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Friday, July 19th, 2013, 00:08 UTC
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[01:26:37] dblain: While getting libmythtv to compile in msvc, I noticed the following line:
[01:26:39] dblain: AVRational req =
[01:26:39] dblain: (AVRational){result.den, result.num};
[01:26:51] dblain: yet the ACRational struct is defined as:
[01:27:03] dblain: typedef struct AVRational{
[01:27:04] dblain: int num; ///< numerator
[01:27:04] dblain: int den; ///< denominator
[01:27:04] dblain: } AVRational;
[01:27:27] dblain: Isn't the initialization out of order? (sorry for the pasting!)
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[01:29:16] danielk221: dblain: If it has been there a long time it is probably intentional. I'd look at git blame and see what it looked like before the last time it was touched and when it was touched. Sometimes we want 1/result.
[01:30:25] dblain: danielk221: That's fine if it is intentional... I just remeber people discussing duration problems and it's in the GetCodecTimeBase method. (I have no way to know what is correct)
[01:30:49] dblain: Figured it wouldn't hurt to mention here.
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[01:43:22] jya: well, you could be calculated the inverse of it
[01:45:42] jya: dblain: where is that ?
[01:45:50] jya: ah in GetCodecTimeBase
[01:46:50] jya: that 's only used for the HLS encoder (and maybe mythtranscode in general)
[01:47:23] dblain: np, just seemed odd. Definitely could be what was intended.
[01:47:38] jya: looking at the rest, it does seem so
[01:48:06] jya: because right after, it checks if it's 29.97 or 59.94 and there inverse the result
[01:48:28] jya: will have to ask Captain_Murdoch to review it
[01:49:07] dblain: Didn't mean to cause extra work for anyone... I've been looking at so many compile errors, it's hard to see the larger picture. I think it's time to take a break!
[01:49:50] jya: actually, it's good stuff.. you get to review the code ...
[01:49:57] dblain: A lot was added over the last year+.
[01:50:15] jya: and I know the feeling, I spent weeks getting it to work and compile properly on mac
[01:50:18] jya: and still ongoing
[01:50:30] dblain: Unfortunately not really taking the time to understand the code, just make it compile :(
[01:51:32] dblain: Up to 9 libs compiling clean now... only a few more to go and then the programs... and the plugins... :(
[01:52:23] jya: there are some plugins I didn't bother with, relies on python or perl
[01:52:37] dblain: Of course I started this during a freeze... so I'll also need to merge things for the next couple of months before I can check it in.
[01:53:00] jya: unfortunate, it would have been nice to have a windows frontend
[01:53:25] dblain: Needed to install perl & python to compile Qt, so... (I may leave plugins lone until the base is solid and compiling in a build slave)
[01:54:51] dblain: 2 things I learned from taking a hiatus...
[01:54:53] dblain: 1) setting up mythbackend on a clean machine & database is a LOT of work.
[01:55:58] dblain: 2) there really is no seperation between the code for the backend and the frontend. (you need most, not all, dependencies that the frontend requires to build just a backend)
[01:57:18] dblain: Not sure what everyone's feeling is on replacing mythtv-setup, but I definity feel a need for a easy web setup now that I had to go through the "user experiance"
[02:01:48] jya: dblain: i think you'll find general consensus here. it's been talked about for years.
[02:02:54] jya: I'm actually thinking of writing a little wrapper for the mac, that includes all binaries in one application. So you don't have to package each on their own, all with duplicated libs and files
[02:03:36] jya: would use an installer rather than a bundled package, so we can easily add required python and perl components
[02:05:28] danielk221: dblain: We're all pretty much for web based setup, now if it could only magically implement itself we'd be in business.
[02:10:34] dblain: danielk221: I'm working on tool for spontanious code development, but it just creates code for useless stuff! :)
[02:11:52] dblain: If I ever get a working system. I may take up the web setup. Depends on how much I get distracted enhancing the Services API
[02:13:15] tonsofpcs: dblain: room full of monkeys with typewriters?
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[02:50:50] jya: wagnerrp: is there a minimum version requirement for python ?
[02:53:06] jya: I'm trying to sort out the python bindings installation on mac; so to make sure it works on all version of mac os I'd like to specify a version of python existing on all system. so far it's 2.5 (exists in 10.5 to 10.8)
[02:59:31] jya: oh well, I got my answer, configure wants 2.6
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[04:30:35] jya: dblain: I've noticied that the frontend service api list SendAction, has no effect when in the old setup screens
[04:32:39] dblain: jya: I didn't implement many of the existing services... I wrote the framework and ported over the mythxml methods.
[04:32:53] dblain: I forget who added services to the frontend.
[04:32:57] jya: ok… maybe I'll have a look then
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[05:00:58] jya: ok.. done with the wiki for the frontend send notification API (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Service#SendMessage)
[05:01:14] jya: now up to Myth service, and to find that there's no documentation at all :(
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[05:54:11] jya: cool, while looking for the new BBC HLS stream, I found about 20 new channels
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[07:47:33] dekarl: jya, I can give you guide data for DW. We really should look for a way to collect HLS + guide data somehow
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[08:54:17] jya: dekarl: feeding the data isn't complicated really… i've already assigned xmltvid to all channels
[08:54:26] jya: just need to match the data :)
[08:56:02] jya: actually, it seems the xmltv id provided in the playlist is ignored… need to look into it
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[10:28:58] jya_: dekarl: with things like that: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/472cb . . . e3bd55fb335c
[10:29:34] jya_: actually having a err variable make it much easier to debug than directly testing the return value of a function call. at least you can see which value is returned
[10:31:58] jya_: trying to debug those code when time comes, the first thing you do is modify the code with a temporary variable to easily print it… so removing them serves no purpose whatsoever. Just make the code more difficult to maitain
[10:32:47] jya_: personally, now that we are using coverity, I would ditch cppcheck. more often than not the reports are useless and dangerous to follow
[10:39:33] dekarl: jya_, I can change it to be consistent the other way around.
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[10:40:27] stuartm: cppcheck has found genuine bugs that coverity missed so it has it's place, but we should strive to keep it updated and report false positives (they are usually fixed in a couple of days)
[10:40:46] stuartm: we're currently a couple of versions behind the stable release
[10:41:26] k-man: one of my tuners isn't working in mythtv, it fails to lock, but it seems ok if I tune to it using the hdhr_config_gui tool on OSX
[10:42:38] stuartm: FWIW, in light of #11694, just a reminder to everyone that if you change the public API of any library you need to bump the API version or all sorts of unpredictable stuff can happen resulting in bogus bug reports
[10:42:38] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11694 **
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[10:53:29] dekarl: stuarta: any plan on updating to a newer version of cppcheck?
[10:54:17] stuartm: I think that builder is on Beirdo's hardware
[10:54:53] stuarta: no it's not
[10:54:58] stuarta: used to be
[10:55:30] stuartm: ah, ok, cool
[10:56:06] stuartm: we're running 1.58, latest is 1.60.1 – http://cppcheck.sourceforge.net/
[10:56:27] stuartm: "Cppcheck primarily detects the types of bugs that the compilers normally do not detect. The goal is to detect only real errors in the code (i.e. have zero false positives)."
[10:57:04] stuarta: i use the version that's in the distro
[10:57:06] stuarta: iirc
[11:04:30] jya_: stuartm: getting close to release maybe… but otherwise it's a massive pain to update the API every single time… IMHO, when running master, people should be expected to know what they are doing more than others and make sure all libs and plugins are updated
[11:09:45] jya_: oh, the user was you :)
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[13:22:26] jya_: on our web site; we should have a dummy myth web for people to play with it… get a feeling of what it is
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[13:56:09] stuartm: Someone once tried that, lots of dodgy recording rules "I rulez!! Myth sux" etc were created :)
[13:57:02] jya_: ah :(
[13:57:24] jya_: Captain_Murdoch: is there a way to download only a set amount of bytes from a URL ?
[13:57:28] jya_: using MDM
[13:58:09] jya_: someone reported that the HLS recorder doesn't work behind a proxy. I thought that using MDM would have handled that, and then I remembered that I download the first 2kB to check if the file is a HLS playlist
[13:58:20] jya_: I use FFmpeg utility for that
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[15:51:43] lux_3: hi
[15:52:03] lux_3: my mythbackend just crashed with a segmentation fault, should i paste the log somewhere?
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[16:18:55] jpabq: lux_3: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo
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[16:31:22] jya_: jpabq: got any luck with the mac registration?
[16:32:36] jpabq: I asked apple for help. Their web page said they would get back to me in 24 hours. It took them 4 days. They asked for a screenshot. I sent it to them. I wonder how long it will take them to get back to me this time?
[16:33:27] jpabq: jya_: I noticed that a 'notification' that the backend is back up show the X icon. In a situation where the notification is a good thing, shouldn't it show a positive icon?
[16:33:53] jya_: jpabq: give me the icon :)
[16:34:13] jya_: actually, the backup is online is an "update" notification
[16:34:21] jya_: so it only write the text to the current one
[16:34:36] jya_: so if you had dismissed the error, it would show up without icon
[16:35:25] jpabq: jya_: I am still tinkering with HLS. If I pull the plug in the middle of a recording it wedges until I plug the cable back in. Until it gets more data, it does not pay attention to the fact that the recording should end, etc. I thought I would have it worked out by now, but have had same major hardware failures this week.
[16:36:25] jya_: jpabq: i'm fairly certain that fixing the signal monitor vs recorder, so the recorder can reuse the data as currently processed by the signal monitor will significantly speed up channel change
[16:36:29] Captain_Murdoch: dblain, jya_, that inverse is intentional, but mainly because I copied the guts of that function from some sample code I found on the net somewhere if I recall correctly.
[16:36:59] jya_: right now, it can take about 6s for the recorder to kick in after the signal monitor has stopped with a good signal report
[16:36:59] Captain_Murdoch: jya_, no way to specify a # of bytes to download in MDM, just get/post/head support.
[16:37:32] jya_: Captain_Murdoch: probably doesn't matter here, looks like ffmpeg supports proxy too… i just need to track
[16:38:31] jya_: and mythtv-setup and mythavtest failed for #11695, because they didn't set the proxy at all
[16:38:31] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11695 **
[16:40:46] Captain_Murdoch: ok. probably wouldn't hurt to add at some point if we had a use case. might be needed if we ever wanted to switch from sending files over mythproto to using the backend http interface.
[16:45:26] jya_: if you add it, i'll use it right away..
[16:45:45] jya_: BTW, how is the bug about download being deleted in a different thread than where they are created?
[16:46:00] jya_: it's causing a few segfault for me in live TV when using the HLS recorder
[16:46:31] Captain_Murdoch: didn't have a chance to look at it yet. had company for a week and didn't touch the computer for days at a time.
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[16:48:02] Captain_Murdoch: if your patch works, you could go ahead and apply it. the only other idea I was goign to try was to just have the cancel routine set a flag and have the actual cancel occur on the next wakeup inside of run(). I'm fine with your method as well if it works.
[16:49:51] jya_: Captain_Murdoch: that solution is probably better… just I didn't want to spend to much time trying to understand how it was working internally and try to resolve racing connections etc...
[16:50:28] Captain_Murdoch: ok, I'll see if I can get a solution in this weekend. I may have some programing time tonight after the kids got to bed.
[16:52:15] Captain_Murdoch: with the flag, the cancel should occur within the next half second at most since we wakeup at least every 200ms or so when downloading to process events.
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[16:57:11] jya_: all right… off too bed.. been chasing a bug for two hours with windows loosing focus in mythtv-setup and keyboard not working any longer… and now after reverting all my changes. can't reproduce it any longer :(
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[17:51:57] satmandu: Could anybody answer a question for me on how mythfilldatabase pulls logical channels with dashes? (Does it?)
[17:52:10] dblain: Is libmythprotoserver currently used? found a missing ; which is causing the deleteThread to be deleted when running. libmythprotoserver/requesthandler/fileserverhandler.cpp line 162. a missing ';' on the return statement causes the next line "delete deletethread;" to be executed.
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[18:01:20] dekarl1: jya_, a buildbot hinted that this looks fishy http://pastebin.com/P0x76xfR
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[18:08:42] natanojl: dblain: Looks like mythmediaserver is using libmythprotoserver. Bugs like these are the reason our design rules at work says to always use {}
[18:22:08] satmandu: All I've found so far is that libmythtv is supposed to be pulling channels and channel_Minor from dddirect from the lineups section of the xml data, but that any line with a channelMinor field is getting dumped.
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[20:31:48] stuartm: satmandu: do you mean inserting channels into the database, or inserting guide data for channels already in the database? Mythfilldatabase isn't responsible for inserting channels into the database for digital sources (at least that's the case for DVB and I assume ATSC) because the SD data doesn't contain all the necessary information, instead you need to do a channel scan in mythtv-setup
[20:34:36] satmandu: stuartm: So you're telling me that I can't insert a lineup from datadirect at all for digital channels?
[20:35:13] satmandu: because when I did the import, it did insert one channel, but just one.
[20:37:54] stuartm: I'm saying that's my understanding, but I'm not based in the US and I could be completely wrong – it just seems unlikely to me that schedulesdirect (TMS) carry all the information necessary to tune a digital channel (the days when all you needed was a frequency are long gone)
[20:38:52] satmandu: ok thanks, I think I see how it works now.
[20:40:24] stuartm: satmandu: the guys in #mythtv-users can probably be more helpful
[20:41:16] satmandu: stuartm: Thanks again. I thought I was running up against a bug. I'm going to go delete my local mythtv git repo now.  :-)
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