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Monday, December 3rd, 2012, 00:11 UTC
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[04:32:39] skd5aner: it was stichnot who mentioned earlier in the day that he sets his STB to force 720p output
[04:33:25] skd5aner: but good datapoint to know that taylorr and jpabq both allow it to switch...
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[05:33:30] stichnot: skd5aner: my DISH STB only allows one to set 720p or 1080i output, there's no "passthrough" option. Early on, 1080i recordings would crash and/or include a garish green line at the bottom, so I stuck with 720p. Again, "if it ain't broke..."
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[10:38:54] stuartm: does anyone know why mythshutdown uses a hardcoded script instead of using the same ShutdownCommand setting as the backend?
[10:39:42] stuartm: err that's "SetWakeuptimeCommand"
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[11:34:03] stuartm: http://pastebin.com/3KZmSXWr – Always use localHostName instead of system hostname – Am I crazy to think it's that simple?
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[15:11:53] kenni: Note to self: Never close old tickets which seems reasonable to close – they will just respawn as multiple new tickets :)
[15:13:09] stuartm: kenni: a few hours before you closed that, tgm4883 had been asking about backporting it to 0.25 so I suspected it wasn't about to go away
[15:13:25] stuartm: I can't follow Udo's ticket at all
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[15:35:45] kenni: stuartm: ok, I don't currently follow the backlog in here unless it's somehow related to me, so I didn't see that it was brought up earlier. I noticed the ticket as a user on mythtv-users was asking why the patches wasn't in 0.25-fixes yet – it turned out that he didn't knew that 0.26 was out.
[15:36:48] kenni: xris: Do you foresee any potential issues if we backport your partial PHP 5.4 fixes in #10504 to 0.25-fixes? I don't mind doing the cherrypicking, if you can ACK it.
[15:36:48] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10504 **
[15:37:18] kenni: It's two commits: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/cd670ec . . . eb9b0/mythtv and http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7232c54 . . . 6b55/mythweb
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[16:17:32] tgm4883: kenni, my bad on that, I saw the ticket was owned by kormoc, and since I didn't see him in here I didn't know who else to ping on it, so I just asked about that ticket generically
[16:17:42] tgm4883: you don't happen to be the same person are you?
[16:18:10] wagnerrp: no
[16:18:15] wagnerrp: !seen kormoc
[16:18:15] MythLogBot: kormoc was last seen 117 days 17 hours 5 minutes 50 seconds ago
[16:18:28] wagnerrp: well he's idle in the other channel
[16:18:33] tgm4883: wagnerrp, yea I know I've seen kormoc on here before.
[16:18:52] tgm4883: ah yea he is. I didn't think I saw him when I was asking
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[17:14:30] kenni: tgm4883: This page can be useful if you need to find the IRC name of a specific person: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WhosWho
[17:14:58] kenni: which reminds me...we should really kill some of those "MythTV developers" pages.
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[17:22:29] stuartm: is anyone here currently leveraging mythtv's use of the system hostname for any reason? e.g. to run two frontends from the same machine with different settings?
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[17:30:26] GreyFoxx: I do
[17:37:11] stichnot: stuartm: are you referring to the idea of removing the frontend custom identifier settings?
[17:37:17] stuartm: GreyFoxx: ok, I'm planning to have it always use the 'localhostname' defined in config.xml instead, with 'localhostname' set to the system hostname when you first go through setup
[17:38:10] stuartm: stichnot: more the other way around, having it not use the system hostname which might change breaking the per-host settings, storage groups et al
[17:38:55] stuartm: GreyFoxx: might be that you could instead specify MYTHCONFIGDIR instead of HOSTNAME
[17:39:03] stichnot: stuartm: that sounds very sensible
[17:39:15] GreyFoxx: That would work for me
[17:40:01] stuartm: GreyFoxx: ok, that's good – if it didn't work out then we'll figure out a solution
[17:40:36] stuartm: stichnot: yeah, it's so sensible that I can't think why we didn't do it earlier
[17:41:02] stuartm: I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop
[17:41:07] GreyFoxx: hehe
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[17:51:45] xavierh: stuartm: I do use two frontend on the same machine
[17:52:19] xavierh: So myth frontend remember the filtering of the recording , per user
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[18:35:17] kenni: does anyone know why mythbackend --version would print out the newest 0.26-fixes hash while specifying that the branch is "master"? According to the latest comment on #11270, that seems to be the case when MythTV gets compiled and installed with the help of the RPM-packaging script.
[18:35:17] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11270 **
[18:35:45] kenni: Or is it just the user who has been messing with the packaging script?
[18:41:39] wagnerrp: knowing udo, he's done something bad
[18:43:11] wagnerrp: mythbuildbot# ./mythfrontend --version
[18:43:11] wagnerrp: Please attach all output as a file in bug reports.
[18:43:11] wagnerrp: MythTV Version : v0.26.0-53-gb28041a
[18:43:11] wagnerrp: MythTV Branch : fixes/0.26
[18:43:19] wagnerrp: sounds like he's done something bad
[18:43:50] kenni: Likely, yeah. Especially when you read the messages on mythtv-users, in which he describes how he's overwriting MythBackend.php because it's "too old".
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[18:44:32] wagnerrp: udo has perpetually been the poster boy for "doing it wrong"
[18:44:34] kenni: wagnerrp: ok, thanks, that output is from a MythTV compiled with the RPM-script?
[18:44:51] wagnerrp: this is output from binaries built from source
[18:45:00] wagnerrp: specifically, the binaries off the freebsd build slave
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[19:20:15] stuartm: as wagnerrp said, Udo is one of those people who applies their own hacks and patches then complains very loudly when it breaks, all the while refusing to accept that his changes are in any way responsible
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[19:45:55] peper03: danielk22: Just seen ticket #11172 was fixed by your commit dcfdf0b (in case you hadn't seen the ticket)
[19:45:55] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11172 **
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[20:26:42] danielk22: peper03: thanks, I hadn't seen that.
[20:44:04] danielk22: kenni: It might be useful if you could extract a description of the 'error' wrt to #11115 from the cable co.
[20:44:04] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11115 **
[20:45:47] danielk22: kenni: If they set the encoder to a say "high profile" then it is simply outside the spec of what the HW decoder can do and we can detect this and use the SW decoder instead, same with bitrate and any other param.
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[21:16:51] kenni: danielk22: I have already asked the cable company about what the encoding error was, but I didn't get any useful answer. It was their "encoding provider" who debugged (and fixed?) the issue and I was communicating with a 1st or 2nd level supporter..
[21:18:08] kenni: danielk22: The HW decoder also works for the sample with mplayer. "mplayer -vc ffmpeg12vdpau"
[21:19:11] kenni: as I read the mplayer man-page as well as ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/vdpau/mplay . . . .README.txt, then -vo is the presenting part of VDPAU, while -vo is the optional decoding part.
[21:19:56] kenni: baa, should have been: "while -vc is the optional decoding part"
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[22:40:05] gigem: Does anyone have a preference for how fuzzy the "This time" and "This day and time" filters should be? These are the filters that will replace the Timeslot and Weekslot recording rule types. +/- 15 minutes is the max I think it should be.
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[22:56:27] admin_keylar: major issue regarding installation
[22:57:25] admin_keylar: C++ compiler fail even though it is installed
[22:57:39] admin_keylar: please consider fixing
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[23:01:44] skd5aner: yea... get on that guys... :P
[23:01:53] skd5aner: the admin said so
[23:02:30] skd5aner: gigem: how are you going to handle existing rules that are going away?
[23:14:16] danielk22: gigem: -5/+10 is the most I've ever seen outside of baseball season (which I don't think we can reasonably accommodate.)
[23:18:42] Sharky-Sleep is now known as Sharky112065
[23:29:01] gigem: skd5aner: A database update fixes everything up.
[23:30:33] gigem: danielk22: I think it's mainly the non-U.S. people that want/need it. I looked for examples in my guide data and found very few. Even the stuff that starts at odd times like HH:01 appears to consistently start at that time.
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