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| [00:02:26] | stuartm: | dekarl: well maybe now, in the past it didn't |
| [00:03:06] | stuartm: | not sure whether the alt titles are handled |
| [00:03:33] | MartinT: | I've just added an overload to allow the code to overwrite it... |
| [00:03:59] | MartinT: | then I'll add an option on the api to overwrite with the return results... |
| [00:04:12] | MartinT: | or something like that... a job for the weekend... |
| [00:06:50] | MartinT: | laterz |
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| [07:08:40] | dekarl: | tgm4883: superm1 looks like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS will not get 0.28 when its release due to libva being MIA since 2013-06–04... https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/mas . . . uild/4642413 Is it coming back or can the build be disabled? |
| [07:10:03] | dekarl: | and lately I can't build anymore with nvidia drivers installed (that's why I started to look at the build), looks like we link to the wrong opengl libs now: dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/nvidia-304/libGL.so.1 (used by debian/libmyth-0.28–0/usr/lib/libmythui-0.28.so.0.28.0). |
| [07:10:14] | dekarl: | ^- regarding building packages |
| [07:11:28] | superm1: | dekarl: i tried to revive the libva build but it was more work than it was worth for an old LTS like that |
| [07:11:30] | dekarl: | "the internet" hints that just removing the nvidia driver will do. But that appears to also remove the vdpau libs which we depend on :/ |
| [07:11:58] | superm1: | is that problem with the nvidia driver new? |
| [07:14:50] | dekarl: | for some definitions of "new". I have not updated mythtv since around christmas. so the last build was around then. I did update the base packages around that time, so "they" may have changed something |
| [07:15:12] | dekarl: | that all being on 12.04 LTS |
| [07:15:25] | superm1: | but seemingly at some point you were able to build a package with an nvidia driver installed before then |
| [07:15:32] | dekarl: | aye |
| [07:19:04] | superm1: | can you check your apt logs between then and see if anything new nvidia is installed? say some dev package or something |
| [07:19:12] | superm1: | or removed |
| [07:20:56] | dekarl: | the update of the base packages appears to have been on the 25th |
| [07:20:58] | superm1: | internets says you can do this to fix it: |
| [07:21:01] | superm1: | dh_shlibdeps --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info |
| [07:21:04] | superm1: | in the call in debian/rules |
| [07:21:30] | superm1: | but that's assuming there actually was call to dh_shlibdeps |
| [07:21:36] | superm1: | with dh7 it's assumed and happens automagically |
| [07:21:50] | superm1: | so try setting this before your build: export DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ARGS_ALL=--dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info |
| [07:21:59] | dekarl: | Found that too, appeared like a workaround to get a local build going, but not a proper fix. But I could not find a guide on "how to properly package opengl apps for debian/ubuntu" |
| [07:22:15] | dekarl: | hmm, so that became the new default? I'll just add it then |
| [07:23:26] | dekarl: | and yes on the 25th there was an update to the nvidia package |
| [07:24:10] | superm1: | well in general stuff built on PPA's and buildd's doesn't have the closed source nvidia driver installed during build |
| [07:24:18] | superm1: | so a local fix might be more appropriate here |
| [07:24:40] | superm1: | heck we could even set up something to add that to args of the build script if we detect dpkg -l | grep nvidia-driver-blah or something |
| [07:27:24] | dekarl: | makes sense. Ok building now, not sure if it finishes before I got to leave for work. Thanks for looking into it |
| [07:27:41] | superm1: | sure |
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| [09:00:03] | stuarta: | seriously, when you try to do an rsync of content. make sure not to leave the leading / off, otherwise you fill your home directory. me-- |
| [09:00:28] | ** stuarta sighs and goes for a cuppa ** | |
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| [12:00:50] | stuartm: | stuarta: I'm always leaving off the trailing / or adding it when I shouldn't have resulting in me copying everything to the wrong place or the directory instead of it's contents |
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| [12:02:49] | stuarta: | that bit i don't have a problem with. i just always use a tailing / |
| [12:03:04] | stuarta: | in this case i did src:/opt/ opt/ |
| [12:03:06] | stuarta: | doh! |
| [12:03:17] | stuarta: | meant src:/opt/ /opt/ |
| [12:03:28] | stuarta: | ENOSPACE |
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| [12:49:34] | stuartm: | can't seem to find a decent combobox plugin for jquery :/ |
| [12:51:00] | stuarta: | :( i like jQuery |
| [12:54:49] | stuartm: | it'll take a little more work but I'll just have to create something myself |
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| [13:55:15] | paul-h: | stuartm: displaying images stored on a slave BE should work in MythUIImage? |
| [13:55:47] | paul-h: | when uisng a myth:// url that is |
| [13:58:14] | jheizer: | stuartm: Not sure exactly what your combobox requirements are, but here is one I mashed together for desktop and mobile usage. https://github.com/jheizer/jquery-selectbox-touch-iscroll-vis |
| [13:58:16] | jheizer: | Not to toot my own horn, I just ran into the same problem that none were feature complete for my usage. |
| [14:00:42] | stuartm: | paul-h: yes |
| [14:01:04] | stuartm: | paul-h: it _should_ work, but I've never had a slave backend to test with |
| [14:01:50] | paul-h: | OK there is something not working somewhere then |
| [14:03:13] | stuartm: | paul-h: it uses RemoteFile |
| [14:03:50] | stuartm: | jheizer: looking for something that lets you both type in a search term or select from a list in one widget |
| [14:05:43] | jheizer: | I believe the selectbox I started with could do that. |
| [14:06:01] | jheizer: | Of course their website is down right now so you wouldn't come across that one. |
| [14:06:37] | jheizer: | But that wasn't a required feature for me so I am not sure. |
| [14:06:51] | jheizer: | I will agree that they almost all sucked. |
| [14:07:47] | paul-h: | stuartm: I see the problem RemoteFile::Exists() only looks on the master BE so the images will never be found in MythImage::Load() if they are on a slave |
| [14:08:16] | stuartm: | even those I've found that come close ruin it by requiring the options to be specified in javascript – they assume a static list |
| [14:09:32] | stuartm: | paul-h: has the music import been converted to write to a storage group yet? |
| [14:10:03] | paul-h: | Not yet no |
| [14:10:48] | jheizer: | Yuup. The one I used overlays an existing selectbox but replacing it. So you can init/modify the underlying. I believe it could do json service calls to load a well but I don't see that skimming my version. |
| [14:12:14] | jheizer: | There it came to life: http://www.bulgaria-web-developers.com/projec . . . t/selectbox/ |
| [14:12:15] | stuartm: | ok thanks, just wondering as I'm clearing some files off an old disk and I'd found a couple of label samplers than I'd never imported :) |
| [14:15:13] | jheizer: | I guess this one did not have the async loading. Basically all my forked version does is add iScroll so a mobile device can fingre scroll the drop down instead instead of it auto sizing to all items visible. |
| [14:15:25] | paul-h: | I have a whole weekend to work on Myth so I hope to get most it completed but things don't always work to plan :) |
| [14:18:31] | stuartm: | jheizer: not exactly what I had in mind, which is a combination select box and text input – like this one: http://www.dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/form_widg . . . _select.html |
| [14:18:53] | jheizer: | yeah |
| [14:19:04] | jheizer: | Stupid me forgot to check the docs for that one it opened. |
| [14:21:07] | jheizer: | I swore that was there and I had just removed it to make mine simpler. Carry on. |
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| [14:28:38] | stuartm: | np, I put something together easily enough, I've done it before and there are examples such as the one I linked above from which I can take pointers |
| [14:29:11] | stuartm: | it would have just saved a lot of time if there had been something I could just drop in |
| [14:32:48] | stuartm: | ooh, this might be the one I was looking for – http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/web/combobox/index.html |
| [14:33:35] | stuartm: | shame that the html 5 datalist stuff doesn't behave the same way, native widget behaviour tends to be more predictable and fast |
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| [14:38:28] | jheizer: | Funny how something we see as so basic can be so hard to find. |
| [14:39:01] | jheizer: | And that there is not a good recognized standard one hanging out there easy to find. |
| [14:42:25] | stuartm: | yeah, I was surprised just how hard it was – isn't a combobox a pretty standard widget, used by many applications? So why isn't there a version in HTML? |
| [14:45:40] | jheizer: | Wait wait wait. http://jqueryui.com/autocomplete/#combobox |
| [14:46:08] | jheizer: | I totally forgot to check jquery UI |
| [14:49:13] | sphery: | hehe, the "MythWeb" thread on -dev list got rolled up into a 2002 and 2008 thread on gossamer... stupid subject-based threading |
| [14:50:30] | sphery: | makes it really hard to figure out where the thread started (especially since it's a "was: " thread, and the original "Any interest in a mythweb listings by channel group patch?" portion of the thread is not even linked to it |
| [14:57:03] | paul-h: | I nearly replied saying due to security concerns we've decided to remove both MythWeb and MythWebFronted and make them dev only features just a really stir things up :) |
| [14:59:46] | jheizer: | BWhahaha. Do IT! |
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| [15:04:02] | stuarta: | haha |
| [15:05:37] | sphery: | hehe |
| [15:07:08] | sphery: | Yeah, for years, you've been able to set user jobs or miscellaneous status scripts which run any command on the system as the user running mythbackend, but for some reason, people are afraid bad guys will crack their systems using much-more-difficult approaches... |
| [15:07:46] | sphery: | oh, and you can set the backup script--and run it on demand, too |
| [15:08:12] | sphery: | lots of ways to do things once you're in any web frontend for mythtv |
| [15:09:22] | stuarta: | i'm surprised nobody has suggested trying to google for peoples mythweb installs |
| [15:10:04] | sphery: | you won't find much of any, today (though Gary did mention it was possible) |
| [15:10:07] | jheizer: | I tried to be safe in MobileMyth. I mean yes if you log in you can delete them, etc, but white list what gets proxied, etc. Sure there are wholes though. |
| [15:10:42] | sphery: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11958#comment:1 |
| [15:12:27] | sphery: | "directed queries on a couple of the major search engines provide no results showing open MythWeb sites (for all practical purposes--I found one that seems to be an old one as the site no longer exists)" |
| [15:12:40] | sphery: | I do think we should close that ticket wontfix |
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| [15:40:11] | dekarl-work: | wagnerrp: fyi tmdb television is broken for everyone who does not use the english language |
| [15:41:42] | dekarl-work: | e.g. this very famous german child series, notice that it has lots of seasons, but not a single episode http://www.themoviedb.org/tv/46129-l-wenzahn?language=en |
| [15:42:30] | dekarl-work: | and here is the german data that they chose not to import http://thetvdb.com/?tab=seasonall&id=84829&lid=14 |
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| [16:09:27] | tgm4883: | superm1, dekarl1 10.04 shouldn't get 0.27 anyway (it doesn't have 0.26 either I believe) |
| [16:09:55] | tgm4883: | yea our graphic says it got 0.25 and that was it http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [16:10:12] | tgm4883: | which is pretty much our policy, although I believe that was for technical reasons (0.26 wouldn't build on 10.04) |
| [16:12:09] | dekarl-work: | tgm4883: yes, I looked at the graphic and noticed that 10.04 got way more then promised, so thats cool. |
| [16:12:47] | dekarl-work: | But it also reminded me that 14.04 is approaching fast :) http://code.mythtv.org/trac/milestone/0.28 says we want to release in about 6 weeks... |
| [16:16:22] | dekarl-work: | hmm, can we create a report "has an attachment named *diff or *patch but is not in one of the three patch – * buckets"? just stumbled upon one around http://code.mythtv.org/trac/query?owner=danie . . . lestone=0.28 |
| [16:16:29] | dekarl-work: | #11306 |
| [16:16:29] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11306 ** | |
| [16:17:10] | tgm4883: | dekarl-work, is 0.28 really looking at a release in 6 weeks? |
| [16:17:26] | stuartm: | no |
| [16:17:50] | tgm4883: | ok |
| [16:18:04] | dekarl-work: | i was just quoting from a random value written on a website... it happened to fit into the timeline for 14.04, but I don't think that we are actively working towards it |
| [16:18:17] | tgm4883: | Good, as that would become problematic for us and I hadn't heard anything about it |
| [16:18:46] | dekarl-work: | well... it was the plan some months ago |
| [16:18:52] | stuartm: | that was a provisional date, assuming everyone was able to devote the time they expected to have, I wouldn't say we're 6 months from a release but it's more than 6 weeks |
| [16:19:22] | tgm4883: | well unless someone wants to do an RC in the next month, it's not hitting 14.04 |
| [16:20:07] | dekarl-work: | I have no problem with changing that plan. But I'd like to see MythBubuntu 12.04 come with a good out of the box experience |
| [16:20:42] | dekarl-work: | Need to look at what got broken, and not fixed yet, in 0.27 (RTP IPTV comes to mind) |
| [16:20:46] | stuartm: | the good news is that we've got a reasonable idea of exactly what features will be targeted for the next release, which doesn't happen too often, but they all need work and then a 3–4 beta/rc period |
| [16:21:31] | stuartm: | 3–4 week |
| [16:22:31] | dekarl-work: | skd5aner: seen #11306 ? |
| [16:22:31] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11306 ** | |
| [16:22:37] | stuartm: | it's a shame to miss the Ubuntu release, but we've never really been in sync with it to begin with |
| [16:22:40] | stuarta: | i need to kill of the f18 builder now. it's EOL |
| [16:23:47] | dekarl-work: | anybody got a SBE to test the patch and willing to handle it? |
| [16:24:04] | dekarl-work: | ^- the "master dumps core when slave disconnects" issue |
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| [16:32:23] | stuartm: | dekarl-work: I think that's the patch I had skd5aner test, it didn't unfortunately fix his crashes, but he didn't mention any new problems |
| [16:33:26] | stuartm: | maybe not the best test bed though, since his backend is crashing so frequently that it's not up to experience the slave disconnect crash |
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| [16:43:14] | superm1: | i don't think missing ubuntu releases is as big of a deal as it was in the past since the PPA autobuilder system works pretty well in general for people now |
| [16:44:56] | jheizer: | I've had a new slave backend running for 3 months now with w HD-PVR and not had a single crash/issue. |
| [16:45:00] | stuartm: | superm1: there's still a percentage of people who don't know about the PPA and are therefore stuck with the release version, bugs and all |
| [16:45:37] | jheizer: | Had been keeping an eye out to compare notes with skd5aner, but no [bad] luck. |
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| [16:46:53] | stuartm: | jheizer: starting to think skd5aner's problems are connected to his very slow reschedules and mythfilldatabase runs, something isn't right with those |
| [16:48:07] | jheizer: | stuartm, yeah, I could not compare there since I am on SSDs on both systems and lots of CPU grunt. To test again, I just hard killed the backend process on the slave 3 times and the master was fine. |
| [16:49:41] | jheizer: | 6 tuners over 2 sources Scheduled 979 items in 1.5 |
| [16:50:26] | stuartm: | even if he had been using a low rpm HDD and low end cpu it was far too slow , the mfdb runs especially – (not discounting the possibility that the SD parser deliberately sleeps for an hour between updating different sources) |
| [16:51:02] | jheizer: | Agreed, his were hoooorible. |
| [16:51:39] | stuartm: | Scheduled 891 items in 0.8 = 0.22 match + 0.04 check + 0.59 place |
| [16:51:45] | stuartm: | with 3 tuners, two sources |
| [16:52:38] | stuartm: | though only 93 visible channels out of a total of 499 provided by those sources |
| [16:53:13] | stuarta: | aka a lotta crap on dvb-s |
| [16:53:20] | stuarta: | +dvb-s2 |
| [16:54:31] | stuartm: | aye :/ |
| [16:54:55] | jheizer: | You killed me on check |
| [16:55:00] | jheizer: | .66 |
| [16:55:59] | stuartm: | that's where proper lineup information would help, could filter out religious, shopping, adult and foreign language channels |
| [16:58:22] | stuartm: | radio channels too, can't remember the last time I actually listened to the radio through my TV |
| [16:59:47] | jheizer: | I am always amazed home much I have recorded over the years looking at the statistics. Not sure if I should be proud or sad. |
| [17:02:29] | stuartm: | another way of looking at it, consider how much time you've saved and crap you've avoided watching by only recording what you actually want to see |
| [17:04:26] | stuartm: | all the films I've recorded but never found the time to watch, can't bring myself to delete them unwatched in most cases, but I'm rapidly reaching the point where I'll have no space left |
| [17:04:32] | jheizer: | Totally. Though much of this was just deleted. So no where near as bad as it looks. |
| [17:04:46] | jheizer: | HDs are cheap :) |
| [17:05:22] | jheizer: | So should I just abandon MobileMyth and join forces? |
| [17:05:40] | jheizer: | YOu are steam rolling along and every time I start working on it I just think I am wasting time and and quit. |
| [17:05:54] | stuartm: | well yes and no, since I've no physical space left for drives, each new one I buy means taking another out of rotation – a 3TB drive means losing a 1TB drive, so I'm paying for 2TB prices for an extra 2TB of space |
| [17:06:22] | jheizer: | Ahhh, I am there too. Maxed on SATA ports and internal expansion slots. |
| [17:06:56] | jheizer: | but in a 2TBx5 Raid5 so can't just upsize either. |
| [17:07:13] | stuartm: | jheizer: help would always be appreciated, especially when it comes to making something that's work well on a mobile |
| [17:08:03] | stuartm: | though I'm not yet sure that a website can offer quite the same experience as an app can |
| [17:08:11] | stuarta: | jheizer: depends what you used to build the raid5 |
| [17:08:11] | jheizer: | You have just been moving faster paced than I can keep up with lately and we have totally different UI style/ideas. |
| [17:08:36] | jheizer: | Haven;t pulled master in a month or so, need to update. |
| [17:09:00] | stuartm: | haven't really done anything at all since before Christmas, only now am I starting to get back into it |
| [17:09:01] | jheizer: | mdadm, so I could have 1TB separate partitions I guess outside the raid. |
| [17:09:36] | jheizer: | I finished my major refactor last night that makes supporting any myth version a piece of cake. |
| [17:09:44] | jheizer: | and to be able to use new functions as they emerge. |
| [17:11:06] | jheizer: | But there are some thing I have had planned that would be muuch easier if I was a backend process. |
| [17:11:36] | jheizer: | Like I have all the stuff there to be able to stream recordings to a chrome cast so you could have cheap $35 mini frontends. |
| [17:11:50] | jheizer: | Problem is I need backend process access to be able to transcode the videos. |
| [17:12:24] | jheizer: | and the future idea of multiple files tied to a single recording entry would make the file management easier. |
| [17:13:15] | stuartm: | we need that for the html5 video etc, I could definitely use someone to work on the real time transcoding side of things as there's quite a bit of work needed there |
| [17:14:11] | jheizer: | That is getting out of my realm sadly. Was just firing off mythffmpeg calls from user jobs and having the chromecast stream the result. |
| [17:14:57] | jheizer: | I fond the right combos to where the CC could stream immediately while the transcode was still running. |
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| [21:13:05] | jheizer: | I still want to "steal" your program guide stuartm... |
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| [21:37:58] | MythBuild: | build #1388 of master-ubuntu-current-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1388 blamelist: Paul Harrison <pharrison@mythtv.org > |
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| [22:54:04] | skd5aner: | mmmmmm 16GB of RAM in my backend now |
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| [22:57:04] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: is there something wrong with the script? or is it just the API is limited? |
| [22:57:52] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: the data behind the api is limited |
| [22:58:11] | wagnerrp: | yay, not my fault! |
| [22:58:32] | dekarl: | basically its "import all english stuff from tvdb" and then moving on from there. |
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| [23:26:56] | stuartm: | what is it that sourceforge actually gain, advertising revenue? |
| [23:28:03] | stuartm: | our hardware might be falling apart, but I'd still rather have control over the software we use – sourceforge gets slower by the day |
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| [23:32:40] | skd5aner: | stichnot: ping, you around? |
| [23:38:21] | stuartm: | heh, they offer forums with a mailing list bridge, makes me wonder whether someone in here works for Sourceforge and saw yesterdays discussion |
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| [23:49:49] | skd5aner: | ?? |
| [23:50:42] | skd5aner: | someone suggesting to use sourceforge as a forum capability? |
| [23:50:44] | skd5aner: | please... no |
| [23:51:01] | skd5aner: | those are the worst |
| [23:56:26] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: i'd be happy if we could just manage to stick to english on trac |
| [23:56:57] | wagnerrp: | and honestly, who takes a screenshot by actually photographing their screen? |
| [23:58:49] | jheizer: | I got 2 of those today... |
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