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Tuesday, February 26th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:14:41] danielk221: superm1: Cool :)
[00:17:21] danielk221: stuarta: If distros built Qt5 with C++03 we'd be stuck without C++11 features for a while since C++03 and C++11 are ABI incompatible w/gcc.
[00:20:05] stuarta: still, in general they haven't even started building it
[00:23:23] danielk221: stuarta: Yeah it is a bit surprising. The Qt4 uptake seemed a lot faster even though the porting was extremely painful.
[00:38:36] superm1: did QT3 and QT4 allow being installed side by side in general?
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[00:47:40] stuarta: yes i believe they did
[00:48:33] jams: yes it did..but you had to adjust some enviroment variables to set which one to use. similiar to multiple javas installed on the same system
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[01:07:40] danielk221: With qt4/5 on ubuntu there is a qtchooser script.
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[02:51:20] taylorr: stichnot: any issue with cherry picking http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id . . . 104fc0dd6d8d for 0.25-fixes?
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[04:16:15] stichnot: taylorr: tbh, I forgot about 0.25. It's a good idea, I'll cherry pick it if it compiles.
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[04:43:19] wagnerrp: no, maybe just that one connection stalled...
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[14:09:35] taylorr: stichnot: thanks!
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[16:25:54] stuarta: anyone remember where we documented the workflow for merging pull requests found on github?
[16:25:59] stuartm: ok, it seems there is no current mechanism to wake up the backend periodically to update guide data? Any reason not to add something? I was thinking xmltv/SD initially
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[16:29:25] stuarta: i can see people who want scheduled eit data liking that too
[16:31:37] stuarta: there is an outstanding ticket somewhere for please only get eit data from x to y
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[16:32:19] stuarta: so i could see that mechanism being leveraged to 1. start eit collection 2. stop eit collection
[16:32:28] stuartm: yeah, I'd add something for EIT too, but initially xmltv is easier since we know exactly when it was last run and the interval between runs (~24 hours) and when mfdb exits we know we can shut down again
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[16:34:50] stuartm: I'm also using xmltv so I have sufficient motivation to make it work
[16:57:05] stuarta: hmpf. how do i close this pull request now i've done it?
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[17:19:14] stuarta: Beirdo: do we need any special permissions on github to close pull requests?
[17:22:01] knightr: stuarta, yep AFAIK we do and only a handful of people have it... The last time I got one Stuart M had to close it for me...
[17:22:21] stuarta: i'm in a mood to trim low hanging fruit
[17:22:44] stuarta: stuartm: is there anything you can tweak so i can close out a pull request?
[17:25:53] stuartm: stuarta: try now?
[17:26:21] stuarta: ahah
[17:26:21] stuartm: it's stupid but it seems like only admins get to close requests and not developers
[17:26:22] stuarta: thanks
[17:28:22] stuarta: we should request that devs can handle pull requests
[17:28:33] stuarta: wonder if it's something they can tweak
[17:29:40] knightr: bah, there`s always somebody with admin rights to do it for us <sarcasm>
[17:29:43] knightr: :-)
[17:29:43] stuartm: might be because we've disabled push privledges for the 'Developer' group since we don't want people accidentally pushing to that repo
[17:30:19] stuartm: but the lack of 'Push' privs shouldn't prevent people from closing pull requests
[17:31:01] stuartm: they don't seem to have a fine grained perms system, it's all or nothing (well very little)
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[17:32:49] stuarta: note to self. merge is nicer than cherry pick, hopefully it should keep the dots joined on the network graph
[17:36:06] stuartm: we could just give everyone full access, and it's not that we don't trust everyone, but it's not a smart thing to do as has been proved time and again with other projects, as just one person needs to have their ssh key or whatever compromised ...
[17:36:56] stuartm: anyway, stuarta is now a repo admin on Github :)
[17:37:32] stuartm: only fair since he's been a dev longer than I have (by something like a week)
[17:37:35] stuarta: \o/
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[17:50:00] stuarta: so it seems if you do the merge the right way, github or one of beirdo's bots automatically close the pull request
[17:50:58] ** stuarta goes home **
[17:51:06] stichnot: stuarta: regarding #11411. I've been running that patch for about 2 weeks now
[17:51:06] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11411 **
[17:51:22] stichnot: I've had one mythcommflag segfault during that time
[17:51:54] stichnot: Re-queuing mythcommflag, it finishes fine
[17:52:47] stichnot: so it could be an artifact of flagging an in-progress recording, or some uninitialized memory that makes it flake sometimes
[17:53:10] stichnot: but my sense is that the change greatly improves the situation
[17:53:47] stichnot: I have another recording where I killed the backend during the recording. mythcommflag without the patch consistently fails, and with the patch consistently succeeds
[17:57:36] stichnot: My main point here is to give a little extra anecdotal evidence if discussion comes up
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[18:54:57] stuarta: stichnot: i'll take a look in a bit
[18:56:02] stichnot: stuarta: no need to take a look, I'm just commenting on the commit you made / tickets you closed for possible future reference.
[19:10:40] stuarta: ah yes, that was one of those i fixed :)
[19:20:45] gigem: stuarta: Do you plan to apply the patch for #11411 to fixes-0.26? After stichnot's comments, I'm inclined to apply it to my personal, 0.26 branch if you don't. I've been averaging 1 or 2 failed commflags a day since I beefed up my backend and re-enabled real-time flagging.
[19:20:45] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11411 **
[19:24:05] stuarta: i don't think it would hurt
[19:24:11] stuarta: take about 2 secs to backport
[19:24:19] stuarta: biab
[19:43:35] stichnot: gigem: interesting... you think that the mythcommflag segfaults are correlated with real-time flagging?
[20:16:15] gigem: stichnot: I hadn't put the two together until now, but I guess so. I don't recall many failures before I changed the backend and turned on real-time flagging(*). Technically, I didn't turn on real-time flagging. It was still on from my old, two SD-only, tuner days. What I really did was change the allowed job hours from overnight only to 24 hours a day.
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[21:00:48] stuarta: feck. that merge commit reverted a whole bunch of other stuff
[21:00:50] stuarta: grr
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[21:01:36] stuarta: or am i imagining it
[21:03:28] stuartm: dunno, git gives me a headache, a simple diff shows nothing being removed but I'm not sure whether I trust git diff to show the true picture
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[21:04:16] stuarta: what concerns me is this http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/aaa5255 . . . d500a/mythtv
[21:05:14] stuarta: biab
[21:14:13] stuartm: I don't entirely understand it, but if you read the comment at the top of that page vis. "Note: this is a merge changeset, the changes displayed below correspond to the merge itself Use the (diff) links above to see all the changes relative to each parent." Then it seems fine, the diff against master of our tree shows only the AAC changes, the diff against the remote branch shows the changes that he last merged back from master?
[21:15:40] stuarta: i think what has happened is his branch isn't merged up to latest master
[21:16:07] stuarta: if you look at the network graph, you can see it goes back 2 weeks or so, to pickup the point at which he committed that fix
[21:16:34] stuarta: against his branch, and when i merged that change, it had to do a merge commit between the 2
[21:17:48] stuarta: checking a few of our recent commits, they are still in master, not reverted
[21:17:51] stuarta: </panic>
[21:22:44] stuartm: it's a really very strange way of illustrating it though, github doesn't show any of that and it's less confusing as a result
[21:23:23] Chutt: merge commits are so annoying to review, i've never seen anything handle them nicely
[21:23:40] stuarta: i think i may go back to cherry picking
[21:35:39] stuarta: it looks like it's all worked out fine
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[21:48:49] wagnerrp: how did i end up as owner on #11380?
[21:49:49] stuarta: i think you committed the earlier version
[21:50:33] wagnerrp: ah
[21:54:21] wagnerrp: it's tough to tell... spam? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=UPnP_Client_ . . . p;rcid=65155
[21:56:48] Steve-Goodey: wagnerrp: Yeah I wondered that. Then saw the list of other clients.
[21:58:57] wagnerrp: meh, i'm reverting it
[21:59:11] wagnerrp: Sonos is already listed as not working with mythtv's upnp server
[21:59:26] wagnerrp: no sense listing one boutique outfit that sells sonos hardware
[22:00:34] Steve-Goodey: Good point, also if someone moans you can take the hit :-)
[22:04:17] wagnerrp: google seems to indicate it's a personality created to create links to that site anywhere "sonos" is mentioned... http://audisrs.com/sutra516383.php#516383
[22:08:18] MythBuild: build #3438 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3438 blamelist: Shinck@web.de <Shinck@web.de >
[22:08:29] wagnerrp: awesome
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[22:12:53] ** stuarta sighs **
[22:14:29] stuarta: now how do i fix that.... hmm....
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[22:17:03] stuarta: see this is why we have a buildslave network
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[22:19:55] wagnerrp: how am i using 101MB of swap? i should just disable swap
[22:24:17] ** stuarta takes the plunge and attempts f17 -> f18 upgrade on the f17 build slave **
[22:25:45] wagnerrp: i see no objects for anything in libs/libmythtv/recorders/
[22:25:52] wagnerrp: its like that whole thing is getting skipped
[22:26:09] wagnerrp: logs never indicate it was built
[22:27:40] wagnerrp: as freebsd is being built on the buildbot with no DVB support, as DVB is a linux subsystem, not a freebsd one
[22:28:07] stuarta: ah, so we might have a build conditional missing?
[22:28:54] wagnerrp: he made DTVSignalMonitor dependent on DVBChannel
[22:29:06] stuarta: well i committed it so it did
[22:29:17] stuarta: i did wonder about that part of the patch
[22:31:38] wagnerrp: let me know if you want an instance to play around with
[22:31:57] stuarta: i'm going to hack it about a bit and see if it works
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[22:49:58] MythBuild: build #3439 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3439
[22:52:12] stuarta: \o/
[22:52:26] stuarta: lets hope it still actually works to fix the bug
[22:54:55] stuarta: well it's running as my dev backend instance atm
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[23:07:03] Seeker`: Has anyone else got a frontend on master and some recordings from 4HD?
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[23:16:25] Seeker`: I think 5ccedb61dd might have broken playback of 4HD recordings
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[23:26:37] jpabq___: Should I backport [87a15e1ce] to fixes/0.26 ?
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[23:29:17] jpabq: In other words #11328
[23:29:17] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11328 **
[23:31:49] stuartm: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/5ccedb61dd
[23:35:02] stichnot: Seeker`: more details please
[23:36:23] stuartm: Seeker`: I have recordings, but I'm currently on the commit before that one, won't try upgrading to latest master until tomorrow at the earliest
[23:38:11] stichnot: stuartm: presumably this would only affect recordings made with that commit in place. (or if the seektable is rebuilt via mythcommflag --rebuild)
[23:42:17] stichnot: jpabq: backporting that seems like a reasonable thing. Especially for people using various cutting scripts.
[23:42:43] jpabq: stichnot: okay. will do.
[23:43:29] stichnot: jpabq: I think I'm seeing the affect of that improvement with neufeld's HDPVR+PVR150 caption mechanism. Now my captions are always in sync and I don't have to make any adjustments during playback.
[23:44:58] jpabq: That's nice. I somehow broke HD-PVR + PVR500 captions recently. I haven't taken the time to figure out what I did, but the the v4l2-ctl calls to the PVR-500 are failing.
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[23:52:01] stichnot: With the caption script, it's unfortunate that it has to wait until the recording is finished just so it can work out when the hdpvr actually wrote the first (key)frame. I wonder if it would be reasonable to delay the RECORDING_START event until then. Then it would probably become possible to get the captions for live TV and in-progress recordings.
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