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[08:21:02] | _Dweller: | jpabq: I'll re-add the 120mm fan & continue testing =) |
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[08:28:00] | _Dweller: | danielk22: I need to try myth yet with the device on the pi.. not many people seem to be playing with this one on that platform.. so I can't even rule out pi usb-oddness (of which there are varying reports, but mostly that looks like its getting resolved.. I've tried the fiq branch with no change too) |
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[11:56:53] | sphery: | So, in today's world, should we change the default for XineramaMonitorAspectRatio from 4:3 to 16:9? While the user should set it properly when they use Xinerama, it seems most don't know this, and then they end up doing bad things like changing the AspectOverride (telling MythTV to ignore the video's specified aspect ratio). |
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[12:04:51] | danielk22: | sphery: Yeah, having a 4:3 monitor is definitely not the default these days. |
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[12:06:40] | sphery: | Agreed. I'll change it. Thanks. |
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[13:07:03] | stichnot: | Is there anyone with mheg knowledge who can look at items 81,82,83 from http://code.mythtv.org/coverity/index.html ? It looks like missing "break" statements in a switch statement, but I can't be sure. |
[13:08:46] | taylorr: | stichnot: I faintly remember you mentioning that you were going to look at a race condition that occurs for LiveTV, did you ever look into this or have plans to do so? |
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[13:19:40] | stichnot: | taylorr: I still have plans, but every time I think about diving into the live TV code, a deep sense of despair pushes me away :) |
[13:20:55] | stichnot: | Also, it's much harder for me to work on recorder stuff in my development environment, so I don't get to it often. |
[13:22:48] | taylorr: | heh, I feel the same way :) |
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[13:34:48] | stichnot: | iirc, the race condition involves TVChain updates and the Dummy recorder state. Something like: the recorder starts actually recording after a channel change, and tells the player to delete the Dummy entry in the live TV chain, but there is a race as the player expects the dummy entry to still be there. |
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[17:05:57] | danielk22: | Anyone up for reviewing the MythSystem^NT interface? http://codepad.org/RsGyslGq |
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[17:19:39] | taylorr: | stichnot: that's interesting – did you have issues with LiveTV and if so did you try changing the code not to delete the dummy file? |
[17:24:57] | danielk22: | FYI The reason I'm looking at MythSystem is because I need to be able to suck data out of child processes somehow to support single file logging which was much requested when I asked what devs wanted in myth logging 4.0, the current MythSystem interface would be difficult to adapt. |
[17:29:20] | stichnot: | taylorr: My memory is fuzzy, but when working on #10490, several times I noticed this problem when the frontend was stopped in the debugger while the backend was running free. It wasn't precisely an issue of the dummy file itself, but rather the backend's communication to the frontend of the state change. It seemed plausible to me that this could happen in practice, not just in artificial... |
[17:29:20] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10490 ** | |
[17:29:22] | stichnot: | ...debugger conditions. |
[17:31:16] | stichnot: | The first thing I want to do is to try to add extra logic and logging just to detect this situation, then ask affected users to check for the log messages. |
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[18:05:52] | jpabq: | danielk22: I thought the request for a "single" file had more to do with just wanting the file called "mythbackend.log" instead of "mythbackend.20130525193625.1807.log" so it had a /predictable/ name. Personally, I am okay with sub-processes having their own file, even if "single file" mode is selected. So, mythbackend.log, mythcommflag.log, etc. |
[18:06:13] | jpabq: | That being said, I am sure the work you are doing on MythSystem will be appreciated. |
[18:07:25] | jpabq: | I actually looked at using MythSystem to control an external app, but it didn't work exactly the way I wanted so I am going in a (slightly) different direction. |
[18:12:53] | stichnot: | jpabq: I assumed danielk22 was trying to capture the stdout/stderr of a spawned process and add it to the spawner's log file. |
[18:13:45] | jpabq: | That was my assumption as well. I was just saying that I didn't think that was really necessary — that it was okay for spawned processed to have their own 'single' log file. |
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[18:31:13] | sphery: | if you commingle logging messages from different applications, please make sure to at least put the application name /and/ process identification information in the log file--so that we can tell which mythpreviewgen it is and so users don't report bugs about "master backend dies when it can't connect to itself" (i.e. they see a log message indicating a failure to connect to the master backend in mythbackend.log, but it actually came from ... |
[18:31:20] | sphery: | ... mythpreviewgen after mythbackend had already died) |
[18:32:22] | sphery: | making one per application, rather than one per process, is fine, too, but should have process identification information in it since we often run multiple mythpreviewgens or whatever at once on a host |
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[18:40:27] | danielk22: | sphery: Good point. My plan is to allow both the one per process + co-mingled versions. The one per process is mostly done in the mythlogging branch, but the co-mingled version takes some work because I want it to co-mingle nicely. |
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[19:08:23] | dekarl: | stuartm, the links to cgit in the coverty report appear to have an excess "mythtv/" in them directly after "tree". |
[19:12:15] | stuartm: | dekarl: ah, right the path changed after I added the plugins to the build since I was building one directory higher, I'll fix it momentarily |
[19:12:48] | stuartm: | once I've finished my cup of tea |
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[20:26:08] | stuartm: | dekarl: fixed |
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[20:43:53] | paul-h: | danielk22: one of the MythTimer test is failing here – FAIL! : TestMythTimer::AddMSecsWorks() 't.elapsed() > 25 && t.elapsed() < 30' returned FALSE. () |
[20:44:48] | paul-h: | changing the upper limit to 50 fixed it but it probably could be lower |
[20:46:05] | paul-h: | I got values of between 30 and 34 for t.elapsed() when I put some debugging in |
[20:48:28] | paul-h: | stuartm: MythZoneMinder doesn't need any additional dependencies that I can think of if you just want to compile it |
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[20:53:40] | stuartm: | paul-h: just checked, it wanted a mysql header which isn't needed by anything else, but that isn't so bad, I had formed the impression that it wanted zoneminder headers/binaries |
[20:54:18] | stuartm: | Disabling MythZoneMinder. Requires mysql/mysql.h header |
[20:55:01] | paul-h: | yes I forgot about that it's for mythzmserver |
[20:56:05] | stuartm: | plugins were pretty clean except for mythmusic, but that's not really surprising because it's the biggest plugin by far |
[20:58:33] | stuartm: | paul-h: I'll add mythzoneminder to the next coverity run |
[21:01:53] | paul-h: | OK, thanks |
[21:02:35] | paul-h: | Could do without the distraction really :) |
[21:02:40] | stuartm: | heh |
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[21:32:15] | neufeld: | Is gigem about? Bug 11108 finally came back, with the extra logging turned on. |
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[21:40:21] | danielk22: | paul-h: Since you got values significantly less than 50 ms addMSecs() likely worked. I'll lower the tightness of the bounds there. For my curiosity, what platform is this? |
[21:41:43] | paul-h: | gentoo |
[21:42:14] | danielk22: | do you know what your timeslice is in the kernel? |
[21:42:44] | paul-h: | Not a clue, where would I find it |
[21:45:07] | danielk22: | If you didn't set it it is likely 10 ms. |
[21:45:39] | danielk22: | It is one of the options when you configure a kernel. |
[21:47:59] | neufeld: | gigem: reopened #11108. The backend is still in that state, let me know if there's any poking about you want me to do before I restart it. |
[21:47:59] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11108 ** | |
[21:48:32] | danielk22: | If this happened repeatedly I really doubt that is the issue. And with Gentoo I know it is a fairly recent kernel. But if slightly inaccurate timing comes up again I'll have a data point. |
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[22:08:01] | stuartm: | neufeld: my response to the re-opened ticket was automatic, but none the less I have to ask whether you've tried a more recent release? |
[22:23:12] | gigem: | neufeld: Thanks. That log helps. In short, the problem is caused by your longish, maximum (and padded) scheduler run time (16) being too close to your pre-roll time (15). I don't know what the best fix is yet or when I'll get to it, so all I can offer is a work around for now. Increasing your pre-roll to 20 seconds should solve if for this case, although, 25 or 30 seconds would be safer. |
[22:23:50] | gigem: | stuartm: In this case, that code hasn't changed, so the report is still valuable. It doesn't mean I'll apply any fixes to 0.25 or even 0.26, though. |
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[22:50:26] | neufeld: | stuartm: OK, thanks. I haven't upgraded the backend, I don't modify that box casually. |
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[22:52:33] | neufeld: | gigem: OK, I'll set the pre-roll to 25 seconds. Any idea why it runs OK for months, and then suddenly finds itself in the state where it stops working altogether? Hmm, maybe a memory pressure thing. That backend slowly grows in RSS. It's at 13 GB VSZ and 9.7 GB RSS. I'll change the pre-roll and restart the backend. Thank you. |
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[23:34:04] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: It appears that the test harness (for test_mythsystem) presumes you have installed myth libraries. |
[23:34:45] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: I get "././libmythbase/test/test_mythtimer/test_mythtimer: error while loading shared libraries: libmythzmq.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" on a system which I do compilations (but do not have mythtv installed). |
[23:35:13] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: I have done no further research, so I might be wrong (or my compile system is broken in some way). |
[23:42:43] | danielk22: | gary_buhrmaster: It should be using the not yet installed libraries.. I think the problem here is that I did not link with libmythzmq.so.1 since did most of the development in the devel/logging branch which doesn't have libmythzmq.so.1 |
[23:44:01] | danielk22: | Or rather I need to add libmythzmq.so.1 relative path to the .pro file on master. |
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