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| [00:16:38] | danielk22: | stichnot: The start and end times are really the only thing that allow proper syncing. I did run some experiments on with OCR + tesseract can do a good job, but only if you add some more lines of text at the bottom (just repeating the subtitle a image a couple times works). |
| [00:18:13] | danielk22: | stichnot: ProjectX can extract image based subtitles too, I think I may have based the format on that a bit. |
| [00:30:40] | jya: | ok… what about I do the merge for the new ffmpeg now ? |
| [00:43:37] | danielk22: | jya: no objection from me. i haven't tested it but i assume some others have. |
| [00:44:13] | jya: | somehow I doubt that :) |
| [00:44:37] | danielk22: | well, we have had sufficient opportunity anyway... |
| [00:44:54] | jya: | it's a long week-end here, so I'll have days of work to fix any rising issues |
| [00:45:20] | danielk22: | You get Friday off? |
| [00:46:08] | jya: | Good friday yes... |
| [00:46:39] | jya: | quite interesting really good friday. *everything* is closed.. this doesn't happen for any other time of the year, not even Christmas or New year |
| [00:47:20] | jya: | and supermarkets re-open at midnight |
| [00:47:32] | danielk22: | Heh, here I alternate side parking regulations are suspended (no street cleaning.) Although a friend of a friend does have the day off. :) |
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| [01:25:30] | tonsofpcs: | jya: where I'm from, we call days where everything is closed "Sunday" |
| [01:26:03] | jya: | I see… from after thursday here, we'll have 4 sundays in a row :) |
| [01:26:10] | gigem: | danielk22: I get Friday off too. The odd thing is I worked at the same company previously and we didn't get Good Friday off then. FWIW, the company I worked at in between had the best plan — each employee got two, personal religious holidays per year. That company was Israeli, though, so they were obviously more sensitive to non-Christian religions. |
| [01:28:04] | tonsofpcs: | lol jya :) |
| [01:28:36] | tonsofpcs: | gigem: we don't get good friday off. We get 'spring holiday' which happens to fall on good friday. |
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| [01:31:24] | gigem: | tonsofpcs: Sounds like the spring egg hunt and spring bunny festival crap I heard about last week. |
| [01:33:54] | jya: | talking about Easter bunny, I watched rise of the guardians with my kids last week. enjoyed it greatly… Well, now I've watched it about about 5 times and the novelty has worn off but still |
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| [01:50:59] | TandyUK: | Hey guys anyone awake (and im not after user shit :P) |
| [01:51:19] | TandyUK: | I was round a mates earlier, playing with his myth system which i put in for him |
| [01:51:42] | TandyUK: | and had an idea for a tweak to the list videos menu |
| [01:52:38] | TandyUK: | that is, if a level 2 menu, ie Root share name > This list ... |
| [01:53:13] | wagnerrp: | the root paths are hidden from the user |
| [01:53:17] | wagnerrp: | they never see them |
| [01:53:23] | TandyUK: | has more than say 25 (configurable?) items in it, display a list of first letters, eg A,B,D,G,M, filtered by the stuff in the folder |
| [01:53:51] | TandyUK: | open videos list, the first list that comes up o nthe left i called the root |
| [01:54:09] | TandyUK: | when you pick one, the list that comes up in the middle column im talking about changing |
| [01:54:29] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like the old list view |
| [01:54:37] | wagnerrp: | i doubt most people use that any longer |
| [01:54:48] | TandyUK: | old sounds good, is that able to be turned back on? |
| [01:55:02] | TandyUK: | scrolling through a 200 long list to get to "R" is painful |
| [01:55:16] | wagnerrp: | no. the "middle column" sounds like the list view |
| [01:55:24] | wagnerrp: | most people don't use that view |
| [01:55:30] | TandyUK: | especially as you cant press up when on the first item to go to the end of the list |
| [01:55:33] | wagnerrp: | it's generally only used by people with low resolution displays |
| [01:55:42] | TandyUK: | its nothing to do with resolution lol |
| [01:55:50] | Seeker`: | can't you use Ctrl+S (or similar) to search? |
| [01:55:56] | wagnerrp: | and you can use page up/down to scroll faster |
| [01:55:57] | TandyUK: | pressing down 150 times to get to the item you want is nasty |
| [01:56:39] | TandyUK: | that might be a learnign curve the end user could cope with :P |
| [01:56:45] | wagnerrp: | tandyuk: the point is that on something like the gallery view, where you often have many videos on a single row, it's not so much of an issue |
| [01:57:13] | TandyUK: | yeah for some reason this user likes list view |
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| [03:07:40] | jya: | That one thing I've always found incredibly annoying in the recording page. It takes forever to find something. Being to press 1 once for A, twice for B, three times for C etc… just like you do on mobile phones would be a great help |
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| [07:58:43] | dekarl: | jya, even dancing in night clubs is forbidden over here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_ban 2011 there were heavy controls of the ban (in Frankfurt) which led to quite some disputes |
| [08:09:57] | jya: | is that anytime of the year or just on a particular day? Well, consider yourself lucky, you can now pray undisturbed :) |
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| [08:45:15] | dekarl: | only on silent/high christian holy days |
| [08:46:31] | dekarl: | three to four days each year |
| [08:47:45] | dekarl: | s/days/times/ on easter its friday and saturday for many states |
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| [12:59:16] | stuartm: | TandyUK: there's the 'incremental search' feature, you can enter the first letter, part or all of the name and it will jump straight to that entry |
| [13:00:36] | TandyUK: | is that buried in a config menu or something? |
| [13:01:11] | TandyUK: | also is there any way to make videos list actually show the extnesion |
| [13:01:39] | TandyUK: | Eg, a foler i am looking at has "sparks-moal-xvid" listed twice |
| [13:01:57] | stuartm: | TandyUK: it's a keybinding, pressing the key brings up the dialog |
| [13:02:23] | TandyUK: | you see thats where i really struggle with an MCE usb remote |
| [13:02:33] | TandyUK: | we dont have any spare keys to use for somethign else |
| [13:02:43] | TandyUK: | it has to beased on up, down, left , right, ok |
| [13:02:46] | TandyUK: | pretty much |
| [13:02:55] | stuartm: | * # ? |
| [13:03:01] | TandyUK: | # is delete |
| [13:03:06] | TandyUK: | not sure about * |
| [13:03:15] | TandyUK: | but * doesnt say "search" |
| [13:03:22] | TandyUK: | so that would just get confusing |
| [13:03:32] | TandyUK: | what id like to see is a by default listing, which goes |
| [13:03:51] | TandyUK: | Movies > A > A day in the ..... > movie.mpg |
| [13:04:09] | stuartm: | btw, where you say "you cant press up when on the first item to go to the end of the list" << That's a function of the theme, and you could edit the theme to allow it |
| [13:04:19] | TandyUK: | ok im using the default theme |
| [13:04:50] | TandyUK: | im sure most of these things are possible |
| [13:05:02] | TandyUK: | its just how much of it an end user expects to work by default, out of the box |
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| [14:01:52] | stichnot: | stuartm: I'd kinda like it if pressing a number key like 4 would jump to the 40% point in a list of recordings/videos/whatever |
| [14:02:55] | stuartm: | stichnot: the problem with that is that many users bind 1–9 to other actions and it would cause all sorts of conflicts |
| [14:03:53] | stuartm: | and it doesn't help touchscreen users, I don't dislike the idea of dividing up the video list into All, A, B C ... Z, much like it's done in mythmusic |
| [14:04:12] | stichnot: | Interesting. What kinds of actions? (wondering if I should do that myself...) |
| [14:04:58] | stichnot: | I'm thinking of the Watch Recordings list which is normally sorted by date. A-Z grouping doesn't help much. |
| [14:05:12] | stuartm: | stichnot: well in mythmusic it's always historically been used to switch between views, the playlist editor, the fullscreen visualiser et al |
| [14:05:51] | stichnot: | One possibility would be to offer "Jump to 10%", "Jump to 20%", etc. actions that can be bound to keys if you want |
| [14:06:10] | stuartm: | stichnot: we can come up with a similar approach for recordings group by date/week/year/whatever |
| [14:06:20] | stichnot: | but this is just a thought, I'm not passionate enough to implement anything yet :) |
| [14:07:35] | stichnot: | stuartm: The problem is that for at least one of my use cases, the date distribution is very non-uniform. For example, I start recording all "Dora the Explorer" episodes and I get a ton for the first week or three, followed by a long tail. |
| [14:07:40] | stuartm: | I think taking the mythmusic approach to mythvideo and recordings might be the best approach, it's touchscreen friendly, it's user-friendly because instead of burying filter options in context menus and settings dialogs all possible options are there on-screen, easy to navigate and see |
| [14:08:56] | stichnot: | I guess coming up with an intelligent clustering for my use case could make it workable in the same framework |
| [14:12:01] | stuartm: | mythmusic offers grouping by Artist/Album/Year/Genre/Rating and others I can't remember just now, each is then sub-divided further making it easier to whittle down to exactly what you were looking for |
| [14:12:33] | stuartm: | failing that all collections (video/music/recordings/games) offer a search facility |
| [14:13:31] | stichnot: | yeah, I really like the incremental search, even when I have to suffer through it with a remote control |
| [14:13:59] | stichnot: | jya: I'm ready for the ffmpeg merge |
| [14:17:34] | stuartm: | jya: have you tested it against samples of DVDs and foreign channels, hdpvr output etc? |
| [14:20:41] | stuartm: | e.g. https://www.box.com/files/0/f/428372080/MythT . . . sion_testing |
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| [21:24:42] | jya: | stuartm: not against all those files, but against all the samples I have that have been accumulated over the years that showed problem at one time or another |
| [21:28:59] | stuartm: | good enough for me |
| [21:30:20] | stuartm: | we can't avoid regressions entirely, but we can check that typical broadcast material (or DVD) isn't affected in a way that was easily avoidable |
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| [21:56:52] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: the correct answer is "stop downloading illegal movies that are in 2-parts for stupid and arbitrary reasons" |
| [21:57:04] | wagnerrp: | "sparks-moal-xvid" is "Man on a Ledge" |
| [22:02:01] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: sorry, you've lost me |
| [22:02:42] | stuartm: | oh, right, had to go back over the log :) |
| [22:03:04] | stuartm: | I don't think I was actually paying that much attention at the time :) |
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| [22:09:18] | wagnerrp: | be a cynic. expect that most strange filename problems will be the result of illegal downloading... :P |
| [22:11:13] | stuartm: | sounded Dutch or maybe Scandinavian :) |
| [22:12:04] | stuartm: | of course the xvid is a dead giveaway, but as I say, I really wasn't paying close attention at the time |
| [22:17:41] | dekarl: | xvid is a giveaway for getting caught stealing second quality... |
| [22:32:16] | tonsofpcs: | /win 4 |
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| [22:59:38] | paul-h: | stuartm, stichnot: I have a commit in my fork that adds the quick scrolling to buttonlists if you are interested https://github.com/paul-h/mythtv/commit/8a9910a1e |
| [23:00:26] | paul-h: | I haven't cherry picked it because as you say it can be annoying if you have the number keys mapped to something else |
| [23:01:04] | jpabq: | I just got an email from a Amazon.com head hunter. They want to interview me for a job in Seattle. |
| [23:01:52] | stuartm: | jpabq: nice |
| [23:02:23] | jpabq: | I am not really interested in moving to Seattle, but it is always nice to have options. |
| [23:02:59] | stuartm: | wonder if they offer a staff discount ... |
| [23:05:26] | jpabq: | I buy so much from Amazon, that that could be a very nice bonus. |
| [23:06:02] | jpabq: | It would be for their "Amazon Instant Video team" |
| [23:07:02] | jpabq: | She found me via LinkedIn — so anyone interested should make sure their LinkedIn page has their Myth experience on it. |
| [23:08:55] | danielk22: | I recently got a ping from a Spotify recruiter via LinkedIn. She didn't say if MythTV was a keyword she searched for. I should have asked. |
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