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[06:39:25] dekarl: skd5aner: that was exactly my concern. avoid waiting for the next keypress and just collapse all seeks that have acumulated if the decoding times out and we just jump to a keyframe / is done and we seek again. Bit it appears as if we all agree on the general behaviour. The differences were just in implementation details
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[12:21:27] knightr: jpabq, that nicolas is not me, he seems to be a French (from France) guy (I am Canadian)... Things have been so crazy here I haven't had time to play with Myth recently...
[12:21:39] knightr: Happy New Year btw!
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[13:05:24] stuartm: dekarl: that part looks fine, just need to actually change the schema version in mythversion.h
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[15:02:46] ** stuarta is fiddling with the build master **
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[15:17:45] stuartm: skd5aner: any crashes/deadlocks ?
[15:19:51] stuartm: skd5aner: fwiw, with the 'rollup' I believe stichnot is proposing not that we wait for other keypresses but that we combine keypresses if we're still handling the first seek when the second, third etc are requested
[15:21:01] stuartm: so instead of queing those requests one behind another and handling them seperately, we simply change our target for the seek
[15:22:18] stichnot: yeah, that's what I was thinking
[15:22:34] stichnot: stuartm: do you know offhand what the image cache size is in 0.27?
[15:22:44] stuartm: 30MB iirc
[15:22:51] stuartm: was 20MB
[15:30:16] stichnot: hmm. For #12005, I found a legitimate leak in the subtitle code in Master, but that was from a refactor and not present in 0.27. I'm assuming he is just observing the image cache warming up, but in my tests, the RES size in "top" grows by about 100MB before stabilizing.
[15:30:16] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12005 **
[15:32:14] stuartm: stichnot: well the cache just represents images which may not be 'in-use', if you are displaying 100MB of images then 100MB of ram will be used
[15:32:30] stuartm: although exactly how you'd hit that limit for subtitles ...
[15:33:54] stuartm: tbh, using the cache at all for those images seems like a complete waste – they are short lived and unlikely to repeat, by filling the cache with them you push out other images like the OSD images that will be repeatedly displayed
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[15:43:59] stuarta: i think i'll wait a few days before bothing creating a freebsd 10 builder. it gets released on 20th
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[15:44:16] stichnot: That's true, at least for the text images – the black background rectangles are probably reusable fwiw. But I'm trying to figure why the size grows 100MB instead of 30MB
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[17:25:48] jpabq: knightr: oops! Sorry about that. And thanks! A fantastic New Year to you as well.
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[19:24:48] stichnot: skd5aner, stuartm: Another slow-seeking UI tweak to try is to allow intermediate frames to be displayed while closing in on the target frame, perhaps 5–10 updates per second. (But this is probably not a great idea while playback is paused, such as in the cutlist editor.)
[19:25:08] stichnot: This on top of multi-seek rollup, etc
[19:27:40] stuartm: stichnot: as paul-h reminded me, we use a separate cache for shapes/strings which is 96MB
[19:28:41] stichnot: Also, MythPlayer::WaitForSeek() displays a "Searching..." message after 150 frames when there is no seektable, but this could also be leveraged to be delay-based
[19:29:02] stichnot: stuartm: thanks, that makes complete sense then.
[19:29:53] stuartm: stichnot: with text based subs, do we delete them when the next subs appear on-screen, or when the markup instructs us to do so? Is it possible that it's the particular subtitles that the end-user is using that may be causing the problem? Say because they aren't including an end-time or something?
[19:30:50] stichnot: when the markup instructs.
[19:33:12] stichnot: I asked the reporter (privately) for a copy of his .srt file, osd_subtitle.xml, and extra logs
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[20:24:21] skd5aner: stuartm: experiencing an "event" right now actually – mythbackend pegging 2 of my CPUs
[20:24:50] skd5aner: stuartm: and I think I saw it flutter on/off last night once
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[20:54:13] verm__: is it possible to setup mythtv (backend) without mythtv-setup?
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[20:54:48] verm__: i'm on freebsd 10, it keep segfaulting, i've tried with gcc 4.[6–8], the trace doesn't tell me much even with a debug build
[21:00:00] dekarl: stuartm: thanks for looking, reminds me that I wanted to add a "versionator" that verfies that the various versions match.
[21:01:09] dekarl: verm__: ming to pastebin the backtrace somewhere?
[21:01:22] verm__: sure, one sec
[21:02:05] dekarl: verm__: you can setup most of mythtv via the services API instead of mythtv-setup. Only I don't know of a client for that outside of a demo video :/
[21:02:25] dekarl: fixing the segfault appears to be the easier route :D
[21:02:29] verm__: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4014569
[21:03:01] verm__: gcc 4.7.4 (2013-12–14)
[21:03:13] verm__: heh yeah fixing the segfault is probably easier
[21:04:27] verm__: i had to include sys/types.h in mythtv/libs/libmythupnp/mmulticastsocketdevice.cpp mythtv/libs/libmythupnp/upnptasknotify.cpp for it to build on gcc 4.7+
[21:05:51] dekarl: I'm surprised to see libmythqjson in a mythtv-setup bt
[21:08:22] danielk22: dekarl: It's the logging
[21:09:09] verm__: all the other binaries run fine it's just mythtv-setup
[21:09:24] dekarl: verm__: can you try mythtv-setup --nologserver?
[21:09:54] verm__: same, it segfaults on mythtv-setup --help, too
[21:11:25] verm__: i'm not sure if it's even getting far enough to capture commandline options, i could try modifying the source
[21:14:02] dekarl: verm__: hmm, I'm just guessing now, maybe ./configure --disable-mythlogserver
[21:14:23] verm__: ok
[21:14:31] dekarl: just out of curiosity, why do you build with three gccs but no clang?
[21:14:43] verm__: it doesn't build under clang on freebsd, yet
[21:14:51] dekarl: it does not? oh
[21:15:07] verm__: the maintainer has been trying to fix it, slowly it's a time thing
[21:15:45] dekarl: are you building from the port or pristine source?
[21:15:51] verm__: ports
[21:16:05] verm__: MythTV-mythtv-e9545c0 (0.27)
[21:16:20] dekarl: ok. I'm wondering because we have buildbots for freebsd and clang. Not sure if we use clang on freebsd though
[21:16:28] verm__: interesting, there's a change here to logging
[21:17:13] verm__: i wonder if this is what's causing it
[21:17:23] verm__: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/multimed . . . ;view=markup
[21:19:02] verm__: going back to gcc 4.6
[21:19:03] dekarl: that change gut commited to master
[21:19:15] verm__: oh? ok, hmm
[21:21:36] verm__: trying a rebuild with that patch removed first then i'll try --disable-mythlogserver
[21:22:29] dekarl: I'm looking at the patches
[21:25:49] verm__: ok i see why that patch was needed, trying the flag, now
[21:29:24] stuartm: dekarl: actually, the services API won't get you very far – no support for stuff like scan, card selection/setup etc
[21:30:47] stuartm: in fact it's missing support for pretty much everything basic settings
[21:30:53] stuartm: except
[21:31:30] verm__: i just want to use it for a video archive for now
[21:40:48] verm__: dekarl: trace is the same, mythqjson is still included
[21:50:02] verm__: am i stuck with no way to configure the backend until this is fixed?
[21:56:39] verm__: also any further tips on how i can debug this would be handy
[22:20:53] mrand: Is the trunk (future 0.28) setup functional enough that verm__ might stand a chance?
[22:21:18] mrand: oh, I think that's what was alluded to a few lines above.
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