:54:45] | jya: | http://pastebin.com/ccgciTGu |
| [12:56:38] | jya: | another run: http://pastebin.com/xmr9yPXc |
| [12:57:18] | jya: | we go from entry 0,1,2,3 -> 1,2,3,4 -> 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 |
| [13:09:41] | ** stuarta senses a rewrite in the near future ** | |
| [13:14:35] | jya: | luckily the great extension of in-line comment help the matter greatly |
| [13:16:08] | jya: | ah..// I was wondering why all my duration were off by 4 minutes. |
| [13:16:21] | jya: | that's the time difference between the backend and frontend... |
| [13:17:58] | jya: | that broke my rewind ... wonder how I can get around that problem .. like I try to rewind 1 minutes, it thinks the current program is 4 minutes long, so it stays in the current program, when really it's only 3 minutes long. |
| [13:18:06] | jya: | 1 minute long i mean |
| [13:18:10] | jya: | hmmmmmm |
| [13:18:34] | jya: | would need something that sync the time between backend and frontend at start and use that as time reference |
| [13:45:24] | stuarta: | i thought we already had some code for that? |
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| [14:21:13] | jya: | allright.. can rewind in liveTv more than one program at a time |
| [14:21:51] | stuarta: | \o/ |
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| [14:31:01] | jya: | allright.. xcode crashing once again... off to bed |
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| [15:33:19] | stuarta: | \o/ victory |
| [15:56:19] | MythBuild: | build #3 of 0.27-f20-qt5–64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . bit/builds/3 |
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| [16:15:24] | stuarta: | \o/ victory number 2 |
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| [20:02:41] | caelor: | stuarta: is it just qt5-qtbase-devel that you needed for f20? I'm in the process of moving to F20 based backend/frontends, so could (hopefully soon) help with testing |
| [20:09:09] | stuarta: | caelor: lemme pastebin it |
| [20:10:37] | stuarta: | caelor: http://fpaste.org/80350/33590271/ |
| [20:14:21] | ** stuarta runs off again ** | |
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| [22:45:35] | stuartm: | any suggestions for cropping the last 8 lines from video with ffmpeg? Is the 'Crop' filter the best or only approach? |
| [22:49:08] | stuartm: | can't see where we're doing it for video playback, but suspect that we're not using libav for the cropping but doing it at the point of display |
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| [23:05:10] | stuartm: | nm, hadn't thought that all the way through |
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| [23:29:53] | dekarl1: | stuartm, should you add filter pipelines to the hls profiles, then we can add a deinterlacer to the pipeline, too. |
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| [23:37:17] | dekarl: | stuartm, http://picpaste.de/Bildschirmfoto-4jXlMrlN.png notice the Thai title :) |
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