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Monday, January 27th, 2014, 00:14 UTC
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[01:59:20] skd5aner: gigem: a recent version of .27-fixes. I do have logs without any verbose options if youd like them
[02:00:09] skd5aner: gigem: I don't think there were any other "unusal" things going on – this seems to happen several times a day... so, unfortunately, it seems pretty "usual" to me :)
[02:01:28] skd5aner: gigem: there is one thing that I think /might/ be related – it appears to me there might be some orphaned recordings that it's trying to auto-expire... and I'm wondering when that happens, if the scheduler isn't triggered and that's why I see it so frequently
[02:02:05] skd5aner: gigem: I also seem to occasionally have performance issues when deleting recordings, and when watching live tv – all of which, I believe, can trigger the scheduler
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[03:48:14] gigem: skd5aner: I think the default info level should be sufficient. I want to see the scheduler sleep times. Regarding tmpfs, I forgot to mention earlier that until you get more RAM, you could mount a tmpfs somewhere other than /tmp and direct mysql to use it.
[03:49:37] skd5aner: gigem: ok, I'll try and grab logs sometime tomorrow for you to review... I may have to send several, depending on how many times I had to manually restart it and/or mbe kielled over itself
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[03:55:45] skd5aner: gigem: RAM and SSD just ordered... not exactly where I was hoping to spend some money, but oh well... should put a few more years of life in to the server
[03:55:58] skd5aner: breathe new life
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[13:49:23] stuarta: stuartm: it does seem a little odd that the eitscanner threads are started if they aren't needed
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[14:56:34] stuartm: coverity report updated – http://code.mythtv.org/coverity/index.html
[14:56:37] sphery: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/6e8dae55e
[14:56:45] sphery: "Make EITScanner thread only be started when needed "
[14:56:49] sphery: seems it got broken?
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[16:17:51] nanare3rww: i have pvr2000, and I compare the image quality of cable AV source , on screen in windows XP , to the image on lcd tv, and the image on the TV is much better
[16:18:54] nanare3rww: nyone knows if it is a setup thing, or other problem, my TV gets better image than my computer, I removed digital noise filter from tv, and still the image on tv is better
[16:18:55] ** stuarta points to the topic **
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[18:34:44] gigem: skd5aner: It's quite likely #12032 fixes the live TV scheduling problem you've been having.
[18:34:44] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12032 **
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[19:04:29] dekarl: Oh my, who woke up the "copying is stealing *all over the world*" trolls and threw them into a fighting pit with the "all your content are belong to us" trolls? Can someone give them a forced 24 hour users list vacation?
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[19:05:50] stuartm: sphery: re the -users mailing list complaint about disconnect messages, it may be worth checking that the sockets on that system aren't configured to disconnect after a period of inactivity
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[19:08:26] stuartm: may also be prudent to check that we're using setKeepAlive() on the sockets used for fe/be communication – may have been overlooked after the socket refactor
[19:09:12] stuartm: a quick greps suggests we may not be ...
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[19:27:01] stuartm: dekarl: one advantage of a forum is that you can lock topics
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[19:32:10] dekarl: I hear that phpbb wants to be updated often, is that still the case?
[19:33:03] MartinT: thought about a stack exchange type forum?
[19:33:13] MartinT: i.e. more Q&A rather than discussion?
[19:33:27] drussell_: dekarl: Any thoughts on building 0.27 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE? With gcc 4.6.4 installed and USE_GCC added to the Makefile from your 20140121 port, it compiles cleanly but everything segfaults on execution...
[19:33:48] drussell_: I see wagnerrp is using old gcc 4.2 on his buildbot
[19:34:07] dekarl: drussell_: why not just use clang?
[19:34:29] MartinT: and that -users conversation is funny... I especially like the one saying that he has better things to do with his time... in the middle of a couple hundred word response, with links and explanations...
[19:34:38] drussell_: dekarl: It doesn't compile... Unless I'm just not holding my nose right :)
[19:35:15] dekarl: can you pastebin (at least the end of) the attempt to compile?
[19:36:16] drussell_: dekarl: Running a make now with clang, I can't recall exactly what it complains about so tried with GCC since I had it installed anyway and it compiled, so thought I was closer :)
[19:36:23] MartinT: dekarl: re forum, I'd advise one that is very lightweight on client side stuff... nothing worse than one of these ones with masses of images, graphical type stuff
[19:37:44] dekarl: MartinT: mythtv.org is supposed to generate 21$ per day in revenue, we need to plaster the forum with helpful links to achieve that :D
[19:38:07] dekarl: ^- the number is from some site that added domain checks lately, I forgot which, though
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[19:39:25] dekarl: drussell_: something like that? http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . e/logs/stdio
[19:40:27] stuartm: dekarl: dunno, but the current version is many years old, it ought to be extremely stable and secure by now
[19:43:47] stuartm: dekarl: hmm, they released version 3 in 2007, since then there have only been 12 point releases or an average of 2 a year, most of those occurred in the first year years
[19:44:03] stuartm: in the first three years
[19:44:49] stuartm: e.g. 3.0.6 was released in 2009
[19:45:14] drussell_: dekarl: http://pastebin.com/ceq5gbC2
[19:45:52] drussell_: dekarl: I'm perfectly willing to entertain the suggestion that it's me doing something horribly wrong somehow...  :)
[19:48:28] dekarl: girls are returning, i'll look at it later
[19:48:45] drussell_: dekarl: NP, thanks in advance...
[19:52:10] dekarl: drussell_: you are not doing anything funny like trying to use system/ports ffmpeg headers instead of our bundled ones?
[19:53:25] drussell_: dekarl: I'm not overriding anything at all, just the way the port is distributed right now so it should be using the bundled ones, I'd assume...
[19:54:01] drussell_: dekarl: The system is a fresh make world from last night and portmaster -a says everything is up to date, also, BTW.
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[20:01:47] toeb: hi, mythmusic has a small error while scanning for music. If the directory is not already in the DB the scanner deletes the first char of each directory
[20:01:53] toeb: http://pastebin.com/zUVqs4NL
[20:02:00] toeb: works for me..
[20:14:13] stuartm: toeb: Paul who is currently working on mythmusic isn't here right now, he's been making a lot of changes to the scanner in the last few days and so he really needs to sign off on that change
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[20:36:06] MartinT: I'm assuming this CACook guy doesn't come on IRC... or code...
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[20:49:29] MartinT: stuartm: did you see my question re jquery hover intent?
[20:50:20] stuartm: MartinT: seems fine
[20:54:59] MartinT: good good... one of those really annoying things when you're developing...
[20:55:30] stuartm: MartinT: actually, what does it do? seems to behave identically to the jquery hover example given at the top
[20:56:02] MartinT: the idea is that it wait's "x" milliseconds before it triggers the action...
[20:56:18] MartinT: i.e. I intended to do that, it wasn't a mistake...
[20:56:45] MartinT: at the moment, as soon as you get 1 pixel in, it triggers "show"
[20:57:28] MartinT: providing the licence is alright, I can mock it up in an hour or so for you to see...
[20:57:48] stuartm: ah, OK – I used a timer elsewhere for that :) But plugin is fine as long as it's well behaved
[20:58:08] MartinT: I use it in a corporate environment, with a few more users ;)
[20:59:42] stuartm: MIT license is GPL compatible
[20:59:49] MartinT: I did try working with timers, but handling the intricacy of different scenarios, like in and out in quick succession etc.
[21:00:10] MartinT: dutch to me... all I see is... "Ok, go ahead"
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[21:04:46] paul-h: toeb: noted – I'm in the process of switching MythMusic to use storage groups so it's possible I broke something when using local file access – it seemed to be working fine when using storage groups though even on multiple hosts
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[21:44:57] dekarl: drussell_: you have ffmpeg installed? I think its because /usr/local/include come earlier then ../../externel/FFmpeg thus we use the system headers instead of ours
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[21:54:33] drussell_: dekarl: Yes, it is installed but wouldn't that still make it fail when compiling with gcc, though?
[21:55:20] drussell_: dekarl: Plus, the compiler invocation shows ... -I../../external/FFmpeg -I/usr/local/include -I. -I/usr/local/include/qt4 -I/usr/local/include ... isn't that going to use the included ffmpeg first?
[21:55:33] dekarl: meh
[21:55:35] drussell_: dekarl: included in MythTV, that is
[21:56:08] dekarl: what you say would work
[21:56:20] dekarl: But on the pastebin /usr/local/include comes earlier
[21:56:37] drussell_: dekarl: I just did a rebuild of all the upstream dependancies thinking something might have been borked during my ports upgrade but alas, it still doesn't work..
[21:57:12] dekarl: actually its both "... -I. ... -I/usr/local ... -I/usr/local/include -I../../external/qjson/include -I../../external/zeromq/include -I../../external/nzmqt/include/nzmqt -I../../external/libsamplerate -I../libmythsoundtouch -I../libmythfreesurround -I../libmythbase -I../.. -I.. -I. -I../libmythupnp -I../libmythui -I../../external/FFmpeg -I. ... -I/usr/local/include"
[21:57:14] drussell_: dekarl: Just looked while compiling a moment ago and that was the paste, so it seems correct now, regardless but still dies at the same place
[21:57:45] drussell_: dekarl: Hmm...
[21:58:50] dekarl: you can test by moving /usr/local/include/libav* out of the way (like append a ".now-you-dont-see-me" or similar) and compiling again
[21:59:44] drussell_: dkarl: Good thought... Let me do a little more sleuthing...
[22:00:40] stuartm: sphery: nice deductive reasoning
[22:01:24] stuartm: a null terminating character ending up in pretty much any db column is going to cause havoc with the protocol and elsewhere
[22:01:55] stuartm: never crossed my mind
[22:11:18] MartinT: how does the -dev mailing list handle images... should I get the hosted somewhere, or can I just include them in the e-mail?
[22:11:51] MartinT: if hosting is the way to go... where...
[22:14:42] stuartm: http://imagebin.ca/ ?
[22:14:55] stuartm: imageshack has been used in the past
[22:15:34] stuartm: although back then imageshack didn't require you to create an account
[22:15:55] stuartm: some imagebin.ca is probably a lot easier
[22:15:59] stuartm: so
[22:22:14] MartinT: thanks...
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[22:22:59] MartinT: quick question... in a qsp, using the api... can you use "named" parameters, or do you have to explicitly specify every one of them...
[22:26:49] MartinT: dblain: API question... is it possible to use an Enum in the api... if so, have you got an example?
[22:34:30] stuartm: MartinT: no, but hopefully soon, it's something that dblain was going to add when he had the time
[22:34:48] MartinT: ah, good good...
[22:35:14] MartinT: was just thinking that "Sort" on the video list api would be better served as an enum rather than a magic string....
[22:36:06] MartinT: would also be good if there was a way to embed a description of the service and parameters in the code that translated to the WSDL
[22:36:18] MartinT: but I think that would be a bit of work..
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