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| [16:33:14] | jams: | so any objections to removing the 34GB access log for mythtv.org? /opt only has 7Gb free and that is the main culprit |
| [16:33:57] | jams: | guess i could gzip it if someone wants it for whatever reason |
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| [16:45:45] | Jay2k1: | jams: you could configure logrotate |
| [16:47:11] | Jay2k1: | jams: what that does is basically rename the current log, touch a new one, equip it with proper owner/group and permissions and then reload apache (so it writes to the new log file) |
| [16:47:17] | clever: | yeah, logrotate, weekly, keep 520 would archive 10 years |
| [16:47:40] | clever: | delaycompress is usualy also required |
| [16:47:49] | Jay2k1: | and old logs get gzipped automatically |
| [16:48:13] | Jay2k1: | and you can remove them whenever you feel like it |
| [16:48:29] | clever: | it can also auto-delete after a certain timeframe |
| [16:48:46] | Jay2k1: | you mean besides the rotate value? |
| [16:49:10] | clever: | yeah, it would rename&compress weekly, and keep for example 10 weeks worth of compressed logs |
| [16:49:51] | Jay2k1: | that's when you use rotate 10 in conjunction with weekly |
| [16:50:11] | Jay2k1: | or is that 10 weeks in total |
| [16:50:37] | Jay2k1: | i mean, there's compressed logs plus the last which is uncompressed yet plus the current |
| [16:51:38] | Jay2k1: | also, if you include the logs in a file-based backup, using the "dateext" option is helpful |
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| [16:59:34] | stuartm: | jams: chances are no-one will ever need to refer to it, but I'd zip it and keep it around for a few weeks |
| [17:11:17] | jams: | Jay2k1, yah i'm aware..more or just asking if anybody wants to keep the file |
| [17:11:53] | jams: | you never know |
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| [17:12:58] | Jay2k1: | oh this is the dev channel, i take it you provide some kind of public testing machine |
| [17:13:09] | Jay2k1: | wasn't paying attention |
| [17:15:51] | skd5aner: | he's referring to the server that hosts mythtv.org |
| [17:16:10] | skd5aner: | and everything that goes along with that (wiki, trac, git, etc) |
| [17:17:19] | Jay2k1: | ugh. i'm dumb, sorry about that |
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| [17:20:50] | jams: | no troubles jay2k1 |
| [17:23:14] | jams: | gzipping the file now |
| [17:23:42] | jams: | heh that file started March 2012 |
| [17:41:41] | jams: | woo 34GB down to 3 |
| [17:41:49] | jams: | the magic of gzip and ascii |
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| [18:01:50] | stuartm: | jams: it's on the small side considering |
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| [19:30:07] | stuartm: | sphery: just a heads up that I'm about to push the long talked about schema change which adds a 'recgroups' table |
| [19:30:29] | stuartm: | it's not used to it's full potential yet – I've ensured we save/read everything to this table and added recgroupid columns to recorded and record, but I haven't transition ProgramInfo, PBB et al to actually use the ID instead of the string |
| [19:31:08] | stuartm: | after two protocol changes this week I've just run out of the necessary energy to make a third so soon |
| [19:33:24] | stuartm: | on the plus side, when (if) I do, it will result in a small speed bump since we'll be serialising a <16 bit integer instead of a string of indeterminate length |
| [19:48:53] | stichnot: | stuartm: cool. |
| [19:51:01] | sphery: | stuartm: can we call it something other than recgroups--like labels |
| [19:51:06] | sphery: | I want it to be used for more than just recordings |
| [19:51:38] | sphery: | otherwise, sounds very good |
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| [19:52:02] | stuartm: | are you sure? that _will_ mean me re-compiling ;) |
| [19:52:26] | sphery: | hehe, I probably should have drawn up the schema plan I had for it |
| [19:52:31] | sphery: | sorry for late notice |
| [19:52:41] | sphery: | but I'm hoping to use it on all media files |
| [19:53:39] | sphery: | (so you could list all your media labeled 'Kids', for example) |
| [19:53:59] | stuartm: | yeah, I'm not sure how it fits in with your tagging idea, I just needed to put the recgroup names/passwords in the same place to make it easier for the services stuff |
| [19:54:20] | sphery: | I guess it's fine if you want to go ahead with what you've got |
| [19:54:31] | sphery: | I can modify later when I make some mythtv time (probably won't be too soon, anyway) |
| [19:55:08] | sphery: | I will have to add in some other stuff, anyway, so other changes will be easy to do at the same time |
| [19:55:40] | sphery: | anyway, glad that first step toward tagging is in progress--and thanks |
| [19:55:40] | stuartm: | current recgroup stuff assumes a 1 <> 1 mapping, whereas with tags I'd imagine a recording/media could have an unlimited number of tags/labels/groups |
| [19:55:52] | sphery: | right, that's where I want to go |
| [19:56:27] | sphery: | the part holding me back from changing it was the UI stuff--which you're much more likely to do well than I |
| [19:56:57] | sphery: | things like how to allow users to easily set up an unlimited number of labels to go on a recording rule and a recording and such |
| [19:57:21] | stuartm: | I'd like to drop the 'deleted' recgroup idea, and replace it with a 'deleted' flag, but this commit doesn't make that change because I was trying to keep the scope small (been down that rabbit hole too often in the past) |
| [19:57:56] | sphery: | yeah, Deleted recgroup doesn't make sense when there's a 1:1 mapping between recordings and recgroups |
| [19:58:02] | sphery: | but with tags, we can do it |
| [19:58:28] | sphery: | with a system-internal flag |
| [19:58:36] | sphery: | though I prefer your approach, too |
| [19:58:45] | stuartm: | sphery: well one of the goals would be to restore recordings back to the recording group they were in when they are undeleted |
| [19:58:53] | sphery: | so that recgroup/tags/labels become user-specified data only |
| [19:59:02] | sphery: | and internal data is stored in internal storage fields |
| [19:59:43] | stuartm: | and also so that recordings from the 'parents' recgroup don't end up in a recgroup (deleted) that the kids have access to |
| [19:59:54] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, that one too |
| [19:59:58] | sphery: | I didn't think of it :) |
| [20:00:11] | sphery: | so you haven't changed the 1:1 mapping, yet? |
| [20:01:03] | stuartm: | no, from the user-perspective not much will have changed, just the way we map recording > recgroup > password |
| [20:01:09] | sphery: | ok, cool |
| [20:01:18] | sphery: | and, yeah, calling it recgroups is fine |
| [20:01:37] | sphery: | I thought you had done more of the tagging stuff, so figured it was a good time to change name so users saw it as a different feature |
| [20:01:53] | stuartm: | and even then I've still not changed most of the code to load using the ID instead of the string – the old and the new will coincide for a little while |
| [20:01:54] | sphery: | but since it's basically the same for the user, so far, the same name is fine |
| [20:02:05] | sphery: | cool, sounds good |
| [20:02:10] | sphery: | thanks, again, for the work on it |
| [20:03:03] | stuartm: | oops, just missed my window to restart the backend |
| [20:03:43] | sphery: | sorry for distracting you |
| [20:04:56] | stuartm: | not your fault :) |
| [20:06:16] | jheizer: | Haha I hate when you end up being a minute too late to restart |
| [20:10:22] | stuartm: | sphery: I think we need the file schema stuff before we can do the one to many tagging properly, if I created the intermediate 'id' to 'tagid' table, I'd only be able to populate it with the recording id which wouldn't be the single unique 'media file id' so it would only further complicate the future migration (old id would need converting to the new id) |
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