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| [00:45:59] | stichnot: | "Microsoft SE Keyboard" – http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs27/f/2008/138/7/ . . . Eastwood.jpg |
| [00:46:32] | ** knightr is ROTFLing... ** | |
| [00:51:17] | gary_buhrmaster: | stichnot: While that is funny, as I recall, on the IBM 5150 keyboard, it was not possible for people to hit C-A-D with a single hand. I believe the differently able were very unhappy with that. |
| [00:56:37] | gary_buhrmaster: | stichnot: Eventually, even with keyboard enhancements (a C-A on the right side), there were still issues for those with physical challenges. It was one of the reasons for "sticky keys" (which I still occasionally get "stuck" on :-) |
| [01:17:55] | wagnerrp: | you can disable those |
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| [01:22:46] | dblain: | jya: I did make a change to configure & common.mak located in the FFmpeg directory- It was a minor change to prefix the libraries with myth. 1 common change, the reset isolated to windows. |
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| [07:04:52] | jya_: | what's the easiest/best/recommended way to cross-compile mythtv ? |
| [07:05:09] | jya_: | trying to compile myth on my raspberry pi but this is taking forever.... |
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| [08:14:35] | stuarta: | jya_: i've not done it, but i'm guessing it would be the usual, get/build a cross compile tool chain, then libs, then build app |
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| [08:39:26] | stuartm: | gary_buhrmaster: and it was a very good job that he was 'stuck' with C-A-D, the idea of a single key on the keyboard to reboot seems like the single worst idea possible |
| [08:41:05] | stuartm: | C-A-D was originally meant to be C-A-Esc but it was found that even that was too easy to hit by mistake because it was all on the same side of the keyboard |
| [08:41:53] | stuarta: | C-A-D however is a little difficult if you only have 1 arm... |
| [08:42:08] | stuarta: | not that i know anybody in that situation |
| [08:43:56] | stuartm: | but for me, it was Bills tacit acknowledgement that you would _need_ to reboot so often that they wanted a dedicated single key which although not entirely MicroSofts fault (early memory/processors not having the fault protection of later hardware), still says a lot about his approach to problem solving |
| [08:46:42] | stuarta: | paper over the cracks rather than fix it |
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| [08:49:41] | stuarta: | one of the reasons their new versions fall flat is the always seem to focus on new ui bling rather than stability |
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| [08:54:26] | stuartm: | I heard stories that parts of the window's kernel where such a convoluted mess that it effectively became policy not to touch them because of the potential for breakage, as a result they endeavoured for a long time to workaround problems deep down in the kernel at a higher level, or even in user-space |
| [08:55:10] | stuarta: | it's a shame, because the core kernel design was a good one. |
| [08:55:29] | stuartm: | which of course would only have meant that as time passed, fewer and fewer people actually knew and understood that code |
| [09:13:49] | jya_: | stuarta: thanks... I'm currently following a blog that use distcc ... will see how it goes |
| [09:16:49] | jya_: | stuartm: that sounds like mythtv :) |
| [09:22:43] | stuarta: | haha |
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| [10:38:04] | jya_: | stuarta: do you have to built all dependency libs locally when cross-compiling ???? |
| [10:38:09] | jya_: | that will take me forever :( |
| [10:39:15] | stuarta: | or somebody has to have done it for you |
| [10:39:36] | stuarta: | it's been a few years since i've done it |
| [10:39:42] | stuarta: | like 15+ :) |
| [10:46:14] | stuarta: | jya_: you may be able to install the packages for the destination device into a chroot and use those |
| [10:55:45] | jya_: | distcc is working here... not sure how much quicker it makes everything.. the pi has a rather slow ethernet connection |
| [10:55:56] | jya_: | having said that, it's probably not much slower than the SD card I'm using |
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| [12:09:35] | jya_: | stuartm: how do activate the OpenGL 2 code ? |
| [12:10:49] | jya_: | and additional question: do we support using OpenGL ES in place of OpenGL ? |
| [12:11:40] | stuarta: | configure looks for opengl es so in theory it should work, markk did a fair bit of work on that |
| [12:12:12] | stuartm: | jya_: you need to change the ThemePainter from opengl to opengl2 in the database (it's not currently offered as an option in the UI) |
| [12:12:45] | stuartm: | I was using it for months until last week when it suddenly stopped working, all I would get was a black screen :( |
| [12:12:49] | jya_: | stuarta: and you need qt to be compiled with OpenGL es isn't it ? |
| [12:13:51] | stuartm: | opengl2 es is an option, but I've never tried it for the UI |
| [12:36:43] | jya_: | stuartm: what are the advantages of opengl2 vs OpenGL code ? |
| [12:41:20] | stuartm: | I don't know what all the advantages are, but it makes better use of opengl for the rendering of things like shapes (uses shaders etc) |
| [12:43:03] | stuartm: | should produce much better results for round/rounded shapes |
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| [16:06:16] | jerrymr: | stuartm: I think Bill meant he wanted a single button to bring up the login window, not a single button for reboot. |
| [16:40:26] | stuartm: | he didn't mean that, he was talking about IBM refusing to add a single button for rebooting the system – when it came to NT (several years later) they could have chosen any key/key combination to bring up the login window |
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| [16:43:49] | stuartm: | at least that's the context given in all the media reports (I wasn't there :) ) |
| [16:45:14] | stuartm: | in the words of the IBM guy who designed the keyboard layout, "I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous" |
| [16:46:16] | stuartm: | a joke which apparently Bill took badly :) |
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| [19:30:00] | johanbr: | Hi. I'm trying to get myth to scan for EIT less often. In eitscanner.cpp, I've changed activeScanNextTrig = MythDate::current() into activeScanNextTrig = MythDate::current().addSecs(3600); and this delays the initial scan, but once that happens Myth continues to scan continuously. |
| [19:30:26] | johanbr: | Does activeScanNextTrig get set somewhere else, or is it just the scan never terminates? Any pointers would be appreciated. |
| [19:31:14] | danielk22: | johanbr: did you try the EIT settings in mythtv-setup in the General section? |
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| [19:35:16] | johanbr: | danielk22: I guess you're referring to "Backend idle before EIT crawl" ? If I've understood correctly, that only applies if there are recordings scheduled. |
| [19:35:37] | johanbr: | I.e, if there are no recordings, there'll still be continuous EIT scanning |
| [19:39:46] | johanbr: | By the way, the reason I want to avoid the continuous scanning is that it makes my HDHomerun tuner pretty hot, it takes CPU on the backend, and it means there's a continous 18 Mbit/sec stream on the lan. |
| [19:39:50] | danielk22: | The backend idle only applies when there are no recordings. But what you really want is for the EIT scanning to stop once a complete set of programs has been collected. That is something that was discussed a long long time ago, but it was never high priority enough to get implementd. |
| [19:44:43] | johanbr: | Right. I've seen some patches on trac, but they appear to have bit-rotted by now. |
| [19:46:43] | johanbr: | I wouldn't mind playing with this a bit, but I'm not familiar with the Myth code base and don't have much time so progress is likely to be slow. |
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| [22:10:12] | wagnerrp: | web server is unresponsive, restarting httpd |
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| [22:27:09] | papertigers_: | have you guys seen a leak in fds? mythbacke 23133 mythtv 160u a_inode 0,9 0 5473 [eventfd] |
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| [22:35:49] | stichnot: | papertigers_: what version? |
| [22:39:47] | papertigers_: | stichnot: MythTV Version : 5b917e8 |
| [22:39:48] | papertigers_: | MythTV Branch : fixes/0.27 |
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| [22:42:30] | papertigers_: | which then leads to, (process:23133): GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files |
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| [23:10:30] | papertigers_: | If i can find where this system is coring to, I will create a bug for it I guess |
| [23:11:58] | stichnot: | In your example, is it saying 5473 fds? |
| [23:13:54] | stichnot: | My backend has been running for a week and has 179 fds (as measured by ls /proc/`pidof mythbackend`/fd | wc -l |
| [23:13:55] | papertigers_: | stichnot: what do you mean |
| [23:14:10] | stichnot: | I mean, how many is too many? :) |
| [23:14:12] | papertigers_: | oh it was growing…400 then 500 |
| [23:14:19] | papertigers_: | and then it cores |
| [23:14:24] | trace_: | Hi all. First of all thanks to the people working on MythTV. I have a question that I could not find the answer to myself (MythTV docs and google). The control communication protocol between backend and frontend seems well documented. However, I can't find information regarding which protocol is used for video transportation in live tv. It myth using standard protocols as rtsp, rtmp, http or similar? I apologize in advance if the question seems d |
| [23:14:24] | trace_: | umb. |
| [23:14:57] | trace_: | it=is |
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