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| [00:03:28] | sphery: | stichnot: ah, yeah, that makes sense |
| [00:03:59] | stichnot: | stuartm: I think this could be done by subclassing MythDialogBox with a short keyPressEvent() method, but it seems kind of heavy-handed |
| [00:15:14] | stichnot: | sphery: are you saying that my proposal for prepending ~/.mythtv/ to the menu search path makes sense? |
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| [00:36:16] | sphery: | stichnot: yes |
| [01:21:51] | jya: | danielk22: any chance for you to update the documentation so I can work on the HLS recorder this week-end ? |
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| [02:33:05] | danielk221: | jya: I can spend some time on it tomorrow night. |
| [02:33:24] | jya: | that would be nice thank you.. I'd like to get this wrapped up asap |
| [02:34:00] | danielk221: | jya: Do you already understand MPEGStreamData or StreamHandler ? |
| [02:34:18] | jya: | not really no |
| [02:34:36] | jya: | ideally, I'd just like an example to go bye and plug my bits in |
| [02:35:21] | danielk221: | jya: Ideally we'd just have script that generated an empty recorder after asking a few questions.. :) |
| [02:36:05] | jya: | sounds like a good idea.. when will it be completed? :) |
| [02:36:09] | danielk221: | I'll have about 2 hours, so I'll try my best to explain MPEGStreamData + StreamHandler + how the IPTV Recorder differs. |
| [02:36:11] | danielk221: | Hah! |
| [02:39:21] | danielk221: | BTW Once you've read it I can spend some time with you this weekend to actually do it. Writing the docs has taken a lot longer than it would have taken me to just create the recorder.. But I'd rather spread the knowledge than do it myself. :) |
| [03:05:40] | jya: | i will probably amend your docs with what I discover as I go along... |
| [03:06:39] | jya: | hum… the earlier "fix" about a/v sync has broken AirTunes playback…. For some reasons, the raop server thinks that we are too far behind from the reference time and is dropping audio packets to catch up |
| [03:06:53] | jya: | you can never fix something on this damn project without breaking something else :( |
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| [04:37:00] | knightr: | stichnot, I'll look at it in more detail this week-end but I spotted some slight translation issues. I believe at least one of them is old code that was moved around...There's a place where a translatied string is built by concatenating many strings togehter (trac shows it at around lne # 11476). I also saw few places where a string that's displayed is concatenated using QString().arg().arg() etc but the translators can't change the order in w |
| [04:37:00] | knightr: | hich the strings are concatenated (they don't have access to the "format" string.) |
| [04:41:03] | knightr: | I would suggest wrapping these format strings with tr(), providing a (different) disambiguation string to make sure there are no conflicts between these format strings and using "translator" comments (//:, /*:) to explain what the %number are replaced with. |
| [04:45:36] | knightr: | I'll let you know if I find anything else once Il check it more this week-end... |
| [04:51:12] | knightr: | If you are refering to what I told you about themers sometimes reinventing the wheel :-) for some of the strings they use in their themes I had started to write (I never finished it though) a mail to sphery about this since he had mentioned in the past that he was interested to standardize things such as capitalization and the like in the application. I wanted to explain the problem we currently have and ask what he thought about making it a c |
| [04:51:12] | knightr: | oncerted effort between us and the themers to establish some rules in that regard. |
| [04:52:34] | knightr: | I every themer followed these rules there would most likely not be as many strings who differ by slight punctuation differences, case, etc... |
| [04:52:48] | knightr: | s/I/If |
| [04:54:28] | knightr: | I'll complete that email and send it to you both (or maybe to -developers but I would prefer to have some input on this by a few people before asking everybody...) |
| [04:54:34] | knightr: | ttyl |
| [05:23:51] | stichnot: | knightr: I don't see anything suspicious in the neighborhood of https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . y.cpp#L11476 . FWIW, those all-uppercase strings are internal tags that shouldn't be translated. |
| [05:25:23] | knightr: | stichnot, it's not there... I looked at the patch on the ticket, was I supposed to look elsewhere or is trac playing trick on me? |
| [05:26:00] | knightr: | PS: I know there are not supposed to be translated... :-) |
| [05:26:19] | knightr: | name = tr("C", "Card") + ":" + QString::number(*it) + " " + |
| [05:26:19] | knightr: | tr("I", "Input") + ":" + inputs[i].name; |
| [05:26:22] | knightr: | 11812... |
| [05:27:36] | knightr: | I was looking at the diff, not the whole file so that's where the line number discrepancy comes from... |
| [05:29:58] | knightr: | s/there/these |
| [05:33:20] | knightr: | The log entries can be concatenated though since these are always in English (they are never translated...) |
| [05:33:39] | stichnot: | OK, that makes more sense. I just copied the code and tried to keep the behavior the same. Give me a better string and I can add it to the patch. |
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| [05:37:33] | knightr: | probably something like tr("C:%1 I:%2", "Card and Input etc...").arg(QString::number(*it)).arg(inputs[i].name); |
| [05:38:14] | knightr: | and I would add a translator comment on the preceding line that would say something like |
| [05:38:48] | knightr: | /: %1 is the card (used?), %2 is the input (used?) |
| [05:38:54] | knightr: | oops |
| [05:38:59] | knightr: | that's |
| [05:39:07] | knightr: | /: %1 is the card (used?), %2 is the input (used?) |
| [05:39:51] | knightr: | drats, there supposed to be two slashes but IRC removes one... |
| [05:39:59] | knightr: | there's supposed to be... |
| [05:41:02] | knightr: | "Card and Input etc..." would be a disambiguation string |
| [05:41:15] | stichnot: | ok, that sounds good. Do you need both the disambiguation string and the translator comment? |
| [05:41:42] | knightr: | The translators will see both the disambiguation string and the translators comment as comments in the tool they used... |
| [05:42:02] | knightr: | that depends on whether you believe there is a risk of collision in the same context or not... |
| [05:42:42] | knightr: | since it's more than just "%1 : %2" there's less chance of a collision so you could do without it... |
| [05:43:16] | knightr: | but for something that only has %numbers and punctuation I would use it... |
| [05:46:50] | knightr: | but if you remove it I would say what it is in the translator comment otherwise the translators won't know what they are translating... |
| [05:47:44] | knightr: | (I don't believe many translators look at the source code to help them translate even though the editor they use does show where the string is in the source code... |
| [05:47:46] | knightr: | ) |
| [05:51:13] | knightr: | (and actually show the source code too if it's there...) |
| [05:52:13] | knightr: | ttyl, it's almost 2 am here and I work tomorrow... Good night! |
| [05:52:42] | stichnot: | ok ttyl |
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| [08:10:10] | stuarta: | sphery: yeah, i have no problem with changing the default eit owner to dekarl. i don't have a lot of time to work on myth code these days, infrastructure yes, code no |
| [08:31:36] | stuarta: | jya_: are you finished with the ffmpeg builders? |
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| [08:49:35] | jya_: | stuarta: well, I could update to ffmpeg 1.2 .. but I'm not sure how that fits with the current release schedule |
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| [08:52:23] | stuarta: | jya_: i was just thinking of repointing them to devel/logging for a while |
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| [09:07:37] | jya_: | ok… I'll ask on the mailing list about doing on last resync |
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| [09:12:26] | stuarta: | oh, if you want to keep it, i'm happy to keep it |
| [09:12:33] | stuarta: | i'll just add devel/logging |
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| [11:52:02] | knightr: | stichnot, I just realized I read your question a little too fast (it was 1:41 in the morning... (-;), yes I would put both or at least put a translator comment that explains both. The disambiguation string makes the string unique in order to avoid collision with an identical string used for something else which might not be translated in the same way and also give some information on what the string is (like a translator comment) and the transl |
| [11:52:02] | knightr: | ator comment tells the translator what the placeholders (%numbers) are... |
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| [15:41:09] | stichnot: | stuartm: regarding my question about MythDialogBox::keyPressEvent(). Ultimately I think it would be nice if MythUIType or MythScreenType could be configured with a set of actions that would be treated as ESCAPE or MENU. That may be something sphery is thinking about in the context of keybinding overhaul. |
| [15:42:29] | stichnot: | In any case, it's such a minor user experience issue that it doesn't really make sense to "fix" at this point. |
| [15:52:02] | sphery: | stichnot: is it possible to just put your dismissal with menucompact in where menu already is--and just let it dismiss a dialog even if it's not a menu or compact menu? |
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| [15:56:35] | stichnot: | sphery: I'm not sure what you're suggesting. One hack is to modify MythDialogBox::keyPressEvent() to change 'else if (action == "MENU")' to 'else if (action == "MENU" || action == "MENUCOMPACT")', are you suggesting something like that? |
| [15:56:51] | stichnot: | (oops, bus arriving, back in a few minutes...) |
| [15:57:22] | sphery: | yeah, was thinking something like that |
| [15:57:32] | sphery: | (for now, at least) |
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| [16:08:52] | sphery: | stichnot: btw, do you want to remain as "inactive" on http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WhosWho |
| [16:09:01] | stichnot: | sphery: I was briefly thinking of action.startsWith("MENU") but there are some inappropriate matches in tv_actions.h for Interactive TV |
| [16:09:28] | stichnot: | sphery: yes, my benevolent overlords require it :) |
| [16:10:06] | sphery: | ok... I had a feeling. Gary B on -users mentioned it, and I wanted to verify before just changing it. |
| [16:10:19] | sphery: | I did move paulh back to active |
| [16:10:24] | stichnot: | cool |
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| [16:10:53] | sphery: | er, he mentioned it in a private reply to my -users post |
| [16:11:37] | stichnot: | sphery: on further thought, it may not be so bad if MENURED etc. had an inadvertent side effect of closing an already-open menu, what do you think? |
| [16:19:51] | stichnot: | Speaking of startsWith(). We have about 200 instances of the pattern similar to this — if (message.left(13) == "MUSIC_CONTROL") — which seems overly fragile. Any reason not to change to — if (message.startsWith("MUSIC_CONTROL")) — and drop the magic constants? |
| [16:22:01] | danielk22: | stichnot: that would be wonderful :) |
| [16:22:40] | sphery: | hmmm, I'm not sure why we'd have used left()... maybe the startsWith() didn't exist in some ancient version of Qt? |
| [16:23:39] | sphery: | stichnot: as for startsWith("MENU"), I'll leave that up to you. The || is used in several other places, so if you want it limited to just MENU and MENUCOMPACT, that's fine, too. |
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| [21:26:55] | stuartm: | sphery, stichnot: I wouldn't use startsWith for the MENU stuff, since it assumes that no-one will ever add another MENU* action where that behaviour would be undesirable |
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| [21:55:24] | stichnot: | stuartm: Even if you were OK with "MENU" as a prefix, it turns out the simple change to mythdialog.cpp isn't sufficient, unless the MENUCOMPACT keybinding were in the Global context. |
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