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Tuesday, April 9th, 2013, 00:39 UTC
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[02:04:46] danielk22: jya_: I started working on it http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IPTVRecorder But so far I doubt it has any info you don't know.
[02:05:24] jya_: ok
[02:06:31] danielk22: I think the main thing that's probably confusing is that the IPTVStreamHandler is tied to the 'channel' or IPTVTuningData. In other recorders it is tied to a device like /dev/video0.
[02:08:34] danielk22: This is because you don't want to have multiple recorders trying to record the same data from the same URL with RTP/UDP streams, the actual eth0, eth1, etc used is decided outside of MythTV by the network config.
[02:09:25] jya_: well, could make the same assumption in regrds to URL
[02:09:31] jya_: with the hls recorder
[02:10:35] danielk22: ok, that was a question I had for you. If you weren't making the same assumption the IPTVRecorder is a bit of a Red-Herring as that is really the only attribute it might share with the HLS recorder.
[02:11:24] jya_: there was no such issue before
[02:11:45] jya_: because the hls recorder was like all the other IPTV recorder: could only have one
[02:11:59] jya_: or you had to manually set more than one "Freebox" card capture
[02:12:34] jya_: there's nothing technically preventing to try to record the HLS url more than once
[02:14:18] danielk22: With the new IPTV recorder there is no such limitation. You can have as many recorders as you'd like. But you might still have limits external to MythTV. Such as network bandwidth or simultaneous record count limitations imposed by the source (2 with Freebox).
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[02:14:56] danielk22: jya_: HLS actually has two types of streams, right? Live and Pre-recorded.
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[02:15:40] danielk22: The Live ones I assume are very much like most RTP streams.
[02:16:47] danielk22: RTP Can also start streams on tune, but this is uncommon in practice as it means you must do 1-to-1 and not 1-to-many.
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[02:22:40] jya_: danielk22: as far as the client is concerned, live or pre-recorded is irrelevant
[02:22:56] jya_: it's just in one the reader won't allow seek
[02:23:04] jya_: but they are fundamentally the same
[02:24:26] jya_: They could have been treated differently: the live stream needs to reload at regular interval the list of segments. But i treat live and pre-recorded in the exacte same fashion so I could play the HLS stream generated by myth
[02:25:08] jya_: the myth HLS stream creator advertise its list of segment as a pre-recorded one, but it is updated whenever a segment has finished being encoded
[02:26:06] jya_: so now, pre-recorded (which really just mean that the list of segments is fixed) or live: there's a secondary thread that reload the segment list at regular interval (currently it reloads every *(average_length_of_segment)/2"
[02:26:14] danielk22: How are seeks handled with pre-recorded material in a MythTV recorder?
[02:26:38] jya_: there isn't
[02:26:55] jya_: but remember that the HLS recorder uses the HLS playback class
[02:27:03] jya_: which can handle seeks
[02:28:27] jya_: the seek for HLS playback would only works when using mythavtest
[02:28:30] danielk22: ok. Then yeah, this should be pretty similar to RTP/UDP.. The IPTVStreamHandler is tied to the tuning data (URL) and the {UDP,RTP}PacketBuffer classes assemble the pieces.
[02:28:44] jya_: otherwise, the frontend only ever reads a recording, which is a mpeg-ts container
[02:31:03] danielk22: I do need to run now, but I can fill out this document this week and then we should probably have a chat early next week. That way you aren't getting lost in the existing code and getting frustrated before you even start.
[02:42:55] jya_: danielk22: too late :)
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[21:42:31] GreyFoxx: Would it be worth adding code to mythweb to not allow access if no username is used to access it unless specifically disabled?
[21:42:46] GreyFoxx: or a built in auto/cookie scheme ?
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[22:01:35] stuartm: Built-in login support rather than relying on htaccess would go a long way, but it would need to be done properly and securely
[22:05:39] stuartm: it's pretty simple to do with php, especially if you use the built-in session stuff, all you need is a login form, a setting in the backend for the password (I'd hash+salt that), strict input validation is a must and even then I'd not do the password comparison in SQL, but fetch the hash from the DB then compare
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