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Friday, April 5th, 2013, 00:02 UTC
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[00:07:41] Seeker: stichnot: taylorr: It has been suggested that one of you may have been looking at seeking performance on mpeg2 videos, which of you would it have been?
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[04:28:03] stichnot: Seeker: that's most likely me. If seeking performance has suffered a regression, it's likely because the recorder isn't identifying all of the keyframes. Especially if the seeking performance is fixed by doing "mythcommflag --rebuild".
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[07:43:29] esperegu: what is the status of unicable in mythtv? I saw there are patches available for more then 2 years (http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9726) is it not yet included in the main version?
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[07:52:16] dekarl-work: esperegu, does the patch work for you? Some more "works good for me" reports from users with and without Unicable would be good. If it helps I can provide a PPA
[07:53:24] esperegu: dekarl-work: I am actually still running 0.23.20100314–1 atm.
[07:53:53] esperegu: dekarl-work: I ordered all my new stuff not knowing that it required not only hardware but also software support :-(
[07:54:15] esperegu: dekarl-work: thought this was handled at the hardware lvl.
[07:54:20] esperegu: (driver that is)
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[07:55:08] dekarl-work: esperegu: so you have an empty system to play with? I can provide a PPA for Mythbuntu 12.04 LTS / 0.26/fixes so testing would only involve installing vanilla Mythbuntu + enabling the PPA
[07:55:17] esperegu: dekarl-work: of course a ppa would help.
[07:55:44] esperegu: dekarl-work: yes. I have a test HD with mythbuntu 12.04 with a 3.8 kernel I think.
[07:56:21] esperegu: dekarl-work: I can test it on there when I receive the package.
[07:56:25] dekarl-work: building a Ubuntu package with a patch is quite straightforward (aka. I don't know when I can provide the PPA) see http://www.mythbuntu.org/development/recipes
[07:57:54] esperegu: dekarl-work: suppose a ppa would help more to try it....
[07:59:09] dekarl-work: esperegu: sure, I just wanted to point out the alternative for testing today/now instead of "after I can look into it, likely sometime this weekend"
[07:59:24] esperegu: dekarl-work: I pm'd u ;-)
[07:59:45] esperegu: dekarl-work: I ordered it but did not receive it yet.
[07:59:56] esperegu: when I get it I can test.
[08:00:01] dekarl-work: esperegu: ahh, now I need to figure out how to add you to the tickets watch list :D
[08:00:15] esperegu: dekarl-work: so no hurry with a patch ;-)
[08:00:50] esperegu: I mean ppa
[08:03:01] dekarl-work: I'll see if I can squeeze it in this weekend, you will find it over there (surprise) https://launchpad.net/~dekarl
[08:03:41] dekarl-work: See you around
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[08:51:47] Seeker: stichnot: The problem I was having was with regards to .mkv containing h264 encoded video which seems to seek well on other players (VLC, XBMC) but not on Myth
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[09:25:05] stuartm: Seeker: how were those encoded? I've not noticed problems with the H.264 in MKV produced by ripping Blu-ray via MakeMKV
[09:25:43] stuartm: it's not doing any re-encoding, suggesting the problem has less to do with the container than the codec
[09:26:39] Seeker: stuartm: reencoded via x264
[09:26:47] Seeker: original sourced in the same way though
[09:27:44] Seeker: I don't have access to the PC with the settings I used right now, but I think it was High profile 4.1 slow with a crf of 20. Don't think I used any other options.
[09:28:02] Seeker: oh, and I stripped out audio, and put it back in later with mkvmerge
[09:28:39] stuartm: we don't need or use an external seektable for mkv, mythcommflag --rebuild won't help and based on previous experience can make things worse
[09:29:13] stuartm: Seeker: heh, that sounds complicated :) Did it actually save much space?
[09:29:36] Seeker: yeah, thats what wagner suggested in -users yesterday. I checked and there isn't an entry in the database for that file
[09:29:58] Seeker: Season 7 of House looks like it will go from 198GB to about 60GB (having stripped HD audio too)
[09:30:14] Seeker: Game of Thrones went from 11–14GB/episode to 5–6GB/episode
[09:32:08] stuartm: not too bad
[09:32:28] Seeker: almost no real degredation in video quality, apart from in very dark scenes
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[10:33:59] sphery: FWIW, I'm pretty sure current mythcommflag (and mythtranscode) will refuse to build seek tables (and may, in fact--should clear any existing seek tables) for mkv
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[13:10:11] Seeker: sphery: yeah, I dont think it is a seektables problem. Might be something to do with the way mkv/h264 files are parsed
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[15:33:16] stichnot: Seeker: what exactly is the problem? You mentioned slow seeking?
[15:35:08] Seeker: stichnot: yeah, takes several seconds to skip forward by 10 seconds. Skipping to the next chapter results in a pause, then the last 10 or so frames from the previous chapter playing slowly before starting playback of the correct chapter
[15:36:58] stichnot: Seeker: I would look for interesting logs from mythfrontend -v playback,libav . What version of myth?
[15:37:17] Seeker: stichnot: master
[15:37:33] Seeker: I'm at work right now, I'll add grabbing the logs to my todo list
[15:39:08] stichnot: Master with jya's latest ffmpeg sync?
[15:39:39] Seeker: hmm, couple of weeks old I think
[15:39:54] Seeker: I built a new version last night, didn't get around to the make install though I think
[15:39:59] Seeker: I'll give that a go when I get home too
[15:44:36] sphery: #11476 = user has passive EIT scanning enabled and wants to enable active EIT scanning (or, really, based on e-mail address, user should be using Schedules Direct)
[15:44:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11476 **
[15:44:41] sphery: perhaps?
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[16:05:16] Seeker: bah, stichnot ran away
[16:07:18] sphery: Seeker: he reads the logs for times when he's not here, so he'll likely see whatever you say
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[19:41:40] stichnot: Seeker: yeah, I keep up with the logs.
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[19:55:58] Seeker: stichnot: did you see my PM?
[19:58:25] dekarl: sphery: active scan is a good question
[19:59:02] stichnot: Seeker: just saw it. (I should get an irc client that is better at alerting me to PMs...)
[20:03:36] Seeker: stichnot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5680880/
[20:03:38] Seeker: in case you need something to keep you busy while it downloads :P
[20:05:06] stichnot: Seeker: line 277 is interesting – "File is broken, keyframes not correctly marked!"
[20:05:16] Seeker: yeah, I saw that too
[20:10:22] dekarl: sphery: but it does not explain why falling back from "github fork" to 0.26.0 source tarball fixes "it"
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[20:54:11] peper03: Is there any define set during compilation such as 'MYTHTV'? Just wondering whether it would make sense to mark changes to external libraries like that to make it a bit more obvious what comes from where. Inline changes are obviously a bit tricky like that but it might make merging a bit easier. Comments would work too, but I wonder whether an #ifdef wouldn't be more obvious?
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[22:24:21] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: Better yet, eliminate the need for local patches. I have managed to get fixes upstream for libhdhomerun (for linux packaging). And I recently submitted a mythtv patch to libdvdnav that (I think) eliminates a local patch (perhaps the last one?)
[22:25:55] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: [to clarify, it is a patch to mythtv that eliminates the need for local patching (I think) of libdvdnav.]
[22:27:32] peper03: gary_buhrmaster: I agree, if that's possible. The particular change I want to make is in libdvdnav. I posted my thoughts to the mailing list in Februrary and had a grand total of 0 (zero) replies. I think the chances of much changing there are minimal.
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[22:55:55] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: The mythtv or libdvdnav mailing list? I admit I do not recall anything on the mythtv mailing list (but then, I may not have been paying attention).
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[23:01:29] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: With the fork of libdvdnav, there was a flood of patches that were applied (and had apparently been in some sort of limbo for many months), although now things seem to have gone back to slow (even though I submitted a patch for an edge case memory corruption, last I checked it was still pending, but then again, it would be a rare edge case with broken dvds; not that that has ever happened :-)
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