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[02:06:25] | skd5aner: | stuartm: can we get a "quick reply" feature for the forums rather than forcing people to click the "reply" button? Not sure if this is as simple as a setting, or a mod would be required. |
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[02:23:01] | skd5aner: | hmmm, looks like it'd be a mod : |
[02:23:03] | skd5aner: | :/ |
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[03:16:57] | skd5aner: | stuartm: perhaps it'd be a good idea to replace this old thing (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mythtv-contractors) with a subforum on the forums as well... not sure it makes sense to keep it disjointed in google groups – it's probably mostly forgotten there |
[03:17:43] | skd5aner: | and, people don't even know it exists probably to begin with :) |
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[05:06:03] | jya: | I still think it would be nice to have a sub-forum in regards to troubleshooting / reporting fault.. |
[05:06:12] | jya: | or where do you expect to see those in the forum? |
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[08:14:49] | stuartm: | skd5aner: thought I'd enabled quick reply |
[08:15:49] | stuartm: | skd5aner: good idea (re google group), although I'm not sure who set that up and therefore who can take it down again |
[08:16:39] | stuartm: | jya: a forum for discussing faults, or reporting them? |
[08:16:48] | jya: | both |
[08:17:35] | stuartm: | wouldn't that just duplicate trac? (reporting) |
[08:17:54] | stuartm: | happy to have a troubleshooting forum |
[08:18:06] | jya: | except that everytime there's a discussion in trac, the bug is locked . |
[08:18:16] | jya: | cause we don't want me too etc... |
[08:18:24] | jya: | personally, I like knwing about me to... |
[08:18:33] | stuartm: | right, discussion/troubleshooting in the forum, reporting in trac |
[08:18:48] | jya: | gives an idea on how many people are affected |
[08:19:18] | stuartm: | we were going to add a 'vote' plugin to trac at one point, not sure why it didn't happen |
[08:19:57] | jya: | oh, yes... to me it would go and start discussing in the problem, and if confirmed then trac |
[08:20:02] | jya: | can follow up on trac too |
[08:21:12] | jya: | if you look at the freenas forum |
[08:21:16] | jya: | they have a forum for help |
[08:21:34] | jya: | a forum for hardware related stuff |
[08:21:41] | jya: | a forum for announcement |
[08:22:01] | jya: | though that last one could just a sticky in the general |
[08:22:15] | jya: | http://forums.freenas.org/index.php |
[08:22:16] | stuartm: | skd5aner: no mod is required for the quick reply, but it seems I need to enable it per-forum |
[08:22:41] | jya: | i like quick reply |
[08:22:42] | stuartm: | jya: we have a forum for announcement and a forum for hardware |
[08:23:08] | jya: | I see ok |
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[08:25:20] | stuartm: | will add a 'troubleshooting' forum |
[08:27:06] | stuartm: | skd5aner: enabled quick-reply on the first ~12 forums, run out of time to do the rest now, will get to them later |
[08:55:46] | jya: | any plan to add the tapatalk stuff? |
[08:58:13] | jya: | wonder what I'm doing wrong... When I open a RemoteFile with a myth:// URL, I get no failure of anykind, but in the backend log is see: "E ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:1408 (HandleAnnounce) Received malformed ANN Playback query" |
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[09:28:23] | jya: | ok, fixed that... was a matter of not having MythContext initialised properly. |
[09:28:56] | jya: | the RemoteFile is really not that great when it comes to write small packets at a time (the recorder typically writes 188 bytes) at a time |
[09:29:11] | jya: | using 65k block, I get 120MB/s; with 188 block: 0.4MB/s |
[09:31:16] | stuarta: | morning all |
[09:32:16] | stuarta: | jya: stuartm how about putting into trac links to the forum saying discuss this here? |
[09:32:58] | stuarta: | jya: stuartm added tapatalk yesterday |
[09:33:52] | jya: | has he? |
[09:33:53] | jya: | cool |
[09:40:59] | jya: | works well |
[09:44:34] | stuarta: | cool |
[09:48:43] | stuartm: | gravity is already out on blu-ray? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35 |
[09:49:20] | stuartm: | Amazon says no :) |
[09:50:33] | jya: | BD rip certainly already exist if you see what I mean |
[09:51:30] | jya: | February 25th |
[09:52:22] | jya: | I don't see how the guy could achieve whatever he wishes to do... |
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[11:33:10] | stuartm: | jya: did you find that the mythtv logo was stretched in tapatalk? |
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[12:02:22] | wagnerrp: | wiki is broken |
[12:02:43] | wagnerrp: | whole site is broken |
[12:02:59] | wagnerrp: | well... trac works |
[12:04:00] | stuartm: | stuarta: may be working on it atm, he's making the necessary changes to switch from apache to nginx |
[12:07:11] | stuarta: | hmmm wiki shouldn't be |
[12:07:30] | ** stuarta backs out changes ** | |
[12:10:30] | ** stuarta punches apache. you have your old config back, now work like you used to ** | |
[12:10:41] | stuarta: | now it's all broken |
[12:12:12] | stuarta: | wtf?? |
[12:12:31] | stuarta: | i fecking hate apache |
[12:15:12] | stuarta: | right i think it's the overlapping virtualhost defaults that's the problem. i fixed this on the dev instance, now what did i do |
[12:18:24] | stuarta: | fixed |
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[12:21:54] | stuarta: | stuartm: fyi in mythtv.conf we had <VirtualHost *> which is wrong, it needs to be <VirtualHost *:80> otherwise we get those overlapping default server errors |
[12:22:34] | stuartm: | stuarta: strange, I've already fixed that twice ... wonder if the publish script is overwriting it? |
[12:22:55] | stuartm: | hmm, probably is now that I think about it ... |
[12:23:10] | stuartm: | wonder what other changes it's overwritten :/ |
[12:24:15] | stuartm: | ok, so any changes need to be made to mythtv.conf.apache in the www repo if they are to 'stick' |
[12:24:42] | stuartm: | no wonder the docs/ link keeps being broken |
[12:25:04] | stuartm: | or used to |
[12:25:37] | stuartm: | getting the feeling I've already had this same realisation at some point in the past, but then forgotten it again :( |
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[12:25:48] | stuarta: | stuartm: just pushed the change to the repo |
[12:26:35] | stuartm: | the GA change will need to be committed too |
[12:26:58] | stuarta: | lucky i haven't done that yet :) |
[12:27:28] | stuarta: | only for forum, and we haven't pushed that to a repo yet |
[12:42:05] | wagnerrp: | stuarta: thanks |
[12:46:52] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: thanks for spotting |
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[14:42:32] | stuartm: | being unable to upload huge avatars is NOT a bug |
[14:42:53] | stuarta: | it's a feature |
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[14:46:42] | wagnerrp_: | why do people think large signatures are something desireable? |
[14:47:30] | stuartm: | can't understand why anyone would want one bigger than 90x90, that's already pretty large – can only get 3 posts on my 1920x1080 monitor because the avatar takes up more space than the post text in most cases |
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[14:49:16] | stuartm: | and same for signatures – Martin Scharnke in that same thread has managed to fit his full name, location, hardware and software information in that 125 char limit – that's more than enough |
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[14:49:56] | stuartm: | and since location can actually be included in your profile, he could remove the location from his sig and have characters to spare |
[14:50:14] | stuartm: | we don't need people's life stories in their sigs |
[14:51:02] | jheizer_: | That's a very offical Sig |
[14:51:06] | stuartm: | nor do we really need sigs at all, profile covers most of it – website, location, name, age, etc |
[14:51:51] | jheizer_: | CSS suggestion that may vary based on wide monitors |
[14:51:56] | stuartm: | we can add custom fields to the profile for people to list their tuners and mythtv version if that's what people want |
[14:52:03] | jheizer_: | float right the avatar's link tag |
[14:52:30] | jheizer_: | not sure how the carry over to mobile would go though |
[14:53:11] | stuartm: | jheizer_: yeah, there's some wasted space there, but I'd have to experiment with it and I don't have the time atm |
[14:55:23] | stuartm: | on the other hand, everyone has the option to hide signatures entirely, but since it's not the default and you have to go looking for the setting I'd still prefer to limit signature size |
[14:57:43] | stuartm: | arguing about the size of avatars and the length of signatures is the sort of silliness that people have come to expect from forums, and is one of the main reasons we've not had one until now |
[14:58:41] | stuartm: | people tend to be more sensible (well that was the theory) on mailing lists – clearly that theory has been shot to pieces by recent behaviour on the lists :/ |
[14:59:33] | jheizer_: | No problem. Just a suggestiong. |
[14:59:36] | stuartm: | skd5aner: we should draw up some forum specific rules, we can draw on the rules from the mailing list for inspiration |
[14:59:46] | stuartm: | jheizer_: wasn't referring to your comment |
[15:00:06] | stuartm: | well except when I was specifically addressing you :) |
[15:00:19] | jheizer_: | Yeah, I was just slow to reply. |
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[15:55:04] | stuartm: | added custom BBCode for Commit and Ticket links |
[15:55:29] | stuartm: | no obligation to use them, but thought they might be useful |
[15:55:58] | stuartm: | especially since we can change which website they point to at any time without breaking old posts |
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[17:38:37] | dekarl: | stuarta, hmm. many news site automatically generate a forum topic per news item, we might do the same for trac tickets. Basically add a dedicated subforum only for trac ticket discussion with an automatically generated topic per ticket and add links to the topics on each ticket. |
[17:39:05] | dekarl: | do we have the xmlrpc plugin enabled on trac? I'd like the bot to add the title of tickets to its reply, but I'm not sure how to do that best |
[17:41:06] | dekarl: | stuartm, he could also link to its profile on Smolt and leave the hardware out ;) |
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[22:39:53] | skd5aner: | why was this thread locked? https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=25 |
[22:40:40] | skd5aner: | I don't think we should be locking threads unless there's actually a decent reason to do so... just because someone claims that they've fixed a problem, in my opinion, doesn't warrant that we lock the thread... if someone else has something useful to add, let them do so |
[22:40:56] | skd5aner: | unless there's an objection, I'm going to unlock it – please feel free to re-lock if someone feels extremely strongly about it |
[22:41:24] | skd5aner: | to me, locking a topic seems heavy handed and can send the wrong message, and it's not like we're having thousands of topics a day that flood the boards |
[22:46:41] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I've got some additional ideas for the forum, but I know you've probably already spent way more time than you'd like working on it, and not sure you really want to "over do" it either... |
[22:48:03] | skd5aner: | stuartm: what are your thoughts on a "karma" like mod? I've never personally used them in the forums I've ran, but they are popular in other large forums, particularly to develop trust amongst helpful contributors... |
[22:48:51] | skd5aner: | That way, people know if someone who is responding is actually a trusted member who has contributed helpful contributions in the past... |
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[23:33:47] | jya: | stuartm: can't say I've noticed anything wrong with the logo... |
[23:34:15] | jya: | what I like best in tapatalk is the flat view of all unread messages |
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[23:56:38] | jya: | what's the point in TFW to have a third thread doing the sync ? |
[23:56:48] | jya: | why not just do the sync right after we write our buffer |
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