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| [00:02:00] | wagnerrp: | that information can unreliably be extracted from the program id |
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| [04:32:31] | stichnot: | skd5aner: I have a mostly-baked patch to deal with stuttering in the Program Guide with the Live TV preview. Are you in a position to apply a patch and test it on your system? And if so, is it 0.27-fixes? |
| [04:44:39] | stichnot: | It works pretty well (but not perfectly) on my ION frontend, and there's probably more I can do for it. |
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| [06:02:19] | tonsofpcs: | dekarl: that's because they push out the same data that us tv stations feed in. A 5 or 6am start of day is relatively normal |
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| [09:32:57] | dekarl: | tonsofpcs: I see that behaviour on most german speaking stations. But that doesn't make it suck less. They mimmick ISO timestamps but stick their broadcastday + broadcast time in... very sick :) |
| [09:38:49] | buu: | Augh |
| [09:38:51] | buu: | Why is life so hard |
| [09:39:10] | buu: | I have my mythfrontend on a wireless network that does a minimum of 30MB/s and I still get stutter |
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| [12:46:33] | stuartm: | the sort order from GetRecordedList is wrong when using reverse ordering, but I can't spot the problem :/ |
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| [12:59:28] | natanojl: | stuartm: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . /dvr.cpp#n71 |
| [12:59:34] | natanojl: | should that be 1? |
| [12:59:56] | natanojl: | or at least > 0 |
| [13:02:16] | stuartm: | natanojl: no, that's correct, LoadFromRecorded only checks for an argument < 0 |
| [13:02:41] | natanojl: | stuartm: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . fo.cpp#n5191 |
| [13:02:56] | stuartm: | heh, I didn't look at the previous line |
| [13:03:01] | natanojl: | :) |
| [13:03:02] | stuartm: | natanojl: yeah, good spot |
| [13:03:14] | stuartm: | thanks |
| [13:03:34] | natanojl: | you're welcome |
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| [14:57:05] | skd5aner: | stichnot: yes, 0.27-fixes... I can apply patches and test there if it'll work on that branch |
| [14:58:02] | stichnot: | skd5aner: cool. I'll attach something to #11020. |
| [14:58:02] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11020 ** | |
| [14:59:19] | skd5aner: | stuartm: and chance to poke at the socket issues yet? |
| [15:01:15] | skd5aner: | s/and/any |
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| [15:39:02] | stichnot: | skd5aner: unfortunately, I had to do more manual conflict resolution for 0.27 that I'd like, but hopefully the patch will work... |
| [15:42:02] | skd5aner: | stichnot: I'll work on it after lunch :) |
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| [15:42:33] | stichnot: | Thanks. I forgot to mention, this is frontend-only, so no need to restart the backend. |
| [15:44:26] | skd5aner: | ah, good deal, thanks |
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| [16:08:30] | skd5aner: | gigem: if you got a couple mins, had a question for you about the new way to do "find and recording one showing a day rules" after the recent changes to simplify the recording options – thakns :) |
| [16:08:47] | skd5aner: | gigem: just ping me whenever – thanks |
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| [16:34:38] | gigem: | skd5aner: You have to use a search rule, of which, the custom search is the most likely. If the program you want is in the EPG, find the one that begins the cycle, press MENU, Recording Options then Custom Edit. After you're satisfied with the custom matching (i.e. the Test button shows the right programs), choose Record and fill out the rest of the rule. If the program isn't in the EPG, you need to go |
| [16:34:40] | gigem: | through Manage Recordings, Schedule Recordings then Custom Record. |
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| [16:37:03] | skd5aner: | gigem: I have a custom search rule that's been around for years... it basically says between 2–6am, find and record one showing daily of SportsCenter... however, "find and record one daily" is no longer an option – how do you set up a find and record one daily rule now? |
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| [16:38:07] | skd5aner: | gigem: I'm not seeing a filter that helps with that option |
| [16:42:48] | skd5aner: | for example, sportscenter airs on something like 5 different ESPN networks, many many times a day. I want it to only record 1 a day, within a certain window (which the custom rule defines)... however, if I try to set up a new rule with a similiar logic, I can't figure out how to do a "find 1 a day" thing |
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| [17:07:36] | skd5aner: | gigem: i understand a bit better now after finding and reading the commit where you made the change... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/a1f97 . . . 192319cddb6b |
| [17:08:49] | skd5aner: | gigem: basically, daily and weekly rule types are still valid, but only for custom rules – oddly enough, one of my custom rules still allowed this, but the other didn't until I updated it within mythweb |
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| [17:09:02] | skd5aner: | that's what I found odd :? |
| [17:16:51] | skd5aner: | oh well, I fixed it... I think somehow it didn't get correct updated in the schema update for some reason – looking at the SQL for update from 1308, I see some fields being updated that do not reflect the same values in that particular entry in my DB... so, that's probably what happened |
| [17:17:17] | skd5aner: | gigem: thank you :) |
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| [17:38:35] | skd5aner: | stichnot: ping |
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| [17:42:19] | skd5aner: | stichnot: I have updated #11020 with my findings... color me VERY impressed!!!! The changes in the patch essentially resolved nearly all of the issues in regards to EPG UX in live tv – seriously, nice work! |
| [17:42:19] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11020 ** | |
| [17:47:51] | stichnot: | skd5aner: thanks for testing! |
| [17:49:26] | stichnot: | The UI oddities are something that should improve once the massively inefficient and rarely cached backend queries are improved. |
| [17:51:58] | stichnot: | And as for UI oddities, I assume you're referring to things like various parts of the grid (time axis label, channel axis label, grid contents) updating kind of slowly and asynchronously |
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| [17:53:14] | stichnot: | This happens because sometimes, by the time the background thread is ready to do a particular chunk of work, it determines that the user has already scrolled and the results are invalid, so no point in continuing that particular update operation |
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| [17:55:38] | BlackBishop: | Hi people ! :) |
| [17:56:08] | BlackBishop: | Anyone can recommend a supported usb/ethernet dvr for europe that supports dvb-c and a CI+ cam card ? |
| [18:00:13] | stuartm: | stuarta: on BBC Parliament at 1am tomorrow I've got a 1h 40m programme (Briefings), then a 20m programme at 1:30, then a 90m programme starting at 1:50 etc |
| [18:00:30] | stuartm: | seems the EIT collision detection needs some work |
| [18:00:49] | stuartm: | it makes a pretty mess in the html guide :) |
| [18:06:11] | BlackBishop: | None ? :-s |
| [18:09:53] | skd5aner: | stichnot: correct, the grid contents and how quickly you can page through them and how quickly they update with data |
| [18:10:20] | skd5aner: | BlackBishop: you want to try in #mythtv-users |
| [18:13:00] | BlackBishop: | Ok :) Thanks. |
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| [19:21:58] | skd5aner: | stichnot: tried to go in to the non-livetv EPG to schedule a test recording... and now none of the menu actions are allow me to do anything (i.e., Record this, Recording Options | Edit Schedule, etc.) – could the patch have broken that? |
| [19:23:28] | stichnot: | Hmm, I'll have to look into that. |
| [19:25:17] | stuartm: | if no-one suggests a better alternative, MythEverywhere is going to end up sticking, even though it's not pithy enough |
| [19:25:33] | skd5aner: | stichnot: yea, it's as if the button presses aren't doing anything – it just kicks back to the EPG |
| [19:25:55] | skd5aner: | stuartm: for the new "mythweb" replacement? |
| [19:27:48] | stuartm: | skd5aner: aye |
| [19:28:06] | stuartm: | don't want to re-use mythweb because that could be very confusing |
| [19:31:57] | skd5aner: | MythPortal |
| [19:32:24] | stichnot: | skd5aner: Somehow the relevant ProgramInfo entry has become NULL and as a result the action does nothing. Definitely the patch's fault. |
| [19:33:24] | stichnot: | UbiquiMyth |
| [19:33:41] | stuartm: | which reminds me to check whether Portal 2 has been ported to linux yet |
| [19:33:42] | skd5aner: | stuartm: MythPortal, because it'll do (almost) everything mythweb was design to do, but more... (setup, services, etc.) |
| [19:38:28] | skd5aner: | stichnot: ah, glad to see that was the cause... I don't use that feature that often, and only went in to test |
| [19:41:51] | stuartm: | skd5aner: thinking it might be good to get some nominations then put it to a vote on the -users list/mythtv homepage, that will hopefully settle us on a name that users can relate to and also increase awareness/drum up interest in the new stuff |
| [19:43:13] | skd5aner: | seems like a good idea to me... as you know, I'm a fan of crowsourcing (when it makes sense) |
| [19:53:04] | dekarl1: | MythWebinterface, MythRemote (because its for the remote access and remote control), MythApp (if its getting a skin to use it on mobile devices as app), MythWebfrontend. Actually I think I like MythWebfrontend, because I see if being in between the old mythweb and the various mobile frontend solutions (once it uses HLS/JWPlayer) |
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| [20:15:45] | tlhiv_laptop: | is it possible to run mythtv using two different resolutions on two different monitors? |
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| [20:20:10] | dekarl: | tlhiv_laptop: I think you want #mythtv-users but yes it is possible. easy with two computers (haha) but a lot harder to get right with just one computer |
| [20:20:45] | tlhiv_laptop: | i go to mythtv-users ... but i want to use 1 computer ;) |
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| [20:47:39] | stuartm: | dekarl: there's already a mythremote, it's an android remote control app |
| [20:48:31] | stuartm: | and yes, I intend to create a mobile version/template/theme |
| [21:01:37] | stuartm: | webfrontend appeals |
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| [22:42:53] | stichnot: | skd5aner: line 572 of the patch, "m_programInfos[i][j] = m_programInfos[i][j];" isn't terribly useful and is probably responsible for the behavior you noticed |
| [22:48:56] | stuartm: | ! |
| [22:55:16] | stuartm: | discussion in -users reminded me that we really need to implement support for built-in amplifiers for 0.28 |
| [22:55:37] | stuartm: | or whatever we're calling the next release |
| [22:59:29] | stuartm: | jpabq: might be interesting to tie that into the signal monitor, turning on/off the amplifier automatically, although in practice most people should be fine with it permanently on (or in rare cases, off) |
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| [23:37:21] | jevidl: | I've been reading through the manual, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to use MythTV the way I'd like. Is it possible to run a backend server without a front end service, or is the front end required to schedule recordings and the like. |
| [23:37:49] | jevidl: | so very sorry, I missed that this is the dev channel until right after I sent that. I will head to mythtv-users |
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| [23:55:56] | tonsofpcs: | dekarl: it's what we do here in the states... |
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