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Saturday, January 11th, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:26] MartinT: I run with a slave backend, and I don't have any problems...
[00:00:37] MartinT: although my master is tunerless...
[00:03:20] MartinT: i did have a weird issue a while back where a frontend playing films for Videos, would stutter... only when a particular slave was unconnectable, and that slave had nothing to do with the the films that was being played...
[00:03:45] MartinT: as soon as the slave came back online, no stutter in playback...
[00:04:14] MartinT: anyone know what the minimum QT version is for myth off the top of their head?
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[00:06:06] wagnerrp: 4.8 i believe
[00:06:49] MartinT: booo...
[00:07:07] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0. . . . site_Changes
[00:07:19] MartinT: lookbehinds would be far easier to achieve what I want, but they are not in till 5
[00:14:28] wagnerrp: worth a bump for 0.28?
[00:14:41] wagnerrp: we'd need to get additional buildbots set up before seriously considering that
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[00:25:31] MartinT: nah...
[00:26:25] MartinT: it's a one line thing, I can do with a split... just annoying as I've spent ages trying to build a fancy regex for it...
[00:28:40] MartinT: trying to replace "\\." with something that doesn't match if it's both preceded and followed by a single character...
[00:29:51] MartinT: i.e. "House.M.D.S01E01" would be able to remove the dots and leave it with "House M.D S01E01"
[00:30:59] MartinT: it's a minor thing, I was just needing something to fill a bit of time...
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[00:31:46] wagnerrp: easy enough to just remove the dots from the filename
[00:32:15] MartinT: that's what we do... but we also remove the one in the middle of M and D...
[00:32:33] MartinT: meaning you get a failure to match on tvdb...
[00:32:45] wagnerrp: they don't match on their side?
[00:32:50] MartinT: nope
[00:33:08] MartinT: http://thetvdb.com/api/GetSeries.php?seriesname=house%20m%20d
[00:33:26] MartinT: http://thetvdb.com/api/GetSeries.php?seriesname=house%20m.d
[00:33:36] wagnerrp: right, i'm saying all periods
[00:33:55] wagnerrp: http://thetvdb.com/api/GetSeries.php?seriesname=house%20md
[00:34:57] MartinT: hmmm interesting...
[00:35:35] MartinT: still got a similar problem with the regex though... how to match the spaces and remove them...
[00:35:51] MartinT: like I said, I can do it in code, I was just trying to be fancy with the regex
[00:37:11] MartinT: unless you were referring to fixing the filename prior to import...
[00:37:57] MartinT: in which case, the answer is yes, but I was trying to make the application do it...
[00:38:09] wagnerrp: right
[00:39:53] MartinT: basically I rescaned my entire library the other week, as I managed to junk the install... so I rescaned all my house rips... all 8 seasons..
[00:40:26] MartinT: to get them to match, I had to go into the db and update them as the overrides in the config don't appear to be working...
[00:41:02] MartinT: I though... well, why shouldn't the application recognise that a single character separation should be an abbreviation?
[00:41:38] MartinT: invent a problem, and then find the fix... best way to fill time...
[00:43:20] MartinT: anyway, I'll give it another go tomorrow, if I can regex it, I'll just code it...
[00:43:30] MartinT: laterz
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[03:52:08] ent42: Hello! Not sure if I should ask this here or in #mythtv-theming, but I noticed that when browsing recordings the Blue Abstract theme will use its icon for Dolby 7.1 for anything tagged as having "dolby" audio. I suspect this is wrong as the recordings in question only have 5.1 channel audio. I started poking around the source code to see how Mythtv determines what kind of audio a recording has (mono, sterio, surround, or dolby), bu
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[10:34:10] stuartm: we don't distinguish between 7.1 and 5.1 atm, old guide data only indicated 'Dolby' (for Dolby Stereo) which is obviously useless now that we multi-channel audio with digital TV
[10:34:50] stuartm: the theme is incorrect to use a 7.1 icon though
[10:35:55] stuartm: maybe we'll get around to extending/redefining the audio properties to include the number of channels instead of vague definitions like 'Dolby' and 'Surround'
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[10:47:21] dekarl: we could update all flags after the recording is complete from the actual properties... would help with other properties like widescreen, hdtv, too.
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[11:41:21] stuartm: dekarl: we already do :)
[11:41:35] stuartm: actually we do it using the mpeg headers as they record
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[11:45:51] dekarl: stuartm :( oh noes, then its buggy. I get different values for widescreen for back-to-back episodes of one series
[11:46:13] dekarl: As long as I could blame "the guide" all was fine. Now I have to wonder if I can fix it
[11:48:20] stuartm: well not sure about the widescreen flag tbh, but hdtv 1080/720 and iirc the audio props are all determined
[11:48:58] stuartm: it's in the mpegparser
[11:50:36] stuartm: which I can't seem to find
[11:51:53] dekarl: looking at the last post to the IPTV from Freebox ticket... do we not support RTP+RTCP anymore? I can't find the string "rtcp" outside of externals :(
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[12:07:55] stuartm: dekarl: start check by the aspect ratio values in the recordmarkup table, we add a new entry each time the aspect ratio changes, then when the recording finishes we call ProgramInfo::QueryAverageAspectRatio() from TVRec::FinishedRecording() to establish what aspect ratio was dominant
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[12:12:35] dekarl: stuartm, that is a very interesting sql statement
[12:14:47] stuartm: yeah, I think that's 'evolved' since I last looked at/worked on the code
[12:18:03] stuartm: nope ... that's strange, apparently I committed all of that just 9 months ago
[12:18:34] stuartm: a) could have sworn it was a lot longer ago b) I've no memory of authoring that particular query
[12:18:45] dekarl: how does it work when you have two marks, like at the start its 4:3 then switches to 16:9 and stays like that until the end?
[12:19:04] dekarl: wouldn't it be like "duration: x in 4:3" and "duration: 0 in 16:9"?
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[12:19:33] stuartm: ahh, I didn't author the query, it was a copy/paste from the one in load_markup_datum
[12:19:34] dekarl: or are we adding a "the last aspect was 16:9" mark at the end of the recording
[12:19:44] dekarl: ?
[12:23:50] stuartm: not sure, fastest way to tell would be to query the table and see what's in there
[12:24:22] dekarl: we only call AspectChange when we find a keyframe and the aspectratio was unknown or different before :(
[12:27:50] dekarl: ok, "max(mark)" is 2000 frames later then "max(mark) where type between aspect_min and aspect_max" for the recording I'm looking at
[12:28:34] dekarl: that's 80 seconds missing from the calculation in this case
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[12:40:47] dekarl: hmm, mythweb not preserving the sort order (asc vs. desc) made me debug a 2011 recording :( one 16:9 mark, still no widescreen flag set.
[12:48:02] dekarl: soo, a recording from this week... type aspect_16:9 at mark 1, then later aspect_4:3 at mark 94486 and the last (but unrelated type) at mark 98098. The result is Aspect 4:3
[12:49:06] dekarl: If I understand the code correctly we create spans between two marks of the same type. then group by type and return the type that has the highest sum of all durations
[12:49:51] dekarl: only that saying "its 16:9 from the this 16:9 mark until the next *16:9* mark" appears strange. should be "from this 16:9 mark to the next aspect mark" imho
[12:50:27] dekarl: or in other words, I find "rm.type = recordedmarkup.type AND " suspect
[12:51:24] dekarl: should be "rm.type >= 11 AND rm.type <= 14 AND" just like it is for recordedmarkup
[12:51:55] dekarl: ^- with this change I get the expected result
[12:52:41] dekarl: (it will still fail for the example of a short X segment followed by a long Y segment until the end. but its an improvement imho)
[12:54:51] dekarl: actually it will break that case because now two wrongs make one right... (for two segments only its simply the highest first frame that wins)
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[13:22:10] dekarl: stuartm, mind to review? http://pastebin.com/Wb3ZwTBk I have tested it with manual invocations in phpmyadmin and looked at the segments. (the last segment gets counted with a duration of NULL frames)
[13:24:07] dekarl: doh, its missing an "AND" behind :ASPECTEND2
[13:25:47] dekarl: fixed patch http://pastebin.com/6GctQ3S8
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[19:12:07] dekarl: http://pastebin.com/wpqjTJZi http://pastebin.com/czx62DAn <- rework ProgramInfo::QueryAverageAspectRatio(), can someone take a look if that's good for pushing?
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[21:02:49] MartinT: dekarl: I'm obviously no expert, but QueryAverageAspectRatio, doesn't actually return an average does it>
[21:04:30] dekarl: MartinT: no, it returns the aspect ratio that is signalled for the longest time
[21:06:07] dekarl: (13:10:46) stuartm: dekarl: ... when the recording finishes we call ProgramInfo::QueryAverageAspectRatio() from TVRec::FinishedRecording() to establish what aspect ratio was dominant
[21:06:31] MartinT: just thinking that it might be worth changing the method name to actually describe what it does...
[21:06:55] MartinT: I was just reviewing your proposed commit to see if I could help, and it was a bit misleading...
[21:07:07] MartinT: principal of least surprise...
[21:23:02] dekarl: MartinT: I think its called like that because the other functions actually return an average. You're still right though. The name is a little bit misleading.
[21:23:49] dekarl: But the more I think about it, the more complex it gets (should it consider the cut list and only count uncut frames?)
[21:27:35] MartinT: seeing as it's based on the recording, shouldn't it just use the raw output?
[21:28:00] MartinT: i.e. not using the cutlist...
[21:29:16] MartinT: or maybe an overload on the method that allows it take into account the cutlist, then the caller can choose...
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[21:32:12] MartinT: so "mark" in that table is the number of (some time based integer) from the start of the recording?
[21:32:37] dekarl: IIRC it is the frame number
[21:33:07] dekarl: but actually that is a good question because it leads to questions like "is it 0 or 1 based?"
[21:33:44] dekarl: from some bug reports it appears as its interpreted differently in different part of the code (leading to off by ones and funny effects)
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[21:36:27] dekarl: #11924 if someone could clarify how that all goes together (is the timestamp signalling the beginning of the frame or the end? hint, the first frame has timecode 0:00) and if its 0 or 1 based. Is the frame with the cut mark kept or dropped?
[21:36:27] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11924 **
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[21:38:47] MartinT: don't know if it's of use, by most of the recordings I can see in my db have the first mark as 1
[21:38:53] MartinT: for those types...
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[21:51:31] MartinT: dekarl: what I would say is that I don't see a reason for a second bind values...
[21:52:02] MartinT: can it not be bound to the :ASPECTSTART, and just use the same one?
[21:53:21] MartinT: I'd also take the opportunity to replace rm.chanid = recordedmarkup.chanid with rm.chanid = :CHANID
[21:54:05] MartinT: minor performance improvement over a join (that's based on SQL Server/postgres, but I imagine MySQL is the same)
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[21:54:30] MartinT: oh, and the same with the starttime in the sub select...
[21:55:16] MartinT: I was trying to find a way to simplify the sql, but my head hurts now...
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