| Wednesday, May 8th, 2013, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:28] | knightr: | (in case you haven't guess what I am afraid of is augmenting significantly the number of strings translators must translate...) |
| [00:05:55] | knightr: | stichnot, how do they specify what file to use, is it always the same file name or is it specified someplace else? |
| [00:06:38] | stichnot: | In the current implementation I'm working on, it's menu_playback.xml in the theme search directory path. |
| [00:07:09] | stichnot: | How many different themes do you choose to translate? |
| [00:08:20] | knightr: | 9 and two of these are Steppes... |
| [00:08:32] | knightr: | two are MythCenter... |
| [00:08:33] | knightr: | Arclight Childish Graphite Mythbuntu MythCenter MythCenter-wide Steppes Steppes-narrow Terra |
| [00:10:47] | knightr: | Adding some themes can add many hundreds if not close to a thousand strings and a lot of them only differ by capitalizations, spacing differences, etc... |
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| [00:11:04] | stichnot: | Yeah, I don't want to impose that... |
| [00:11:49] | knightr: | stichnot, but if they don't implement it we do provide a fallback right? |
| [00:12:02] | stichnot: | sphery: have you had any thoughts on menu themes and translations? |
| [00:12:38] | stichnot: | knightr: my bus is about to arrive, I'll have to respond later |
| [00:12:51] | knightr: | (so it will only add new strings if they do decide to implement a different OSD, right?) |
| [00:13:14] | knightr: | (I mean after the one in the default OSD, right? |
| [00:13:19] | knightr: | OK... |
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| [00:34:44] | danielk221: | jya: It might not even be a threading issue. From my reading: MythAirplayServer::newConnection() connects the readyRead() signal to read(), read() calls HandleResponse(), HandleResponse() calls DisconnectAllClients() which deletes the socket sending the readyRead() signal. |
| [00:35:15] | danielk221: | When we unwind the stack we end up back in the code calling readyRead(), but that instance has been deleted from under itself. |
| [00:36:02] | jya_: | danielk22: that's what I thought too.. that thread wise we were okay… But I've had several crashes at the socket->disconnect() in the DisconnectAll() function |
| [00:36:47] | jya_: | as we're all in the same thread… there shouldn't be a socket being processed while a new message is received.. it all occurs one after the other no ? |
| [00:37:04] | danielk221: | The disconnect should be safe, if we change the "delete connection;" to "connection->deleteLater();" |
| [00:37:20] | jya_: | oh… sorry misread you… no the disconnect all will delete all sockets but the current caller of course |
| [00:37:40] | jya_: | it's the disconnect that crash, not the delete |
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| [00:37:46] | danielk221: | oh, let me look at that again. |
| [00:39:08] | jya_: | disconnectAllClients takes a parameter, which is the new session… A session is made of two sockets ; neither of those two will be disconnected |
| [00:39:42] | danielk221: | That should be safe if all the sockets are being handled by the same thread. |
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| [00:40:09] | jya_: | i wonder why the crash though… the crash is within the system. I have no usable backtrace there. |
| [00:40:39] | jya_: | I've found that it occurs often when you play / stop / play another video. like start playback from different content. |
| [00:40:49] | jya_: | I had it occurring on Linux too. |
| [00:40:58] | jya_: | like you start playback on the iPhone, and mythfrontend crash |
| [00:41:27] | jya_: | though to be honest, I'm not sure the crash occurs in the disconnect. On that fronted I have no dev environment, I just see the program crashing. |
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| [00:45:13] | jya_: | danielk22: so just to confirm… that current handling of deleting the socket, we are all in the same thread, and this should normally be okay? and I should look somewhere else for the bug |
| [00:45:20] | danielk221: | jya_: The call to gMythAirplayServer->Teardown(); in Cleanup() is unsafe, that should be done after the gMythAirplayServerThread->wait(); |
| [00:45:30] | danielk221: | this isn't happening on shutdown is it? |
| [00:45:35] | jya_: | no. |
| [00:45:44] | jya_: | it's during playback |
| [00:47:47] | danielk221: | It looks like all the socket handling is being done in the gMythAirplayServerThread. Since we're not deleting ourselves and we're using deleteLater we should be safe. |
| [00:48:24] | danielk221: | (Except for that Teardown call happening in the UI thread, but that would only occur on shutdown.) |
| [00:51:00] | jya_: | yes.. There's a bug for that: that mythfrontend shutdown hang on the delete bonjour |
| [00:51:57] | danielk221: | Maybe there are some callbacks from other threads that touch the sockets? |
| [00:54:17] | danielk221: | None that I can see. |
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| [01:37:59] | KungFuJesus: | Hello, is AVFormatWriter::OpenAudio where the codecs are being written to a container? |
| [02:07:52] | knightr: | stichnot, let me think about it, I'll see what we can do. I didn't know what exactly you wanted to do so I didn't have enough time to think about it. |
| [02:08:12] | knightr: | If the themer doesn't implement it, there is a fallback, right? |
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| [02:38:43] | stichnot: | knightr: Yes. There would be a default fallback version installed in .../mythtv/themes/default/menu_playback.xml. This is similar to how osd_subtitle.xml works (though that file doesn't require any translations). |
| [02:40:16] | stichnot: | I would be inclined to say that if a themer wants to customize a menu, they should reuse the menu titles in the default version, or somehow provide the translations for any new strings. |
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| [13:25:54] | stuarta: | danielk22: do you need devel/logging putting in the build network? |
| [13:35:10] | knightr: | stichnot, would a "disambiguation string" be enough to differentiate these strings from the rest? When provided a disambiguation string is added to the lookup key. Your strings would still be under the "ThemeUI" context but with a "disambiguation string" of "TV" (or maybe "OSD" since this is part of the "OSD"?) . There would be no chance of conflict with the other strings and the translator see the "disambiguation string" as a comment so they w |
| [13:35:11] | knightr: | ould know it's OSD related. |
| [13:36:43] | knightr: | This would also be far more in line with what I had in mind for per-theme translation. |
| [13:37:24] | knightr: | Tying the theme translation to the theme would have the following benefits: |
| [13:37:45] | knightr: | - The translators would chose which theme they decide to translate, not the ones we impose them. |
| [13:39:33] | knightr: | - Since theme translation would be evenually provided with the theme the update of those translation would no longer be done with a release of MyhTV but with an update of the theme. |
| [13:41:42] | knightr: | Oops, looks like I forgot why this would be more in line with what I had in mind for per-theme translation... |
| [13:42:25] | knightr: | What I would like to add that could benefit per-theme translation is a disambiguation string that would, more or less, the name of the plugin (or pseudo-plugin for what has been merge (MythVideo...)) |
| [13:43:48] | knightr: | We already have conflicts between plugins because all the strings end up under ThemeUI so it's not possible to translate differently the same word/string depending on where it is used. |
| [13:44:46] | knightr: | Adding a "disambiguation string" in those case would fix that problem and we could have a "disambiguation string" specific to the OSD stuff. What do you think? |
| [13:47:24] | knightr: | s/case/cases |
| [13:48:21] | knightr: | ttyl, I have to get back to work... |
| [13:57:03] | danielk22: | stuarta: I don't need it yet, but it would be useful. |
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| [14:11:16] | stichnot: | knightr: For now, I added a function to the TV class that enumerates the 35 menu strings in that file for translation. This will mean nothing new for the translation infrastructure until we get a better sense for how this will be used/extended. |
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| [18:14:59] | sphery: | peper03 (I hope you check logs since you're not here): Regarding your comment about libdvdnav upstream seeming to be dead, you should talk with Erik Hovland ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . ;list=mythtv ). He's one of the devs on libdvdnav, seems to be still rather active (based on //www.mail-archive.com/dvdnav-discuss@mplayerhq.hu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/dvdnav-discuss@mplayerhq.hu/ ), and he uses MythTV and has been very supportive of fixing issues we found. |
| [18:17:06] | sphery: | peper03: Then again, it's quite possible they'd be happy to make you a committer on libdvdnav, too (a la //www.mail-archive.com/dvdnav-discuss@mplayerhq.hu/msg01725.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/dvdnav-discuss@mp . . . sg01725.html ) |
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