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| [00:42:09] | zentec: | dekarl: that causes updates on two rows. There is the scheduled record, and the livetv session. |
| [00:45:35] | zentec: | ^in mythconverg.recorded |
| [00:51:46] | zentec: | dekarl: I see what you are talking about |
| [01:00:14] | zentec: | missed that; http://pastebin.com/2jRzZsq7 ... the starttimes are different. Then what the hell causes the recgroup to be set to LiveTV? |
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| [08:43:17] | dekarl: | hmm, looks like the hdhomerun does not use the timeb.h functions anymore but still includes the deprecated header. http://pastebin.com/vZaJeK4E |
| [08:44:02] | dekarl: | see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . erun.2.patch |
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| [10:16:01] | stuartm: | zentec: I'd look for any code calling ApplyRecordRecGroupChange() with the program start time instead of recording start time |
| [10:17:25] | stuartm: | that would explain why most people never see this issue, they use start offsets for scheduled recordings so program start won't match recording start time and Apply...() would just quietly fail |
| [10:18:17] | stuartm: | oh nevermind, that couldn't happen here |
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| [11:30:44] | stuartm: | stichnot: in case you don't check the channel history, I added the 'Inactive' rule filter the other day |
| [11:33:57] | paul-h: | stuartm: do you remember if the random background image stuff was ever committed? |
| [11:38:00] | stuartm: | paul-h: I believe it was, iirc you specify a folder and it picks images from it |
| [11:39:19] | stuartm: | yeah, looks like it's there, the image is static though, the random image is chosen when the screen loads and it doesn't flip between them |
| [11:39:47] | paul-h: | Sadly the patch is still waiting in trac :( #9597 |
| [11:39:47] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9597 ** | |
| [11:40:52] | stuartm: | oh, hmm ... guess I confused the pre-existing feature with the one proposed in that patch |
| [11:41:38] | stuartm: | lack of storage group support in the patch is a problem |
| [11:41:52] | stuartm: | ah, should have read the comments first |
| [11:42:31] | stuartm: | paul-h: I'll review that and get it in this week |
| [11:43:23] | stuartm: | based on the description I might make a couple of small changes |
| [11:47:11] | stuartm: | may even take the time to support 'slide show' behaviour |
| [11:48:00] | paul-h: | I was hoping to use it to add a random background image to all windows in a Xmas theme |
| [11:49:33] | stuartm: | paul-h: fanart type images, or theme images? The latter is already possible, the patch in that ticket simply adds the option to pull images from fanart/coverart folders and storage groups |
| [11:50:23] | stuartm: | e.g. <filename>/path/to/xmas/images/</filename> would work in 0.27 |
| [11:51:38] | paul-h: | Yeah just theme background images. I'll give that a try |
| [11:51:45] | paul-h: | Thanks! |
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| [12:39:20] | zentec: | ok, I'll take a look in that direction. |
| [12:52:07] | stuartm: | zentec: it's a red herring, I wasn't paying enough attention, it wouldn't seem to be possible for that to happen |
| [12:56:50] | zentec: | ah, understood |
| [12:58:06] | stuartm: | after a quick look, unless some versions of mysql are treating the two times as identical because they are a second apart, I can't see why it would be happening |
| [12:58:37] | zentec: | it isn't doing that |
| [13:00:11] | zentec: | that recgroup change causes the recording status not to update properly and it stays that way until the backend restarts and cleans it up. But manually changing it while the recording is in session and both livetv and the scheduled record go about their business without issue. |
| [13:00:50] | zentec: | I'll keep poking at it, it is slow as the codebase is unfamiliar |
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| [14:25:40] | stichnot: | stuartm: I saw that (inactive rule filter), thanks! I'll test it out soon. |
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| [15:01:43] | paul-h: | stuartm: while the random image thing does work it's not much use as a window background since it only loads the image once when it's definition is loaded so if the background is defined in backgroundwindow in base.xml you do get a random bg each time the FE loads but it never changes after that. Not quite the effect I was after |
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| [17:02:07] | zentec: | stuartm: the flip of the recordgroup happens in libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp line 4508. I'll spend some time looking that over this afternoon |
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| [18:54:19] | peper03: | wagnerrp: Shouldn't this line https://github.com/wagnerrp/mythtv-scripts/bl . . . port.py#L262 be 'self.vid.open'? Otherwise it's comparing the hash of the source file with itself. |
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| [19:00:17] | skd5aner: | stuartm, dekarl1: fyi, here was the announcement to the SD API change that included metadata, including tvrage/tvdb IDs and season/episodes numbers – http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1584 |
| [19:00:45] | skd5aner: | ah, netsplit :P |
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| [19:02:23] | dekarl: | skd5aner: thanks for finding that hidden gem in the heaps of changelogs... maybe we should add a rosetta stone of tv guides to the xmltv wiki or something... |
| [19:02:44] | skd5aner: | stuartm_: Also, here's where Robert mentioned a alpha grabber script for mythtv which takes adavantage of many of the new API changes – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/557640 |
| [19:02:58] | skd5aner: | I mentioned this last month in here I think :) |
| [19:03:22] | skd5aner: | dekarl: :) |
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| [19:04:38] | stuartm: | skd5aner: I have the memory of a goldfish |
| [19:05:46] | skd5aner: | His script does channnel logos, metadata, Season/Epsidoe data, QAM data (!!!), delta-only pulls, etc |
| [19:06:43] | skd5aner: | stuartm: heh – I'd be the last to cast stones in the memory department... I now believe that part of my brain may actually be made of Jell-o ;) |
| [19:07:12] | stuartm: | yeah, I knew he'd been working on it, sphery and I made a brief, vain attempt to swing him in favour of the xmltv-only plan several months ago when he first mentioned it |
| [19:07:52] | skd5aner: | what was his objections (if any)? |
| [19:08:16] | stuartm: | he didn't express any objections, just ignored us iirc |
| [19:08:26] | stuartm: | NIH |
| [19:09:12] | skd5aner: | yea, I don't really think he hangs out much in the mythtv communities anymore |
| [19:09:33] | skd5aner: | !seen rkulagow |
| [19:09:33] | MythLogBot: | rkulagow was last seen 65 days 7 hours 16 minutes 59 seconds ago |
| [19:09:54] | skd5aner: | ah, not too long... when I looked in users, it was something like 3 years ago :) |
| [19:12:28] | stuartm: | it's a shame really, because it would have been great to have just one guide parser to maintain instead of two (ignoring EIT) |
| [19:13:32] | stuartm: | it would also have been good to get more people invested in the future and development of xmltv (lineup support, image metadata etc) |
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| [19:16:12] | stuartm: | I want to say "Fine, do it your own way, but if it breaks, I ain't fixing it" ... but since we're basically talking about converting over a large percentage of the user base to utilise it, I can't really afford to |
| [19:17:07] | stuartm: | the bit about "mythfilldatabase-like grabber" worries me, why hasn't he just added a new parser to mfdb? |
| [19:21:07] | skd5aner: | heh – that was my first thought... |
| [19:21:09] | dekarl: | actually I think we are duplication efforts between SD/MB/NonameTV and that makes me sad because the open tv guide crafter community is such a small group and we still don't have a good metadata repository :( We might as well pipe SD data into a private Atlas instance and use that instead :( |
| [19:21:23] | dekarl: | the we could integrate properly and move the community ahead |
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| [19:30:20] | stuartm: | something I added to the WebFrontend guide has got me thinking about marking ALL previously recorded programs in the guide grid (and other program list screens) and even allow filtering in the latter |
| [19:30:51] | stuartm: | I can't be the only one who has looked at a film in the listings and wondered whether I've already seen it |
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| [19:33:48] | tonsofpcs: | stichnot: but previously recorded doesn't mean successfully recorded nor does it mean viewed... |
| [19:36:26] | stuartm: | tonsofpcs: actually it does mean the former, at least now it does, and no it doesn't mean viewed but that's not a reason to not do it |
| [19:37:08] | stuartm: | failed recordings don't get marked as previously recorded |
| [19:40:04] | stuartm: | each week there are dozens of films, trawling through them all to find the few that both haven't been seen and which are worth seeing is a laborious task, the option to highlight (or filter) only those which haven't been previously recorded would make my life easier |
| [19:40:54] | stuartm: | sadly there's no practical way to filter out the TV movies |
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| [19:51:24] | wagnerrp: | peper03: heh, yeah. good catch |
| [19:53:15] | dekarl: | stuartm, I wonder about that, too. but also about if this was the movie I had on my watch list. I'm not sure how to ingest that into the scheduler though (tvwish comes to mind) e.g. /3/account/{id}/movie_watchlist from http://docs.themoviedb.apiary.io/ |
| [19:53:58] | dekarl: | stuartm, imdb flags movies as "tv movie" I don't think tv_imdb adds that to the xmltv though |
| [19:55:10] | stuartm: | it might be a distinction that the new RT feed makes, will have to see how far along Nick has got with that |
| [19:55:11] | dekarl: | according to https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/51b5fe1a760ee359996a0e62 themoviedb is about to remove the genre "tv movie" |
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| [19:55:42] | dekarl: | I'm not sure what I think about the diversion of effort between _uk_rt and _uk_atlas |
| [19:58:02] | tonsofpcs: | stuartm: interesting... what happens when an OTA signal is intermittent for the duration of a recording? With 0.25, I often get a 58m20s recording of what is supposed to be a 60m6s recording... |
| [19:58:51] | stuartm: | dekarl: he's maintaining both? |
| [19:59:25] | stuartm: | tonsofpcs: it's marked as failed |
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| [20:00:02] | stuartm: | dekarl: isn't the RT feed going away to be replaced with the atlas feed? |
| [20:01:07] | stuartm: | tonsofpcs: discontinuities in the stream are detected, at a pre-set threshold the recording is automatically tagged as 'failed' and scheduled to re-record |
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| [20:01:41] | stuartm: | well, that's the theory, there are still a couple of scenarios where that isn't happening as it should |
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| [20:04:02] | stuartm: | dekarl: reading that thread I dispair about comments like "Crime, Mystery and Thriller" being "same kind of movies" and "this 3 genres will always be used in combination" |
| [20:08:37] | stuartm: | or the comment about "Science Fiction" being a sub-genre of "Fantasy" ... the other way around, perhaps ... (once had a heated debate about that on Amazon) |
| [20:24:31] | wagnerrp: | the real problem is that science fiction is such a bloat genre |
| [20:24:34] | wagnerrp: | *bloated |
| [20:25:20] | dekarl: | stuartm: Nick maintains _uk_rt with lots of additional fixups, Geoff maintains the new _uk_atlas with plain RT data. Well, the XMLTV/RT feed is just a subset of the atlas feed. While it is on life support it has been signalled that they are willing to run a community maintained feed. |
| [20:26:00] | dekarl: | I was thinking about adding a proper XMLTV feed like we have for AU/SE/NO/HR/DE exporting as much as possible in premade xmltv files according to known best practice (like flagging movies/series). But running my own feed is higher on "the list" then writing a proper UK feed :) So I'm looking into ways to reduce work |
| [20:28:15] | stuartm: | dekarl: hmm, guess I need to do some reading, I thought Nick was the one working on supporting the Atlas RT feed over the old CSV feed |
| [20:28:33] | dekarl: | I agree, the genre discussion is confusing. It appears as if (High) Fantasy and Science Fiction share a common supergenre. But people consider Shrek to be a Kids programme. so it all has to be taken with a grain of salt |
| [20:28:38] | stuartm: | not quite sure what purpose _uk_atlas is meant to be serving |
| [20:29:23] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: and yet surprisingly so few films are released which fall into the Sci-Fi super genre, let alone good films :/ |
| [20:29:30] | dekarl: | Geoff wrote it for himself because Nick is burried in work. As it happened to be written in Perl we talked him into joining the XMLTV crowd. |
| [20:30:52] | dekarl: | we could also merge in bechdeltest.com/api/v1/doc to show how merging data into a guide works. (some swedish cinemas started to add the test result to their programmes) |
| [20:33:28] | stuartm: | dekarl: well I'll let you lot figure that out between yourselves, as long as it works well I really don't mind, that's the beauty of using a standard API like xmltv, I don't have to care what it looks like upstream so long as it complies with the API MythTV can ingest it |
| [20:35:59] | stuartm: | one thing I miss from the old RT feed (before the BBC sold it) are the professional ratings and reviews, those were extremely useful for picking out what might be worth recording |
| [20:37:25] | wagnerrp: | that's easy to fix |
| [20:37:32] | wagnerrp: | record everything and sort it out later... :) |
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| [20:45:39] | stuartm: | well I could just browse their website instead, or even buy the magazine (hah) |
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| [20:49:51] | stuartm: | traditionally my family only ever bought the RT magazine once a year, for the Christmas edition, we'd all take turns marking off what we wanted to watch over the holiday – decided to revive that transition that last xmas, it was pretty depressing ... not more than a couple of things worth seeing the whole two weeks and of course normal programming was suspended, lot of books got read |
| [20:50:04] | stuartm: | tradition |
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