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Wednesday, May 29th, 2013, 00:02 UTC
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[03:00:12] wagnerrp: how do i call a parent class constructor after initializing local variables?
[03:01:27] wagnerrp: actually... when i call a parent class's constructor, and that constructor calls a virtual function i've overridden
[03:01:36] wagnerrp: does it actually call the local function, or does it call its own function?
[03:02:13] wagnerrp: i'm guessing the latter
[03:06:33] wagnerrp: gary_buhrmaster: why would #11565 be under DVB rather than HDHR?
[03:06:33] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11565 **
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[03:24:49] wagnerrp: dekarl: i'm redoing the housekeeper, and looking at this chunk of code... http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . per.cpp#n248
[03:25:34] wagnerrp: is there any cleaner way to detect whether or not we can support a suggested run time besides a hard coded list of grabbers?
[03:27:07] wagnerrp: at least in the code, the database value it is stored to is only ever written by the schedules direct code
[03:27:22] wagnerrp: so i can only assume this 'technovera' grabber is manually setting it in our database when it runs
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[03:29:46] ** wagnerrp points gary_buhrmaster at logs **
[03:32:37] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: (sorry, got disconnected). Only because the component of MythTV-HDHomeRun assigns the ticket to silicondust, and (it seems to me, I could be thinking wrongly) that this is really a DVB recorder issue (i.e. likely danielk).
[03:32:57] wagnerrp: ah, better to just manually assign then
[03:33:25] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Only you powerful people can do that :-) I am just a PITA submitting tickets.
[03:33:37] wagnerrp: danielk22: ^^^ re #11565
[03:33:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11565 **
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[04:01:27] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Thanks for (re)assigning the ticket.
[04:04:24] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: This: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . kport.2.diff suggests that the technovera grabber is no longer supported
[04:05:45] wagnerrp: as in it was semi-hard-coded, and removed when myth moved to generic xmltv support?
[04:06:44] wagnerrp: looks like no one is using the 'datadirect' grabber either
[04:06:50] wagnerrp: (according to smolt)
[04:06:56] wagnerrp: i'm wondering if that was the old zap2it name
[04:08:24] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: datadirect was the old zap2it name (that part I remember).
[04:08:59] wagnerrp: i was only a lowly user back then, and wasn't digging into the internals yet
[04:11:43] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: I know next to nothing about technovera, except that some (old) online docs suggest that they too were moving to a tribune based service to support their customers (under the heading lxmsuite). At some point they ended their services according to the web...
[04:14:17] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: It (technovera) was, as I understand it, sort of a SchedulesDirect before there was a SchedulesDirect (and started before zap2it was cancelled, so it probably was a hard sell; why pay $$$ when zap2it was "free").
[04:15:14] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Hey, I resemble that (lowly user) remark! :-)
[04:15:38] wagnerrp: no, you're a contributing user
[04:15:41] wagnerrp: big difference
[04:18:10] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Maybe there is a difference. I just contribute when I have an itch (or free time). Neither happens consistently.
[04:19:23] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: In any even (regarding techovera), since stuartm made the commit with the warning, he probably has the memory of the history.
[04:19:54] wagnerrp: to be honest, i wasn't really that interested in technovera
[04:20:08] wagnerrp: more just as to whether xmltv had any official mechanism for recommending a next run time
[04:20:24] wagnerrp: a brief look through their docs seems to indicate there is no such concept
[04:22:45] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Agreed. There are only two types of official records, channels and programs.
[04:23:41] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: I suppose if you wanted to invest the effort, you could suggest (to upstream) an updated record type for suggested next run time.
[04:24:48] wagnerrp: well dekarl is upstream...
[04:27:42] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Actually, looking at it, you could add it to the 'tv' root element. Something like 'source-info-refresh' I suppose.
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[05:59:08] dekarl: wagnerrp: I see no SuggestedRunTime at http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XmltvCapabilities
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[09:14:50] stuartm: lxm was a failed attempt to create a business around selling guide data and other additional content (themes, etc) for use with MythTV
[09:29:59] stuartm: fwiw, I wasn't the one to add the 'not supported' warning
[09:32:37] stuartm: I edited it in that proposed patch, but it was actually removed in the final version
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[09:59:19] _Dweller: danielk22: swapped to using stereo rca on my hd pvr, still get glitches every hour or so.. any tips on how to handle the device learnt from mythtv ? I've tried enabling debug for the hdpvr kernel module, but there's just no info as to 'why' it glitches.. it just stops sending data & my poll times out.. I did at least improve things a little by borrowing the sleep/poll time values from the DeviceReadBuffer.cpp =)
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[11:02:52] dekarl: stuartm, shouldn't that have been *char[8] x = {NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL}; ?
[11:03:42] wagnerrp: since any function is going to end on the first NULL byte it hits, you only need to initialize that first one
[11:04:47] dekarl: maybe even leave out the 8 and make it *char[]
[11:04:55] dekarl: just wondering how its supposed to work
[11:05:22] wagnerrp: if you leave out the 8, the array is sized to the initializing value
[11:05:46] stuartm: dekarl: no, = {NULL} (= {0}) etc will initialise all members, it's magic :)
[11:07:43] stuartm: dekarl: 0 (NULL) is treated as a special value in that instance
[11:10:03] stuartm: it's more common to see "= {0}" but since NULL is 0, and our coding standards prefer NULL ...
[11:11:34] stuartm: e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15715968/i . . . e-same-value
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[11:30:53] stuartm: recently frontend has started spawning multiple copies of mythlogserver and then it locks up :(
[11:31:39] stuartm: http://pastebin.com/bkQG93st
[11:32:27] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Technically not "magic". A static variable is init'd to zero, and (due to a stanza in the C spec) an array with a = {0} is treated as a static (zero init'd). I can never find the reference in the language spec when I look for it.
[11:32:55] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: In any case, now that one is checking for filling in the array, the initialization is mostly for the sake of static analysis (and keeping it happy is a goodness too).
[11:33:07] stuartm: gary_buhrmaster: indeed
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[12:17:34] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: I take it you have added converting to QString to your (likely infinite) TODO cleanup list?
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[12:34:35] stuartm: yeah, decided that for now it's not a good use of my time, we're approaching a feature freeze and there are other things I want to look at first
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[13:46:54] taylorr: _Dweller: sounds like you may have a power supply issue on the hdpvr – google might help you find an appropriate replacement to try (d-link makes some)
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[13:56:01] _Dweller: taylorr: I thought that too.. have tried 3 diff 5v 2a psu's so far.. no real difference between them.
[13:56:38] _Dweller: also taken the top off the unit & mounted a 120mm fan as a test too.. didn't help either..
[13:57:25] _Dweller: Next step I plan to borrow the entire devicereadbuffer (and deps) from myth, and try running that to handle the device, and see if it makes any difference
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[14:55:50] jpabq: _Dweller: could also be your STB. The HD-PVR does not handle glitches from the STB itself well at all, and just stops 'encoding' when it sees one.
[14:57:11] jpabq: For example, if your STB changes from HD to SD for a commercial, the HD-PVR will stop encoding. Or if it changes from DD5.1 to DD2.0 for a commercial...
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[15:38:01] _Dweller: jpabq: stb is ok, it's locked to stay at 1080i .. hd pvr is being fed stereo rca, so dd5.1/dd2.0 doesnt apply. stb is also feeding a hauppauge colossus via a HDbaseT distribution, and colossus doesn't see the glitches..
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[17:10:15] danielk22: _Dweller: jpabq (John Poet) actually knows the HD-PVR better than me. But can I assume the device works 100% under MythTV ? The HD-PVRs are a bit notorious for overheating.
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[17:13:31] danielk22: wagnerrp: In C++ the super constructors are called before any instance variables are initialized and before you even enter the constructor code block. You can choose which super constructor is called by listing it explicitly after the colon and before th code block in the child class constructor.
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[18:07:01] jpabq: _Dweller: Ah, Daniel has a point. If you only get a glitch after an hour, and it is not your STB causing it, then it could be an over-heating problem. Recent HD-PVRs are more resilient, but older ones definitely had that problem.
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[20:02:03] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: btw, regarding the util-nvctrl.cpp patch, there is an index [8] in the code, indicating you want 9 tokens (and i=10).
[20:02:03] MythLogBot: SVN 8: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/589164c8
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[20:08:00] stuartm: gary_buhrmaster: ah crap, thinko
[20:08:28] stuartm: although the check on i is correct, it should be buf[9] not buf[8] and the comment is incorrect
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[20:10:42] stuartm: it's ironic really, as I had been explaining fence post errors to someone earlier today :(
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[20:31:40] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: You can use this as a training example of how even the best get it wrong occasionally. :-)
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[22:01:55] stuartm: anyone know to the nearest million how many lines of code MythTV has? Ohloh and Coverity differ by ~30 million, the Coverity figure seems way too high but it's consistent between submissions
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[22:32:58] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: You could do a 'git ls-files libs programs bindings (and so on, I exclude external) | xargs wc -l' to get an estimate.
[22:34:32] stichnot: gotta love this: 1. check_return: Calling function "MSqlQuery::exec()" without checking return value (as is done elsewhere 964 out of 977 times).
[22:35:59] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: You have to be careful of that (git ls-files) approach with the themes (in particular) with the non-source code files such as png, ttf, etc.
[22:38:20] gary_buhrmaster: stitchnot: Yeah, I was (slowly) going to submit a ticket for each, but if you (or someone else) just wants to deal with it, that would be faster for all.
[22:48:14] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Found (online) another way: 'git diff --stat `git hash-object -t tree /dev/null`' (compares master against an empty tree) which suggest 3.4 million lines of code.
[22:48:58] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Do any of those numbers agree with the number you want it to be?
[22:50:41] stuartm: Coverity reckons 32m, Ohloh 2.2m
[22:51:20] stuartm: clearly Coverity is way out, Ohloh is probably ignoring those files which don't contain source code (themes etc)
[22:55:40] stichnot: Coverity wants to charge per LOC? Hmm.
[22:56:35] stuartm: heh, you wouldn't really want to rely on their estimate would you?
[22:56:49] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Well, since in engineering math, the numbers are 1, 2, 5, and 10, your answer to the nearest million appears to be 2.
[22:57:07] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: I would if I was the Coverity sales rep.
[22:57:49] stuartm: doesn't matter too much to us, but the Coverity figure just seemed way too high and now I know that it is :)
[23:00:29] sphery: speaking of which, we seem to have lost our Ohloh widget on http://code.mythtv.org/trac/
[23:11:20] stuartm: yeah, it requires a trac plugin to work properly and that was lost when trac was last upgraded
[23:11:51] stuartm: I'll re-install it at the weekend if I don't forget
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