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[00:06:09] | jya: | stuartm: you use ubuntu now? I thought you used an obscure distribution (can't remember the name now) |
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[00:31:54] | pvr4me: | Hi: I'm trying to build 0.26-fixes on a Core Duo machine but configure bails saying "No aligned memory allocator but SSE enabled ..." |
[00:32:19] | pvr4me: | 0.25 built OK on this machine. |
[00:33:34] | pvr4me: | configure used to set malloc_aligned for Darwin (and other OS) but that was apparently removed in an ffmpeg resync |
[00:34:14] | pvr4me: | Do I really need to use --enable-mem-align-hack? |
[00:48:54] | pvr4me: | Hmmm, just did as told and looked at config.ep, it ends with an error message "ld: library not found -lrt" |
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[01:01:55] | jya: | pvr4me: don't use the mem align hack |
[01:01:55] | jya: | which machine are you building on ? |
[01:01:56] | pvr4me: | An older Mac Mini |
[01:02:01] | jya: | it doesn't really matter if a lib is missing, config.ep will show you the entire log of configure… without librt you won't have the option to enable realtime features |
[01:02:06] | pvr4me: | OS X 10.5.8 |
[01:02:21] | jya: | is it a core duo or core 2 duo? |
[01:02:32] | pvr4me: | Core Duo (32 bit) |
[01:02:38] | jya: | how much ram? |
[01:02:43] | pvr4me: | 2 GB |
[01:03:11] | jya: | http://www.avenard.org/files/mythtv/mac/MythF . . . its-10.5.dmg |
[01:03:15] | jya: | use that instead |
[01:03:41] | jya: | it's an absolute pain to compile a 32 bits version of mythtv these days, because Qt doesn't ship any Qt 32 bits |
[01:04:00] | jya: | that's an old build that I built in a 10.6 VM |
[01:04:12] | pvr4me: | yabut, this is for MacPorts. And yes, it took hours to build Qt from source! |
[01:04:35] | jya: | i thought macport finally had resolved all issues for 0.25? |
[01:04:58] | jya: | maybe you should try updating your xcode |
[01:05:02] | pvr4me: | Yup, 0.25 is fine; this is 0.26-fixes |
[01:05:06] | jya: | on a mac, there's no need for aligned memory |
[01:05:17] | jya: | macos's malloc is aligned by default |
[01:05:31] | jya: | so no need for fancy workaround |
[01:06:05] | jya: | do you just want a frontend or you want the whole lot? |
[01:06:19] | pvr4me: | OK, I'll add a simple patch that forces memory alignment |
[01:06:55] | pvr4me: | My port always installs the full frontend and backend; user chooses what to run |
[01:08:01] | pvr4me: | Personally, I just test building on that machine although it did surprisingly well with 720P and 1080i OTA |
[01:08:27] | pvr4me: | Some dropped frames but not horrific |
[01:08:34] | jya: | i can't remember which graphic adapter is in that one.. |
[01:08:42] | jya: | but i don't believe it supports VDA |
[01:09:29] | pvr4me: | GMA 950 |
[01:09:39] | jya: | yeah that's right… so no vda, and not much better running on linux either |
[01:10:31] | jya: | i think it's just borderline for anything. I have a core 2 duo @ 2GHz, and when running the 64 builds, as it's about 5–6% slower, its just too slow to play some 1080i mpeg2 streams |
[01:10:37] | jya: | must run the 32 bits build |
[01:11:36] | jya: | reminds me that I have to finish the packager to package the python/perl myth extension |
[01:12:02] | jya: | problem with that is python only works on the machine it was compiled for |
[01:12:07] | jya: | so a 10.9 build will only work on 10,9 etc |
[01:12:13] | pvr4me: | "Work flows to the competent until they're submerged"! |
[01:12:34] | jya: | rather annoying having now to provide 3 or 4 builds one for each version of mac os |
[01:12:49] | jya: | interesting say… I guess I take this as a compliment :) |
[01:13:12] | pvr4me: | With MacPorts, I force the install of a specific version of Python and all the required modules are built with it |
[01:13:42] | jya: | yeah, but I need to manage with the built-in version of python |
[01:13:57] | pvr4me: | Understood |
[01:14:11] | jya: | and apple has built python with a flag that checks the version and it must match to run |
[01:14:37] | jya: | something about "python was built with flag xxx, but module built with yyy: aborting |
[01:14:50] | jya: | and flag xxx is --mac-version=10.x |
[01:15:30] | jya: | pretty much kills the whole idea of shipping python binaries packaged |
[01:15:41] | pvr4me: | So, you pretty much need an installer script to build the modules during the install? |
[01:16:33] | pvr4me: | I know that's possible with a .dmg installer but I've never really looked at it |
[01:16:49] | jya: | that's right… I simply installed the missing python plugins (sql, time and another one). Then when the frontend starts, I force the python libraries path environment variable so it first search in the application bundle |
[01:17:07] | jya: | if I was to use an installer, then yes, you could do it at install time |
[01:17:27] | jya: | but I wanted to keep a simple self-contained .app. so need to do it at build time |
[01:17:58] | jya: | maybe I should revisit the issue and create an installer instead |
[01:18:11] | jya: | would be much simpler |
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[01:22:56] | pvr4me: | Going back to the memory alignment issue, I don't understand why the test fails on the Core Duo machine but works on my other (64 bit) Macs? What should the full name of the missing library be (-lrt)? |
[01:24:03] | pvr4me: | Is it something that came with 10.6+? |
[01:28:46] | jya: | pvr4me: there's no replacement for librt on a mac… librt is a unix (linux/solaris) lib |
[01:29:43] | jya: | configure looks for it, doesn't find it so config.h doesn't have the real time (and so you don't get to see the real-time options that shows normally in the playback config) |
[01:29:53] | jya: | IMHO, they serve no purpose on modern machine |
[01:30:29] | jya: | pvr4me: it's likely no one in ffmpeg bothered to check their changes would break something on 10.5 running in 32 bits machines |
[01:31:08] | jya: | I mean, only one generation of mac used that processor almost 6 years ago |
[01:32:30] | pvr4me: | OK, so it is a harmless message that just happened to get logged to config.ep at about the time it failed the memory alignment test? |
[01:32:57] | jya: | probably |
[01:33:44] | jya: | in 0.27 the requirement for aligned memory is gone anyway.. will just run slower |
[01:36:55] | pvr4me: | Just put config.ep in my dropbox if you want a look: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4or3a8ug6y6rfk/config.ep |
[01:42:53] | jya: | I guess if on 32 bits you could enable memalign-hack |
[01:43:09] | jya: | doesnt' really matter on a mac |
[01:43:16] | jya: | unless 10.5 is different.. let me check |
[01:44:08] | jya: | nope; same deal: The allocated memory is aligned such that it can be |
[01:44:09] | jya: | used for any data type, including AltiVec- and SSE-related types. The |
[01:44:10] | jya: | free() function frees allocations that were created via the preceding |
[01:44:11] | jya: | allocation functions. |
[01:44:26] | jya: | that's from man malloc on my 10.5 VM |
[01:44:56] | pvr4me: | OK, I'll just force it |
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[03:26:58] | jya: | wagnerrp: where can I retrieve the hash of a particular file in the video library? Is it stored in the VideoMetadata ? |
[03:28:46] | jya: | ah.. GetHish |
[03:28:48] | jya: | GetHash |
[03:35:13] | tonsofpcs: | Feature request: option to ignore PSIP. Feature request: option to use last known PSIP if PSIP disappears |
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[04:39:46] | jya: | what's psip? |
[04:43:18] | dekarl: | the Service Information, like PAT/PMT to tell you which progams there are and what components each has |
[04:43:31] | dekarl: | PSIP is the ATSC style name and SI the DVB style name |
[05:09:00] | dekarl: | tonsofpcs: we already have feature request #7205, add PSIP generation for transports which lack PAT/PMT |
[05:09:00] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7205 ** | |
[05:48:29] | jya: | stuartm: would there be an easy (and fast) way to to integrate the "busy" animation within a notification? or are the images etc.. used of a static size? |
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[08:40:15] | jya: | knightr: I'm adding (well, more accurately), I'm replacing two strings for the metadata search in mythvideo |
[08:51:46] | jya: | has anyone attempted to compile a frontend for the pi ? |
[08:52:32] | jya: | Interested into doing something like that, I have a jailbroken ATV2 running xbmc but that sucks : crashes all the time |
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[08:58:49] | jya: | seems someone has made packages for it… cool… may look into adding support for hardware decoding then |
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[11:06:37] | knightr: | jya, ok, thank you! |
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[11:17:00] | stuarta: | man the f19–32bit builder is slow. since updating it to f19 it's taking ~1hr per build |
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[12:03:53] | jya_: | wagnerrp: the file hash as returned by GetHash, or even calculated is returned as "NULL" ; do you now the reason? this cause that only one metadata search at a time is allowed. Probably reduce the potential for bugs that way, so not sure I'll look more into it |
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[12:10:31] | bobweaver: | Hey all I have made a offline installer for all the sdk stuff that I have been working on. I am uploading a video and will post here when uploaded |
[12:22:22] | stuarta: | which sdk is that? |
[12:24:02] | bobweaver: | stuarta, the one that I have been working on for the last 5 months |
[12:24:29] | bobweaver: | it makes the frontend in qml and has a whole sdk kit that comes with all the libs that I have made |
[12:25:33] | bobweaver: | buttons to hack on the backend and mythlibs and what not also. has a tool to view db and change it, has all the services api and help section built in and has other tools also |
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[12:27:06] | bobweaver: | I have also made a offline installer that is cross platform and can be installed on anything vanilla |
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[12:27:32] | bobweaver: | stuarta, Youtube says that the video will be uploaded in 20 minutes |
[12:28:05] | bobweaver: | has error checking seg checking valgrind mem checking ect also |
[12:30:18] | bobweaver: | stuarta, it is a hacked up version of qtcreator for the IDE |
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[12:47:53] | bobweaver: | Her is a video of the installer in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0zfMO9LihU Hope you all like it :) |
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[13:04:39] | jya: | it copies files !!!! amazing :) |
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[13:27:04] | bobweaver: | lol jya yeah it is the compiling that takes the time |
[13:31:23] | bobweaver: | jya, it is better then a command line install it is better then what is being used atm. so dont see why there is a issue. I mean no one has to use it. and no one has. all I know is that I never have to update my frontend anymore or DB for frontend or deal with bugs from legacy code |
[13:31:38] | bobweaver: | IE stupid things |
[13:32:30] | bobweaver: | like if music db schema is off I dont have to worry about that in front end. I also have a gui to make frontend themes and it is 10X more powerful then the XML stuff that is used atm |
[13:32:50] | bobweaver: | in fact it is more powerful then the xml stuff used for xbmc |
[13:32:56] | bobweaver: | themes that is |
[13:33:47] | jya: | i wasn't commenting on the tools, the sdk or the product itself |
[13:34:05] | bobweaver: | Or Myth could stay in the dark ages and not be able to install full frontends to android and other things. And just be plugins. |
[13:34:11] | jya: | but making a 4 minutes videos about the installer …. i find it funny.. maybe it's just me |
[13:34:34] | bobweaver: | no it is not just you I also find it funny |
[13:34:57] | bobweaver: | I also find things like DB schema funny and things not recording on time funny |
[13:36:12] | jya: | riiiight |
[13:37:05] | bobweaver: | I also find things like this to be crazy (qsql not loading) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJz2POAJFNM |
[13:38:11] | bobweaver: | I have tried everything that I can to get qsql to load the driver but it will not. make /me want to snap. |
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[13:48:50] | bobweaver: | I also have to fix up the Guide. I need to add popup if mythfill is needed for guide (SD) also need to either 1 make a c++ function that sorts the time of the shows coming back from the services api or just query the db itself and make ListView/Model out of that. either way it is a pain in the .... |
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[13:50:50] | bobweaver: | in other words the services api is not returning the guide back in order of time and is just giving random time after time like 8am --10am next would be something like 7:30pm — 8:00pm just not in order |
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[15:23:53] | stuartm: | incidentally that sanity check is annoying when you've intentionally used a read-only share e.g. for videos that you don't want the family to accidentally delete |
[15:24:43] | stuartm: | think we need a more intelligent approach, do the checks at the time the user adds the storage location not every single time you exit mythtv-setup |
[15:25:09] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: ^^ |
[15:33:04] | sphery: | just disable the check since a) mythtv-setup needs replacing and b) users can specify directories that exist only on other systems when defining their master backend SG directory lists |
[15:33:17] | sphery: | besides the read-only or whatever else |
[15:33:23] | sphery: | and it seems the check does more harm than good |
[15:33:52] | sphery: | if the user defines a bad directory and we can't write to it when we're told to, just give them a good runtime error and let them miss the recording |
[15:34:18] | sphery: | stuartm: ^^^ |
[15:35:32] | sphery: | and it will close out #10287, too |
[15:35:32] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10287 ** | |
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[16:01:22] | dblain: | bobweaver: as for the service api not returning the guide in time order... seems to me that fixing the service would be better than trying to work around it. |
[16:02:09] | dblain: | The Service API is a work in progress... needs as much attention as it can get. |
[16:02:52] | bobweaver: | dblain, thanks yeah I have been thinking about that I am sure that a simple sql statement add on ORDERBY or a ASSCED thingy would not be that hard |
[16:03:03] | bobweaver: | dblain, I could not figure out the bug system |
[16:04:41] | bobweaver: | but you are right I should look into this, I just hate waiting :) |
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[16:05:40] | dblain: | I'm trying to find more time to work on mythtv... if you have a patch for it, I will see if I can get it committed as soon as the freeze is lifted. |
[16:06:50] | bobweaver: | when is the freeze lifted ? |
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[16:08:47] | dblain: | not sure... should be in the next couple/few weeks... depends on how the RC goes. |
[16:17:30] | bobweaver: | thanks dblain |
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[17:12:22] | dekarl: | stuartm, btw http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id . . . a8bf107c58d1 introduced a signedness mismatch in musiccommon.cpp:2234 |
[17:30:54] | stuartm: | ugh, I forgot that QT insist on using signed ints for .size() and .count() despite a negative value being impossible |
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[21:16:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, I wonder if that guy is running some mythtv-setup wrapper or a distro that inserted the directory for him. |
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[22:18:41] | Blue1: | I am having an issue running mythtv-setup – posted in the forum, they directed me here instead. |
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