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Saturday, February 22nd, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:30] clever: a simpler change that would waste a bit more cpu time, just stat the file every 10 or 20 reads
[00:00:56] jya_: i do that already are every read now
[00:01:03] clever: ah
[00:01:23] jya_: so we don't attempt to read past the end of file, this cause significant delay from time to time
[00:02:08] clever: i was thinking you could save the filesize from the last few stats, and measure how much it has grown in the last 30 seconds
[00:02:21] clever: and if it stops growing, then you just stop waiting for it to grow
[00:02:40] clever: and make sure the backend syncs it more often then the window you measure over
[00:02:53] jya_: you're back to the original problem of having to wait to see if a file is growing
[00:02:58] jya_: and how long you wait to check
[00:03:07] clever: so if it stops recording atleast 30 seconds ahead of your play position, you will see the stop
[00:03:38] clever: yeah, thats why i was thinking something purely event based, directly over the myth proto, would be best
[00:03:44] jya_: useless for liveTV... you're near 30s ; you're reading pretty much just as the file is being written
[00:04:01] jya_: s/near/nowhere
[00:04:09] ** jya_ damm mac autocorrection **
[00:04:21] clever: you know the option to always stream over the network protocol?
[00:05:14] clever: could it be modified to always stream an in-progress recording?, look it up when you start, and pass a flag to the constructor of the ringbuffer
[00:05:26] jya_: i do... which is disabled by default, setting isn't visible, and currently doesn't work
[00:06:10] clever: ah, things have changed since i last used myth
[00:06:24] jya_: hmm... that's an interesting approach...
[00:06:31] jya_: clever: that was done a while ago
[00:06:35] jya_: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8101
[00:06:40] jya_: 4 years ago :)
[00:06:50] clever: ive not needed it for that long
[00:06:57] clever: ditched the b band wifi and P2 frontend long ago
[00:08:43] jya_: so how do I check if a recording is in progress now :)
[00:08:53] clever: database?, master backend?
[00:09:08] clever: dont remember where myth holds that status
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[00:51:17] jya_: wonder if we could simply use locking in TFW, and test the lock . but i don't think locking works over nfs
[00:54:18] jya_: right: reading http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/locking.html , means there's no much point
[00:56:39] jya_: [26011]
[00:56:39] MythLogBot: SVN 26011: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/85a92d1f
[01:00:56] jya_: can you stream data from a secondary backend, or will it always be from a master one?
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[02:27:56] MythBuild: build #2785 of cppcheck-master is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/cppc . . . /builds/2785
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[07:01:24] jya_: Captain_Murdoch: was just revisiting the sync thread in TFW... There's a big lock around the sync() ... Once it has the lock, nothing can be done in the write thread.. So really, it serves *zero* purpose to have a separate thread doing so. If sync takes a long time to flush data to the disk, there's no new write regardless
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[08:38:42] stuartm: dblain_: is the http server meant to be HTTP 1.1 compliant or just HTTP 1.0?
[08:49:49] stuartm: dblain_: reason I ask is because HTTP 1.1 requires that servers issue a 404 if the Host header is missing or empty, I'll add this check conditional on m_nMinor = 1
[08:54:49] stuartm: s/404/400/
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[11:35:50] stuartm: heh, this apparently is the documentation for libavcodec – http://ffmpeg.org/libavcodec.html
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[11:51:38] jya_: cool, very well done too... ready to start coding using it :)
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[12:05:47] stuartm: they have some doxygen documentation hidden away elsewhere, but that's the 'documention' they link prominently from the main page etc
[12:06:13] stuartm: spectacularly useless :)
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[12:17:54] dekarl: is that the manpage of libavcoded converted to html?
[12:20:34] dekarl: Ahh Texinfo is everything but manpages... I see
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[12:42:16] jya_: how often are the MythEvent sent over the control socket?
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[13:15:21] stuartm: they should never been sent over the control socket, they should go via the dedicated event socket
[13:17:15] stuartm: and they go as the event is sent, they aren't delivered on a schedule but immediately – the volume of events all depends on the circumstances, recording file size events are perhaps the mostly regular of all events although I don't know the exact timing offhand
[13:19:33] stuartm: jya_: ^^
[13:19:56] jya_: event socket i meant then :)
[13:45:51] jya_: stuartm: the event is sent only to other frontends or/and also other slave backends?
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[14:19:16] stuartm: jya_: only to frontends, slave backends don't open an event socket – they should, but for some reason they don't atm
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[15:02:49] jya: people complaining about metadata being downloaded for recordings despite settings.
[15:02:49] jya: answer: In mythFE navigate to Manage Recordings / Recording Rules / scroll down to Default (Template) / press enter / select post processing / unselect 'automatically look up metadata'.
[15:02:49] jya: how is anyone ever supposed to remember (or find) this...
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[15:06:30] caelor: I'm progressively getting ready to set up a compilation environment to run master. For single machine devel it's fairly obvious, but does any dev have any hints on building for quick deployment across an infrastructure (1 slave BE, multiple frontends)?
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