| Monday, April 8th, 2013, 00:17 UTC | ||
| [00:17:52] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, ooh. Should I have set the milestone on those tickets? |
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| [00:23:07] | wagnerrp: | in theory, the commit script should have done it for you |
| [00:23:21] | wagnerrp: | in practice, i still haven't gotten around to making the commit script do it for you |
| [00:24:35] | wagnerrp: | i just set up this one a while back to catch anything that got missed... http://code.mythtv.org/trac/report/27 |
| [00:26:33] | kormoc: | gotcha |
| [00:27:31] | wagnerrp: | ugh... i hate it when i find one of those adhesive non-slip pads on the floor, and have absolutely no clue where it came from |
| [00:28:05] | kormoc: | happens that often eh? |
| [00:28:19] | wagnerrp: | maybe once every few months |
| [00:28:24] | kormoc: | huh |
| [00:28:53] | wagnerrp: | you know those little stick on rubber or foam pads that you find on the bottom of electronics |
| [00:29:10] | kormoc: | ooh, those things. I was thinking like bathtub stickers |
| [00:36:21] | wagnerrp: | well you know, i just find carpet to be too slippery normally |
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| [00:55:27] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you notice the qt stuff moved from x11-libs/qt-* to dev-qt/qt*? |
| [00:57:33] | kormoc: | I haven't poked at the ebuilds in forever |
| [00:57:45] | kormoc: | I only have myth in a VM these days, no real mythbox |
| [00:57:58] | kormoc: | so I'm on fedora just for ease of use |
| [01:06:17] | wagnerrp: | i'm intending to actually follow through with my plan to update the ebuild generator, and tie it into buildbot |
| [01:06:33] | wagnerrp: | tried updating world, only to find myth's dependencies missing, or rather renamed |
| [02:06:05] | sphery: | xris: max episodes does honor (meaning ignore programs in) the Deleted recgroup . See line 694 in AutoExpire::ExpireEpisodesOverMax() , which starts at http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . ire.cpp#n652 |
| [02:10:45] | sphery: | stuartm: regarding the mouse cursor, you did remove the seeing in [27324], but then you restored it in [27325] by reverting the commit citing "one valid objection to auto-hiding and that involves touchscreens", but without saying what that objection was (it may have been mentioned in IRC or on lists, but I don't remember the discussion) |
| [02:10:45] | MythLogBot: | SVN 27325: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ba1f912e |
| [02:10:57] | sphery: | [27324] |
| [02:10:57] | MythLogBot: | SVN 27324: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/5179b04a |
| [02:11:12] | sphery: | (guess it didn't like the comma following the svn ref :) |
| [02:13:32] | sphery: | and, actually, you only reverted the settings removal part of the commit--the rest of the changes (to auto-hide) were kept |
| [02:21:22] | xris: | sphery: I meant that it deletes them outright rather than moving them to the deleted group |
| [02:21:53] | sphery: | dekarl: yeah, I couldn't explain why it would work, again, after reverting to an older version, but I figured that there is likely something else in play that the user didn't recognize--but then again, maybe that's just my "if the user is in the US and isn't using Schedules Direct, he probably doesn't know what he's doing" bias. I'll just ask him to verify he has active EIT collection enabled. |
| [02:22:17] | sphery: | xris: ah, I see what you mean, and yeah, that's the way it works |
| [02:22:25] | xris: | yup. just annoying. |
| [02:22:51] | xris: | it's a kids show that records like 8x/day. I'd just gone through 150 recordings to mark out the 50 or so actual episodes. queued them up in nuvexport. |
| [02:23:00] | xris: | then set max recordings to 1 and they all went away. |
| [02:23:06] | xris: | now I need to re-record/cut/export. |
| [02:23:17] | xris: | I've done this before. bad memory. :) |
| [02:23:36] | sphery: | it could probably be changed to put them in deleted recgroup, but we should see what Captain_Murdoch thinks (I don't use the functionality, and I know he does and knows more about how users are using it) |
| [02:24:49] | sphery: | yeah, I see why that would be annoying--and is really a bit confusing for users, now that Deleted recgroup usage is the default/the way all recordings are deleted |
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| [03:31:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | since the max episodes code predates the deleted group code, the max episodes delete was probably just skipped. I'm fine with changing it so that max episodes deletes go into the deleted recgroup. that may also let users catch something that was auto-deleted before they got a chance to finish watching and it makes things more consistent. |
| [03:32:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | I use it extensively in the 'stop recording when we reach the max' mode. I don't currently have any shows set to record new and delete old. |
| [03:32:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | about 15% of my schedules have a max set. |
| [03:42:07] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: I used to use the record new/delete old stuff for foodtv stuff. but these days we don't have time to watch the tv we do record. and the kid would freak out of one of his favorite episodes scrolled off. |
| [03:42:46] | xris: | not sure why I did the max-recordings value. I hadn't noticed the "inactive" setting for a recording rule, which was actually what I wanted. |
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| [05:46:00] | jya_: | danielk22: are you there? |
| [05:46:16] | jya_: | had a bit of time today, wanted to look into the HLS recorder |
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| [08:38:46] | stuartm: | the user in #11404 is being almost deliberately obstructive, we ask for more information and all we get are half answers |
| [08:38:46] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11404 ** | |
| [08:40:33] | stuartm: | sphery: the objection was that touchscreen users don't want the cursor to appear every time they touch the screen, now I'd argue that if they are using a touchscreen they need to completely disable the cursor at the window system level |
| [08:41:29] | stuartm: | maybe QT doesn't respect that and still causes it to reappear? |
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| [11:22:21] | sphery: | stuartm: I'd be surprised if Qt draws a cursor on a system where X is started with -nocursor (i.e. X -nocursor or startx — -nocursor or xinit — -nocursor) . I could try to do some testing in the next couple weeks. Note, also, I didn't read the conversation wagn errp mentioned, so I'm not sure what the user was wanting. |
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| [12:04:50] | danielk22: | heh, I was about to close #11074, but it's been so long since I used trac that I forgot my password! |
| [12:04:50] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11074 ** | |
| [12:05:30] | danielk22: | (I can reset it myself. I just found it amusing.) |
| [12:09:38] | danielk22: | jya_: It's probably a good idea for me to just document generally how the IPTV stuff works + how MythTV recorders work in general. There also were some important patches that got lost in the merge to master (there were two branches where IPTV work was happening). |
| [12:11:36] | danielk22: | I'll try to do that this week in the wiki. Unfortunately, it is a rather busy week for me, both at work and with some tax documents due on the 15th. I'll at least get started. |
| [12:12:55] | danielk22: | It really should be quite straightforward to write an HLS recorder given what already exists, maybe 2–4 hours to get things working initially. |
| [12:13:39] | danielk22: | It's just a matter of sticking things in the right places, subclassing the right things, etc.. And it all should be well documented. |
| [12:21:38] | stuartm: | sphery: the user just wanted the mouse to be displayed when using mythnetvision so they could see where they were clicking on the flash videos, unchecking the 'Hide mouse cursor' setting worked for them, especially since the mouse cursor was still hidden when not in use |
| [12:22:39] | stuartm: | danielk22: I've no idea what my trac password is any more, opera remembers it for me thankfully |
| [12:24:43] | stuartm: | I'm using a 'wallet' application too for all my passwords, basically just an encrypted map, these days every site gets a different random password so there's no chance that I could remember them all |
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| [15:06:04] | gigem: | sphery, xris, Captain_Murdoch: I'm going to try to look at the maxepisodes delete code today. |
| [15:06:58] | gigem: | stuartm: Agree on the #11404 reporter. It sounds like maybe a mythweb issue now. Perhaps kormoc or xris can take a look at it. |
| [15:06:58] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11404 ** | |
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| [16:27:24] | stuartm: | dekarl: thanks for persisting :) He still hasn't explained where he's getting his guide data from, but we don't even know whether that's going to be relevant until he starts giving more complete answers |
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| [16:39:30] | jarle: | dekarl: seems like you were correct regarding crc and eit problems. After crawling for 24H my long term EIT now seems to be in place finally. |
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| [16:59:43] | xris: | gigem: oh, cool. |
| [16:59:58] | dekarl-work: | jarle, PID 0x82 is related to encryption and without CRC (unless you are on Dish Network in the US which has guide data with CRC on it). |
| [17:02:19] | jarle: | dekarl-work: ok, thanks. |
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| [17:10:08] | sphery: | gigem: Nice, and thank you. I think that will definitely be the "path of least surprise" for users. |
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| [20:11:10] | TheFuzz4: | whats going on everyone? |
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| [20:25:33] | TheFuzz4: | are any of the mythtv frontend beta devs in here? |
| [20:29:29] | peper03: | TheFuzz4: Best is just to ask your question. Responses can sometimes take some time. Depends who's physically at their keyboard. |
| [20:29:40] | peper03: | BTW, I'm not an official Myth dev :) |
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| [20:45:08] | TheFuzz4: | hehe gotcha peper03 oh I was just wondering if they were looking for any extra hands with troubleshooting |
| [20:45:16] | TheFuzz4: | I had an idea for an app like this |
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| [20:45:20] | TheFuzz4: | and then boom there it si |
| [20:45:21] | TheFuzz4: | is |
| [20:49:43] | peper03: | TheFuzz4: I'm sure no help would be turned down. I guess this would be the right link to start with: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki#Wantingtohelpout |
| [20:50:40] | peper03: | I think there are plenty of ways to help, whether coding, reproducing, testing, documentation... |
| [20:51:08] | sphery: | That said, I wonder if you're talking about some non-official MythTV project... We only have one official MythTV frontend, so unless "mythtv frontend beta" is referring to the unstable/development version of mythfrontend, it's probably not our project. |
| [20:52:27] | sphery: | Do you mean "MythTV Android Frontend", which is now in beta testing? |
| [20:54:18] | peper03: | Ah, when you don't own a device 'smart' enough for anything like that, you don't tend to consider them :) |
| [20:58:54] | sphery: | It's possible some of the android client's devs hang out here, but I think they have other places where they discuss it--because I don't remember seeing much/any discussion about it, here. Their github site is at https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Android-Frontend and they use the github issue tracker. Based on https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Andr . . . /Development , it seems most people just set up a development ... |
| [20:59:00] | sphery: | ... environment and then submit patches via issues, but that's just a guess. |
| [21:01:17] | TheFuzz4: | sphery, that is exactly what I'm talking about |
| [21:01:24] | TheFuzz4: | I thought their git site said to come here |
| [21:01:40] | TheFuzz4: | but yeah I'll just go pull the code and start working :) and submit patches as I get them :) |
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| [21:05:40] | TheFuzz4: | thanks |
| [21:05:44] | TheFuzz4: | btw MythTV rocks the casba |
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| [21:06:13] | TheFuzz4: | we finally just purchased our 3rd frontend for our house the other day so just waiting for it to come in |
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| [21:53:51] | jya_: | danielk22: Well, give me a yell when you're done… though if you have a quick 5 minutes to tell me what does what and where you think i need to piggy back my thing, I can try to figure out most by myself |
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| [22:03:23] | ** gigem thinks we should close and lock #11404 until the reporter learns how to answer questions. ** | |
| [22:03:23] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11404 ** | |
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| [22:56:25] | danielk22: | jya_: I |
| [22:57:24] | danielk22: | jya_: I'll see if I can't find a few minutes after bed time tonight. Part of the problem is I need to look at the code to remind myself where everything is. |
| [22:58:03] | jya_: | danielk22: no worries… |
| [22:59:28] | danielk22: | jya_: I really want more people to know how the recorders work. :) |
| [23:00:51] | jya_: | danielk22: oh, I knew how it worked before… I have more trouble figuring it out now :) |
| [23:02:14] | jya_: | now everything between channel, dtv, streamer, recorder is a bit blurry… everything cross-call one another.. |
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| [23:11:44] | danielk22: | jya_: The XXXStreamHandler lives at the bottom of the call-graph, that's where all the 'hardware specific' stuff goes. But that's not really where the explanation should start. For instance you need to understand iptvtuningdata.h first and that has no documentation at the moment. |
| [23:13:03] | danielk22: | jya_: I did describe all this stuff to Radhika over a series of e-mails last year. But she's no longer working on MythTV so the hoped for docs from her will not materialize. |
| [23:13:21] | jya_: | no idea who she is |
| [23:15:36] | danielk22: | She was a developer at Digital Nirvana. She was planning to work on IPTV stuff, so I handed things off to her. But then she left DN. |
| [23:18:22] | taylorr: | jpabq: have you seen ticket #11435 yet? seems like it fixes warpme's issue that he raised on the ML a little while back |
| [23:18:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11435 ** | |
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