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| [00:19:08] | danielk22: | Hmm, the cppcheck warnings have gone way up for mythmusic. And at least some is stuff we already fixed before. :( |
| [00:21:39] | danielk22: | Hmmm, maybe not. Did we just stop ignoring mythmusic for cppcheck warning recently? |
| [00:22:51] | danielk22: | I recall now that we were ignoring some of these so as not to add difficulty to paul-h's mythmusic refactor. |
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| [04:03:54] | xris: | grumble.. mythweb still not quite right after recent changes… seems deleted shows are showing up in the "all/default" list. |
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| [10:53:40] | stuartm: | danielk22: I'm not sure what changed there, there were no changes to the suppressions and the version of cppcheck hasn't changed |
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| [13:16:30] | stuartm: | stichnot: so, noticeably faster for you too? |
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| [14:35:38] | stichnot: | stuartm, danielk22: I wasn't actually able to test the seek improvement change. When I got home, the backend was having problems with remote connections, e.g. with mythfrontend loading the Watch Recordings screen. |
| [14:36:16] | stichnot: | Backend log messages like "ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:148 (run) – Processing request for sock 105" / "ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:452 (ProcessRequest) – No data on sock 105" |
| [14:37:50] | stichnot: | I had to do emergency surgery since this is the home production system. |
| [14:39:09] | stichnot: | I rolled back to fc89b36c0fd879f850a1b7077cceb33177318f9a (pre mythsocket branch merge) and the problem went away. |
| [14:39:34] | stichnot: | I'll try doing a git bisect later today. |
| [14:49:32] | danielk22: | stichnot: I don't think a bisect will be useful. Some -v network,socket --loglevel debug logs of the frontend and backend would. |
| [14:52:39] | danielk22: | The "No data on sock " message means that we got a readyRead callback, which means there is data. Then when a bit later when we tried to read the data it wasn't there. That should only happen if the socket disconnected in between those two events. |
| [14:56:48] | stuarta: | or somebody else stole it |
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| [14:59:06] | danielk22: | That's possible, but then I wouldn't expect any bad behavior, since all the requests sent to the MainServer get the same processing.. |
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| [15:00:09] | danielk22: | Hmmm, I guess if two threads ran sock->ReadStringList(listline) at the same time in MainServer::ProcessRequestWork() that would be very bad... |
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| [15:07:31] | stichnot: | danielk22: I'll try to reproduce it later today with frontend and backend logs and a backend stacktrace (in case there actually is a deadlock) |
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| [16:48:16] | stichnot: | danielk22: quick thought — I'm still running Qt 4.6.2, with a small patch to NAMThread::isAvailable() to make it compile. Any chance that would cause problems with the new socket code? |
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| [17:03:14] | MythBuild: | build #4150 of master-linux-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed configure core compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4150 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org > |
| [17:03:37] | MythBuild: | build #3193 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed configure core compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3193 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org > |
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| [17:14:41] | stuartm: | pfft |
| [17:17:49] | stuartm: | ok, both are running 4.7 |
| [17:20:08] | stuartm: | given our official stance is 4.8 do we want to stick with that and have the buildbots updated ASAP, or set a minimum of 4.7 in configure until someone actually uses a 4.8 only feature? |
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| [17:27:24] | danielk22: | stuartm: 4.8 has some nice features on the networking side for IPTV... |
| [17:27:47] | danielk22: | multicast is supported in the API. |
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| [17:30:13] | stuartm: | danielk22: yeah, I'm not suggesting that we go with 4.7 for the release, just having configure look for 4.7 until we actually require 4.8, I'm assuming that Beirdo and wagnerrp won't have their machines updated immediately so that would give them a few days or weeks to sort it out |
| [17:30:56] | danielk22: | Beirdo: wagnerrp: Is updating the Qt going to be a pain on those boxes? |
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| [17:43:04] | stuartm: | stichnot: I expect danielk22 did most of his testing on at least 4.7, but behaviour is unlikely to have changed between 4.6 and 4.7, so if 4.6 does behave differently it would most likely be a QT bug that was fixed in 4.7 |
| [17:43:51] | stuartm: | stichnot: or in other words, it's difficult to answer that question, upgrading to 4.7 would be the only way to find out |
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| [17:48:29] | danielk22: | stichnot: I've done my testing on Qt 4.8.x systems, but it really shouldn't depend on that so long as all the MythSocket parts compile without modification. |
| [17:48:49] | stichnot: | danielk22: http://pastebin.com/kczb0WAX is the backend log. I didn't try running the frontend yet, but the same behavior and log messages show up from the mythweb backend status page, which runs the custom myth_recent_recordings.pl script. |
| [17:49:30] | stichnot: | I mean, the messages show up in the backend log when I try to load the mythweb backend status page |
| [17:49:56] | stichnot: | There are some interesting multicast related error messages in the log |
| [17:50:28] | stichnot: | Mythweb just fails to load Upcoming Recordings or Recorded Programs. |
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| [17:54:11] | danielk22: | stichnot: There is a shortcut in MythSocket::IsDataAvailable() that returns false without using invokeMethod(). It is the second if statement in the method, can you try commenting that out? |
| [17:55:39] | stichnot: | ok, looking now... |
| [17:57:19] | danielk22: | stichnot: AFAIK the socket code should work as far back as Qt 4.3 |
| [18:01:18] | stichnot: | danielk22: seems to be the same behavior with "if (m_dataAvailable.testAndSetOrdered(0,0)) return false;" removed |
| [18:01:40] | stichnot: | should I get some frontend logs? |
| [18:02:06] | danielk22: | Yeah, I want to see when data is sent & when we see the ready read.. |
| [18:02:18] | stichnot: | ok |
| [18:02:44] | stichnot: | I'll keep that IsDataAvailable() change unless you say otherwise |
| [18:03:19] | danielk22: | It won't do any harm, that is just an optimization and shouldn't have any effect on functionality. |
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| [18:07:25] | dekarl: | danielk22: is rtp://host:even-port an URL that works with the iptvrecorder? (new or old) I'm about to suggest Radhika on the dev list to replace udp:// with rtp:// in his playlist (prefering rtsp if available) |
| [18:09:37] | danielk22: | dekarl: 1/ rtp should work, unless I missed something in the merge. 2/ Radhika is a woman. 3/ I'm less sure on rtsp. |
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| [18:20:48] | stichnot: | danielk22: backend log http://pastebin.com/V4Ez8bqp , frontend log http://pastebin.com/mSbemX5q . The frontend does not respond to the network control interface. I suspect that if I were in front of the TV, the UI would be responsive until I try to select something. |
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| [18:26:24] | danielk22: | stichnot: there is no debugging from sockets in the backend log, and very little in the frontend. :[ |
| [18:26:57] | danielk22: | I think this will need to wait until you can sit in front of the frontend and make it do something.. |
| [18:28:18] | stichnot: | Maybe I can do something remotely with lirc |
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| [19:14:15] | stichnot: | danielk22: I tried running the frontend with X tunneled over ssh, and I get pretty much the same frontend log. At this point, I think I'll try downloading the Qt4.8 libraries and see if that changes anything. |
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| [19:43:01] | danielk22: | stichnot: Try the latest master.. You didn't get the error messages that yiannis did in #11256, but he is also using Qt 4.7.x |
| [19:43:01] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11256 ** | |
| [19:44:09] | danielk22: | You'll need to temporarily disable the Qt4.8 check added this morning in 9d670ef4. |
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| [19:54:37] | stichnot: | danielk22: That did the trick. Thanks! |
| [19:55:15] | stichnot: | in the meantime, it's probably good that I started installing qt4.8... |
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| [21:01:02] | danielk22: | stuartm: Based on the feedback from Yianni it may be that we're already at the point where we can compile but not run with Qt 4.7.x. |
| [21:07:38] | stuartm: | yeah, a little surprised by that, but it's in no way a problem since we'd already committed to 4.8 before now |
| [21:07:52] | stuartm: | the build bots will just have to stay broken for now |
| [21:08:55] | danielk22: | I'm looking forward to Qt 5 already. We'll be able to use QTimers again! :) |
| [21:09:31] | stichnot: | They finally fixed that bug? Sweet! |
| [21:10:05] | stuartm: | danielk22: disappointed they haven't backported the fix |
| [21:10:34] | danielk22: | heh, umm no. I fixed it ;] |
| [21:10:36] | stuartm: | then again, I suppose we should be grateful that QT development has continued under Nokia |
| [21:11:37] | stichnot: | danielk22: I meant that they finally incorporated your fix :) |
| [21:11:54] | danielk22: | :) |
| [21:12:09] | stuartm: | not sure I understand the direction they are taking with QT5, but as long as the stuff we rely upon remains ... :) |
| [21:13:32] | danielk22: | stuartm: The Qt renderer will be a second class citizen. But it is already slow under Qt 4.8.x so 5 won't make a big difference. |
| [21:17:30] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: did you ever take a look at LVR's patch to support remote encrypted DVD isos? We never did come up with our own fix for that and I'm now wondering if any solution is better than none at all |
| [21:20:34] | danielk22: | The Qt5 direction is basically to specify how the screen should look rather than how to render it using a declarative language (XML) rather than an imperative one (C++). This allows it to be rendered more efficiently when using OpenGL. |
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| [21:21:45] | stuartm: | sounds vaguely familiar :) |
| [21:23:15] | danielk22: | :) |
| [21:25:17] | stuartm: | not that I'm drawing any comparisons, it's going to be entirely different if they are promising greater efficiency for opengl, what that seems to suggest is that a different interpreter is used for each renderer |
| [21:27:44] | danielk22: | I'm thinking it is something like gcc where there is a shared frontend and optimizer and then a CPU specific code generator. But I haven't looked at the code, I've only watched some of the presentations. |
| [21:28:37] | danielk22: | Instead of CPU specific code generator there would obviously be a rendering pipeline specific code generator.. |
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| [21:30:59] | stichnot: | danielk22: I'm all set up with qt4.8 now. FWIW, I still see backend --loglevel debug log messages like " mmulticastsocketdevice.cpp:86 (~MMulticastSocketDevice) – MMulticastSocketDevice(239.255.255.250:91): setsockopt – IP_DROP_MEMBERSHIP / eno: Invalid argument (22)" |
| [21:35:10] | danielk22: | stichnot: those have always been there at log level debug. |
| [21:35:20] | stichnot: | ok, cool. |
| [21:35:43] | danielk22: | It's ok since the membership will be dropped a few seconds later when the socket is closed. |
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| [22:00:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, I glanced at that DVD patch way back when, but don't remember much about it. I was thinking someone else was looking into it, but can't remember for sure. I'm all for a solution. 'cept now I have to spend my time upgrading my dev system to something that has Qt 4.8.x though. :) not gonna find that for my CentOS 5.x dev box probably. That's OK, been looking for an excuse to upgrade/rebuild my wife's old desktop w |
| [22:00:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | hich has my dev nfsroot VM on it since she has a new laptop. will just turn that box into my new dev machine with a SSD instead of developing over nfsroot in a VM since it was previously the fastest machine in the house. |
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| [22:04:47] | danielk22: | Anyone know of open tickets on back-to-back recordings? |
| [22:05:52] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: I think it's available for CentOS 6 |
| [22:07:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, hmm, thanks, will have to check that. was debating that or latest Fedora mainly to keep things consistent around the house. |
| [22:08:13] | stuartm: | might be an unofficial repo though, not too familiar with CentOS |
| [22:08:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, I don't know of any tickets but have seen issues mentioned lately I think on -users. |
| [22:09:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, yeah, my Qt 4.7.4 on CentOS 5 came from a 3rd party site. |
| [22:09:31] | stuartm: | Fedora would obviously have much more current packages of everything and wouldn't be immediately obsolete, I highly doubt it would be noticeably less stable either |
| [22:10:38] | stuartm: | http://pkgs.org/centos-6-rhel-6/russian-fedor . . . 686.rpm.html |
| [22:10:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | running F17 on frontends now, so may just go with that. |
| [22:11:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | thanks, I've browsed around their list recently for something else I think. |
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| [22:13:45] | stichnot: | Captain_Murdoch: I'm taking danielk22's advice and building Qt4.8 locally. I configure with "-prefix /foo" and then make sure /foo/bin is at the front of PATH and /foo/lib is at the front of LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| [22:14:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, do you have any plans or patches in the works dealing with jump point handlling? I think I tracked down the issue with the Theme Chooser requiring you to install twice to a race condition between closing the busy popup and the 'reload theme' jump point being handled and didn't want to start pursuing a solution if there was other work being done in that area. |
| [22:14:45] | stuartm: | ouch, you wouldn't catch me building Qt, I hear it takes forever |
| [22:15:43] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: I had a plan to do something a while ago, I can't actually remember what that plan involved atm :) |
| [22:16:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | stichnot, yeah, that's an option but I'd prefer to stay away from it, besides I need to get off this CentOS 5.x nfsroot VM anyway, it was a temp solution I didn't think would last this long, but my main desktop has been off 99.999% of the time the past two years since my wife got the fastest machine in the house and then we had the move. it's still in a box in the garage actually. |
| [22:16:58] | ** Captain_Murdoch needs to shop around for SSDs. ** | |
| [22:17:55] | stichnot: | sure, if Qt is just the tipping point for something that's been put off, then all the better :) |
| [22:20:16] | stichnot: | btw, I spent hundreds of dollars on a very well regarded SSD, thinking it would speed up mythtv builds. There was zero measurable difference. :( |
| [22:20:28] | gigem: | sphery: (or anyone else) I'm about to push the recording rule type pr |
| [22:20:31] | gigem: | iority removal change. With this change, the programrecpriority screen adds vir |
| [22:20:33] | gigem: | tually no value over the managerecrules screen. Does anyone have a problem with |
| [22:20:35] | gigem: | removing the programrecpriority screen too? |
| [22:21:01] | gigem: | Sorry for the poor formatting. I chose the wrong paste option. |
| [22:21:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | stichnot, yeah, I just want a 40–60 for my source tree |
| [22:21:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | and home dir for ~/.ccache |
| [22:21:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | or just put that in the src tree |
| [22:22:21] | danielk22: | Captain_Murdoch: I found putting ~/ on the SSD helps with other programs like firefox.. |
| [22:22:36] | stichnot: | stuartm: not sure the Qt build is so much worse than the myth build... |
| [22:24:05] | stuartm: | gigem: I'd welcome less duplication/clutter, there are a lot of scheduling related screens (menu items), but I guess my thoughts on this subject are widely known already :) |
| [22:24:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, yeah, and ~/Mail for me probably. |
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| [22:24:35] | stuartm: | stichnot: I _have_ to build myth :) |
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| [22:25:09] | stichnot: | stuartm: I could be mistaken. I probably let the first build run over lunch |
| [22:25:39] | stichnot: | this second build (after fixing fontconfig support) does seem to be taking its sweet time... |
| [22:27:05] | stuartm: | for me the main benefit of an SSD for / and ~/ was even less noise from the machine |
| [22:27:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | gigem, I'm fine with minimizing the # of ways to accomplish the same task. we could create keybindings for bumping up/down the priority of the curent item if we don't have something like that already. that's the main benefit of the other screen if I recall correctly. |
| [22:27:43] | stuartm: | I opted for a branded but cheap small SSD |
| [22:29:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, yeah, less noise was why I went diskless on my FE's initially. SSDs are cheap enough now to have me looking that direction. |
| [22:29:50] | stichnot: | Captain_Murdoch: I've been trying to collect jump point issues in #10407. I was waiting on the setup screens to be converted to MythUI before taking any real action. |
| [22:29:50] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10407 ** | |
| [22:30:39] | stichnot: | Guest28648: who are you and what have you done with mythlogbot??? |
| [22:30:43] | skd5aner: | I'm still running a laptop HD in my FE from 2007 |
| [22:30:55] | skd5aner: | Still going strong |
| [22:31:28] | skd5aner: | and whisper quiet comparatively – of course, SSDs were an arm and a leg back then |
| [22:31:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | stichnot, ok, I'll read it over and maybe add a note. I'd need to reinvestigate the issue I was seeing, can't recall the details from a few months ago. I remember being happy to be able to finally reproduce the issue at the time because I could never reproduce it prior. |
| [22:32:15] | gigem: | stuartm: :) Captain_Murdoch: There are already bindings in both screens(*) for that. (*)Actually, both screens are implemented by the same code. The only real difference is they load different XML to allow different screen layout. As stated earlier, with the feature removal, the "programrecpriority" layout adds no value. |
| [22:32:40] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, then delete away.... |
| [22:32:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | IMHO |
| [22:33:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | makes themers lives easier as well |
| [22:34:14] | gigem: | Okay. I'll make the change, but will wait until later to push in case anyone else wants to chime in. |
| [22:36:00] | stichnot: | ok, building qt is like building mythtv, but only if I build mythtv with "-j1" on my laptop machine... |
| [22:36:12] | gigem: | danielk22: The only back-to-back related ticket I remember is #10685, but you fixed it some time ago. |
| [22:36:12] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10685 ** | |
| [22:47:13] | stuartm: | danielk22: is this a specific back to back recording issue, or just anything related to back to back recordings? I've a nagging feeling the subject came up not too long ago but I cannot remember if it was a ticket, or on the mailing list |
| [22:50:39] | stuartm: | a quick search shows http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11049 which might be what I was thinking of |
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| [23:30:20] | sphery: | gigem: only reason I added the recording rules screen versus changing the recording priorities screen was because of BJM |
| [23:31:29] | sphery: | the 2 are basically the exact same screen (same possibilities on both)--but cause themers 2x the work (for no real gain) |
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| [23:33:18] | sphery: | probably makes sense to do as you suggested, though, and remove the programrecpriority screen (as its name is far less generic/implies a purpose which won't suit all) |
| [23:37:02] | jpabq: | stuartm adding inheritance saved me there. In Steppes those two screen *ARE* identical. |
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| [23:58:52] | danielk22: | stuartm: gigem: Yeah, those two are fixed. I am seeing a second of three back to back recordings containing data from the third and the third not containing any data. |
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