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aloril_, amessina, Anssi, Beirdo, bobweaver, brfransen, Captain_Murdoch, CeilingKitten, Chutt, clever, coling_, Cougar, David_Miller, dblain, dekarl, ElmerFudd, fetzerch, ghoti, Gibby, gigem_, gregL, GreyFoxx, Guest21029, J-e-f-f-A, jams, jarle, jarryd, jheizer_, joe_____, joki, jpabq_, jpharvey__, jst, jwhite, jya, jya_, kenni, knightr_, kormoc, KungFuJe1us, kurre2, kwmonroe`, len, lux_2, madsara, MaverickTech, moparisthebest, MythBuild, MythLogBot, natanojl_, neufeld, Nothing4You, nyloc, peper03, poptix, purserj_, rhpot1991, rsiebert, Seeker`, seld_, Sharky112065, skd5aner, sl1ce, SmallR2002, sphery, sraue, stichnot, stuarta, stuartm, taylorr, tgm4883, toeb, tonsofpcs, tris, unforgiven512, wagnerrp, wahrhaft_, wolfgang3, XDS2010_, _charly_
Saturday, July 20th, 2013, 00:06 UTC
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[01:01:58] jya_: dekarl: that's bad...
[01:02:27] jya_: but having said that, GetNotificationCenter() will always return true
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[14:20:00] peper03: knightr_: In [9160de0] (https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/9160de0) you changed the menu description line in DVDRingBuffer::GetDescForPos from a simple QString to tr. I have no qualms with that in general, but I would think more is needed to make that string translatable. The menu name that is inserted into the text is hard-coded in English (see dvdnav_menu_table at the top of DVDRingBuffer.cpp)
[14:21:39] knightr_: peper03, oops, I thought the info came from the DVD... Thanks, I'll go check it right now...
[14:22:58] peper03: I would guess the easiest/cleanest solution would be to change dvdnav_menu_table to be an array of QStrings in the form 'Title menu', 'Root menu' etc. rather than what we're doing at the moment with '%1 menu'?
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[14:23:20] jya_: stuartm: do you intend to fix the mythui animations before the 21st or not? just need to know what to expect...
[14:24:26] knightr_: peper03, oops, I don't know how I missed this one...
[14:24:46] knightr_: peper03, both ways would work...
[14:26:49] knightr_: if it is kept like that, we would need to add translation comments ora disambiguation string (it's similar to a comment but is also use in the key used to lookup the translation, it's mostly used when there is a risk the same text could be translated in two different way in the same class/translation context...)
[14:27:21] peper03: knightr_: Is there not potential for problems by building strings using something like '%1 menu'? I could imagine there may be some languages that need some different inflection or whatnot on the translation for 'menu' depending on the gender/whatever of 'title', 'root', 'subpicure' etc.
[14:28:19] knightr_: peper03, there is a bigger risk of that, yes...
[14:29:59] knightr_: OK, is it OK with you if I put menu in the table and translate the table (or would you like to do it)?
[14:30:48] wagnerrp: do we have a copy of the web pages anywhere but on the server?
[14:30:59] knightr_: (BTW, if you do it, please don't use QObject::tr(), I'm removing all of those, they are a pain for the translator to work with...)
[14:33:03] peper03: I'm fine with having the full text in the table. It does look a bit redundant from an English-speaking perspective but from a translation perspective I think it's the cleanest solution. It's only used in this one case, so there are no side-effects to worry about.
[14:33:16] peper03: If you want to do it, feel free, otherwise I'm happy to do it.
[14:34:43] knightr_: peper03, I might as well fix what I have done.. :-) Thank you for the heads up!
[14:34:56] peper03: knightr_: np :)
[14:37:12] knightr_: I'll finish what I was currently working on and I'll get to it as soon as it's done...
[14:39:34] ** knightr_ wish those settings page were more similar... **
[14:39:43] knightr_: s/page/pages
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[14:44:46] stuartm: jya: I'll try, might end up being a temporary hack though
[14:45:26] stuartm: not everything has gone to plan this week and I just haven't had the time
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[15:00:45] knightr_: stuartm, I am not asking you to do it (since you mentioned being very busy) but who could cut the alpha and post on the site this week-end (the names that come to mind all seem pretty busy with things other than MythTV)?
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[16:27:20] knightr_: wagnerrp, can you cut the alpha and if you can, could you please do it tomorrow?
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[16:57:03] paul-h: knightr_: Is there any problem with me changing the 'o' in options to upper case here http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . ox.cpp#n2423
[16:57:45] paul-h: All the other menu items have it in upper case so I just want to make it consistent with the others
[17:00:42] knightr_: paul-h, no, go ahead, it would be a lot more consistent with the other entries as you said... We're not in string freeze yet and even if we were in soft this could be considered a bug fix I guess... (and if we were in hard string freeze I could fix it in the 2 English translations I maintain and ask Nick Morrott to do the same in the one he maintains...)
[17:01:21] wagnerrp: knightr_: never done one, don't know the procedure
[17:01:54] knightr_: paul-h, if you were to do it in hard a little ping would be appreciated so I could warn the translators if needed...
[17:02:42] paul-h: knightr_: Thanks, I'll do it later tonight while I remember
[17:03:58] paul-h: Just happened to spot it while working on something for my personal fork
[17:05:03] knightr_: wagnerrp, I was afraid that was going to be the case (ite that you most likely could do it but didn't have the information on how to do it...). Thank you... Any idea who has the info and the time to do it? (I know Gavin can but I doubt he has the time...)
[17:06:47] knightr_: paul-h, no problem, thank you for the ping...
[17:08:25] wagnerrp: Beirdo: ^^^
[17:11:33] ** knightr_ is ROTFL, thanks! **
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[17:39:25] knightr_: peper03, the part menu is also know as chapter menu, right? (if it is I am tempted to add a comment/disambiguation striing so that people translators correctly understand what it is)
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[18:07:29] peper03: knightr_: Yes. There seem to be one or two terms that have different names depending on which side of the TV screen you are sat :)
[18:08:21] peper03: That's the only one that comes to me that could affect translations, though.
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[18:19:32] knightr_: peper03, Thanks! I'll put a comment so that translators more familiar with the word chapter know what this one is about..
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[20:53:47] stuartm: peper03: got a DVD here where the sub-menus (episodes, setup, extras) aren't accessible, it appears to do nothing when you select those entries but then stops responding to everything except Escape
[20:54:17] stuartm: would you prefer a cut-down ISO, VOBS or just some logs?
[20:55:40] stuartm: oh, and booking seems broken on this one too, just exited playback and when I resumed from the bookmark it went to the menu instead
[20:56:41] stuartm: initial highlight position is wrong too, hat-trick of bugs :)
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[21:06:12] knightr_: Is there a way to "see" what the code looks likea after using Qt macros (like some sort of preprocessor output or something). I'm getting "braces around scalar initializer for type..." when I try to use a rarely used (but that we have used before) Qt macro and the problem appears to be directly caused by it...
[21:07:39] knightr_: (and it works when I use the more common, but which doesn't suit my purpose this time, macro...)
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[21:12:08] clever: knightr_: one sec
[21:12:41] clever: knightr_: run 'make' and figure out what the entire compile command was, then cd into that directory and re-run it with -E, and change the -o to a different file
[21:13:03] clever: that tells it to run the preprocessor but not to compile it
[21:13:44] wagnerrp: note, the output tends to be really messy
[21:13:56] wagnerrp: several times the length of the original
[21:14:13] knightr_: clever,Thank you! I am almost beginning to think it's some sort of Qt or gcc bug...
[21:14:21] clever: yeah, every single include file is included
[21:14:47] knightr_: ouch :-)
[21:14:48] wagnerrp: and the preprocessor just likes to add empty lines
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[21:21:52] knightr_: geez, that's insane... It looks like the code for the problem I want to track down starts at line 86638..
[21:22:01] wagnerrp: yep
[21:27:10] knightr_: Looks likw the macro is misbehaving, I'm see in the preprocessor output something which should have been stripped (it used by the Qt tools but it shouldn't be compiled in...)
[21:32:04] peper03: stuartm: Damn! Probably best to start with logs. playback & debug. I expect I might need more to work out what's going on, but let's try logs for starters. I can't imagine why restoring from a bookmark doesn't work since the whole VM state is now saved (unless it's resuming from an old bookmark for whatever reason).
[21:34:03] wagnerrp: if the whole state is saved now, could we store "bookmarks" to the main menu and start of playback?
[21:35:12] peper03: wagnerrp: In principle, yes. Apart from being blocked in menus, there's also a block on setting a bookmark when the length is less that two minutes. Wasn't really sure about the reasoning for that.
[21:35:43] wagnerrp: it's probably expected any bookmark that early on was a mistake
[21:36:31] peper03: It's more 'allow bookmarks if the title length > 2 minutes'.
[21:37:11] peper03: The main title is not likely to be less that 2 minutes but for extras etc. I could imagine it.
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[22:33:42] wagnerrp: kenni: seems you offended someone
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[22:43:41] natanojl_: yeah, he seemed a bit touchy
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[22:49:08] bobweaver: How do I pass a string into a function for a QSqlQuery ? Example: http://pastebin.com/L0VnGZw5 Thanks :)
[22:50:00] wagnerrp: with bindValue? i'm not sure what you're asking
[22:50:11] bobweaver: wagnerrp, yeah
[22:50:23] bobweaver: lines 1 3 and 4
[22:50:33] wagnerrp: no, i mean that's how you do it
[22:50:49] bobweaver: oh
[22:51:06] wagnerrp: the query performs string/replace on the value you define, as well as any necessary escaping or transformation to make it into something mysql likes
[22:51:45] wagnerrp: except it would be model.bindValue(), not qry.bindValue()
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[22:53:09] bobweaver: thanks wagnerrp trying that now
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[22:55:49] knightr_: looks like I missed something but I am not quite sure what..
[22:56:02] wagnerrp: ?
[22:56:57] knightr_: your comment at 18:33 Raymond, I see it but not why you said it..
[22:57:19] wagnerrp: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11698#comment:2
[22:57:45] knightr_: ROTFL..
[22:59:41] wagnerrp: it's like he's making up words just to sound big
[23:01:06] bobweaver: wagnerrp, thanks a ton that worked great ! Just wish that there was a way that I could take the libs that are in libMythwhatever and use them in qml instead of re-writing all the models and what not that are all ready there.
[23:01:17] bobweaver: wagnerrp, do you thin that that could be done ?
[23:01:30] bobweaver: let me post that example again
[23:01:37] bobweaver: well now that it is working
[23:01:43] wagnerrp: i don't know anything about QML to answer that
[23:02:04] knightr_: wagnerrp, when a person boast too much like that they are rarely as "hot" as they claim...
[23:03:29] wagnerrp: i'm a sanitation engineer!
[23:03:51] knightr_: wagnerrp, is your name Roger Wilco too?
[23:04:22] wagnerrp: speaking of which, i should have mentioned to the front desk they needed to send a sanitation engineer up to my room and fix the handle on the toilet when i left yesterday
[23:04:40] wagnerrp: thing worked, but wasn't really attached to anything
[23:08:31] bobweaver: wagnerrp, http://pastebin.com/Jq3DXHNk
[23:09:37] bobweaver: maybe I would have to find all the areas that are using th mythui and replace that with qml stuff or just git ride of it. as I only need the logic
[23:09:45] bobweaver: IDK
[23:09:49] bobweaver: <<N()()B
[23:12:01] bobweaver: line 93 in paste is all messed up
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[23:14:21] bobweaver: wagnerrp, thanks anyways. It works as each function becomes a QML Element. and one can also add Q_PROPERTY to these nder there Q_OBJECT
[23:15:06] bobweaver: one can Bind Q_INVOKABLE to the function or there is other ways also that I have yet to master
[23:16:52] jya_: current myth web doesn't work with my iPad, it just waits forever for the page to open. Works fine using a standard web browser
[23:17:11] wagnerrp: works fine on my ios6 phone
[23:17:45] jya_: does it ?
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[23:18:07] wagnerrp: it did last time i tried, although i havent updated it in a few months
[23:18:10] jya_: ohhh, we changed from 1000+ commits on github to 10000+
[23:18:42] jya_: I tried to set a recording , I accessed the listing page fine, but from that point on it just timed out...
[23:19:06] jya_: I thought apache / mythbackend had crashed and restarted it remotely, but in fact it was still working
[23:20:07] wagnerrp: yeah, still working fine
[23:20:20] jya_: ah :(
[23:20:46] bobweaver: mine is also working on my ipad 2 with myth 0.26
[23:21:50] wagnerrp: "Recorded Programs" is taking a long time to load
[23:21:58] wagnerrp: but that's just because the phone is stupid
[23:22:11] wagnerrp: and loading the page through an internet proxy
[23:22:17] wagnerrp: rather than directly off the local web server
[23:22:27] bobweaver: wagnerrp, can you replace screens ? I have a extra n4 with a cracked screen
[23:23:02] wagnerrp: me personally? no, i cannot replace screens
[23:23:14] bobweaver: kah well the offer is on the table
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[23:26:16] bobweaver: it was a shame my GF 0new puppy grabbed the power cord well it was charging and when she did she pulled it off the self it was on cracking the top right of it so only things that are 70 % below the top of the screen work now :( but I bought a white one
[23:27:54] bobweaver: it is this phone https://play.google.com/store/devices/details . . . mo&hl=en
[23:28:14] knightr_: bobweaver, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzbfeY_xTQ
[23:28:39] knightr_: seem pretty costly to replace though...
[23:29:32] bobweaver: knightr_, yeah it is 100 uSD
[23:29:43] bobweaver: I have 4 of them
[23:29:55] bobweaver: and the n7 and n10
[23:30:16] bobweaver: kinda when crazy after working 90 hours a week for 3 weeks
[23:30:22] knightr_: bobweaver, it was more on Amazon but it's less on Fleabay, you're right...
[23:30:59] bobweaver: I think I was looking at newegg or something like that it was 88 usd
[23:33:51] bobweaver: but you are right way way way to $$ to replace maybe in a year or so after the 5 comes out the prices will drop and I wil replace and use as a fronted
[23:34:06] bobweaver: hdmi support pending ..... lol
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[23:36:41] knightr_: bobweaver, I guess it depends on the price of the phone... (I am not quite sure how much it cost, I still have my old Nokia 6300 (ie non-Adroid based) phone... I usually love buying gadgets but that hasn't yet included phones too...)
[23:37:25] bobweaver: :) yeah I also am a sucker for devices that have a lot of ram and cpu power on armel
[23:38:24] bobweaver: knightr_, that was the 1st one that bought I think that I paid like 500 + usd at the store. I would trade it for help with c++ to qml
[23:38:46] bobweaver: IE moving some of the libs over to qml
[23:39:10] bobweaver: because then I can use on all my devices and esp my pi's
[23:39:28] bobweaver: frontend ^^
[23:39:54] jya_: bobweaver: the issue isn't about 0.26 obviously, but master
[23:40:23] bobweaver: jya, yeah I am a moron I dont know much about what you all are talking about
[23:40:43] wagnerrp: he's talking about his mythweb issue on recent master
[23:40:53] bobweaver: I see thanks wagnerrp
[23:42:15] bobweaver: we all have to start somewhere. I mean my 1st time rigging(what I do for work) I was so scared but I had to ask questions. The only difference here is if one makes a mistake they dont die or kill someone else in the process
[23:42:56] bobweaver: << http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigger_(entertainment)
[23:43:26] jya_: peper03: in regards to translation, that's the whole point of using %1. The translator can place it wherever required in the language...
[23:43:52] bobweaver: I am that guy that hangs from the rafters hoking up all the "points" so that bands and what not can hag 3 ton speakers and what not
[23:44:09] bobweaver: end rant sorry
[23:47:18] wagnerrp: hangs? we have to have big, uncomfortable harnesses with arrestor cables
[23:47:53] wagnerrp: and that's just if we get anywhere near a ledge
[23:47:57] wagnerrp: damned OSHA...
[23:48:26] bobweaver: lol
[23:48:50] bobweaver: Yeah Arghh Union might have something to say about that lol
[23:50:45] dblain: Yay!, Mythbackend compiled clean on Qt5.1 and msvc.
[23:51:00] bobweaver: Nice \0/
[23:51:14] bobweaver: that is great news dblain
[23:51:42] dblain: jya_: you'll be glad to know I was able to get it to compile with Visual Studio 2010, 2012 & 2013. So you can use Bounds Checker on it.
[23:51:47] bobweaver: Mine also compiles with gcc mut not the android toolkit
[23:52:10] jya_: dblain: great.. can you make the project available somewhere?
[23:52:24] dblain: bobweaver: this is the full Mythtv source being compiled native on windows.
[23:53:11] dblain: jya_: I want to get the rest of the programs built and make sure it actually runs. Once done, I'll get you a build so you can try it.
[23:53:20] jya_: ok
[23:54:38] dblain: I also need to move these changes to my linux box and make sure I didn't break the build there :/
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