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| [01:22:48] | skd5aner: | stuartm: no problem, I don't want to push you., I figured you'd get to it when able.. I know you've got funner things to work on, but yes, the socket thing is pretty painful here |
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| [01:30:45] | skd5aner: | gigem: thanks, that's a good way to do it!! I knew there had to be "a better way" (TM) :) |
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| [09:44:14] | MythBuild_: | build #4626 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4626 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org > |
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| [11:19:48] | MythBuild_: | build #4627 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4627 |
| [12:05:16] | stuartm: | just to prove I was wrong in that commit message, if we start serving up the docs/ via the internal server, then tv__play_8cpp_source.html is 2.5 MiB |
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| [12:27:33] | stuartm: | is anyone here still stuck on IE < 9 for any reason? |
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| [12:53:13] | kenni: | stuartm: I believe it's safe to require at least IE9. Google has even dropped supporting IE9 a couple of days ago, which means that they'll only support IE10+ from now on. |
| [12:53:26] | kenni: | http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.dk/2013/11/ . . . lorer-9.html |
| [12:55:06] | stuartm: | that's good enough for me, just need to untangle the mess that is jquery so I can figure out what parts need upgrading |
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| [17:54:56] | stuartm: | the switch to jQuery 2 means IE 6–8 is no longer supported, but since I'm already using HTML5 and CSS 3 features elsewhere it's a moot point |
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| [22:45:25] | stuartm: | the web setup code is really very elegant and a very different approach to the one I've taken for the 'webfrontend' stuff |
| [22:47:28] | stuartm: | might want to have both approaches meet somewhere in the middle – the setup stuff generates HTML in C++ code and maybe it's better for theming etc if that's actually done in a mix of server side script and service calls |
| [22:53:36] | stuartm: | in fact, that's probably the way to go – if mythsetting objects were exposed via service calls, then not only can we do the creation of the html in ecma script but third party clients can offer the configuration in whatever form they like – native android apps etc |
| [22:59:04] | stuartm: | I need to look again at xavier's frontend setting stuff too, if it used the same xml format we could have drop-in web configuration support for the frontend _and_ services configuration of frontends |
| [23:13:55] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I say stay the course... don't even /try/ to aim for a browser that is more than 1 version out of current, and look at aiming for stuff that only fully supports HTML5 and CSS3 and the latest jquery. By the time 0.28 is released, it'll be that much more in to the future anyway |
| [23:14:56] | skd5aner: | stuartm: is the intent that mythweb might remain around in a mostly-working/supported state for one more release to overlap with the new internal server? Or, you aiming for a clean cut? |
| [23:17:18] | stuartm: | skd5aner: yeah I'm quite happy to do that, especially since I don't want to be returning to this in twelve or eighteen months because it's already outdated – I just like to give people a chance to object _before_ I do something rather than after :) |
| [23:19:22] | stuartm: | skd5aner: haven't made a decision on that, I'm certainly leaning to 'clean cut' because it will focus everyone's minds on supporting/maintaining the new stuff, but it depends what state the internal version is in by the time of the release |
| [23:23:38] | skd5aner: | gotcha |
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| [23:29:04] | stuartm: | to some extent it's really up to those devs who still have an attachment to mythweb, I think euthanasia would be kinder but I'm not going to fight for it |
| [23:30:40] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I know sometimes you guys like to give 1 release "heads-up" before axing major things. I suppose since you're working on a replacement though, it's not really an "axing". |
| [23:40:04] | stuartm: | hoping that far from losing a feature, it will actually be a significant improvement with more functionality in addition to the benefits from it working out of the box with no fewer deps |
| [23:40:42] | stuartm: | no/fewer |
| [23:41:18] | skd5aner: | :) |
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| [23:51:39] | Nillerz: | Hello folks |
| [23:51:55] | Nillerz: | I need a lot of help trying to get my tv tuner to work |
| [23:51:59] | Nillerz: | Is this a good place fo rthat? |
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