| Friday, November 9th, 2012, 00:24 UTC | ||
| [00:24:32] | stuartm: | ok, apparently I've had my head in the sand for the last few weeks and missed the fact that apparently there are numerous playback regressions in 0.26 (haven't experienced them myself) and most of them seem to have been caused by the ffmpeg resync? |
| [00:27:14] | stuartm: | if the extent of these problems is accurate, and those who did those syncs aren't prepared to follow up, do we consider reverting the changes? Without being overly dramatic, I'm getting the impression from others that 0.26 is seriously tanking goodwill |
| [00:27:20] | stuartm: | with users |
| [00:31:07] | danielk22: | stuartm: Yeah, if jya and bierdo are both unavailable we may need to consider reverting. But I'd like to get samples and reproduce the problems first. |
| [00:31:37] | danielk22: | Do you have some ticket # I can look at? |
| [00:32:03] | danielk22: | BTW We should start automatically running the ffmpeg regression tests and add our own if possible. |
| [00:32:16] | danielk22: | (i.e. do we need some samples we don't have? ) |
| [00:32:18] | stuartm: | wagnerrp, skd5aner: ^^ |
| [00:33:31] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I sent you one sample several weeks ago, to your dropbox |
| [00:34:03] | wagnerrp: | ive never had problems with playback |
| [00:34:10] | wagnerrp: | ive only seen issues during livetv |
| [00:34:41] | skd5aner: | I can't seek backwards in a large percentage of my recordings without serious lag and response... not sure if I mentioned that in the other channel |
| [00:35:14] | skd5aner: | I can push skip back, 5 seconds, and it'll take ~2–3 seconds to even respond |
| [00:35:20] | stuartm: | skd5aner: heh, I remember, although at the time it was so other devs could look at it |
| [00:35:51] | skd5aner: | yea, taylorr and someone else took a good look at it for me right away, I appreciated their efforts for triaging on-the-fly with me |
| [00:36:57] | skd5aner: | oh, and jpabq |
| [00:38:18] | stuartm: | I've always been happy for others to work on the playback side, and though I'll look at it if I have to, it would take a few days just to get it all figured out before I could even start thinking about a fix |
| [00:40:19] | stuartm: | there is an awful lot of code involved in decoding/playback, deciding where the problem lies can take a while |
| [00:42:53] | skd5aner: | Yea, I understand it takes a specialty and a knowledge of the existing code... |
| [00:43:45] | skd5aner: | but, obviously, it's the bread and butter of why mythtv exists in the first place... if I can't play back a recording, I have no need for the worlds best scheduler, commflagging, time-stretch, etc... |
| [00:44:54] | stuartm: | it's unfortunate that everyone with that knowledge and those who worked on the ffmpeg resyncs have been unable to give any time to MythTV since the release |
| [00:47:17] | skd5aner: | lets hope they all get snowed in all winter and can't leave their houses ;-) |
| [00:49:03] | skd5aner: | one other unofficial IRC bug report for you guys... |
| [00:49:40] | skd5aner: | I've noticed the progress bar on some of my recordings doesn't reflect the actual "time" it's been playing back |
| [00:50:03] | skd5aner: | some of my new recordings will actually be done with 10 or more minutes left on the progress bar |
| [00:50:22] | skd5aner: | Not sure if that's been reported or not... |
| [00:51:38] | skd5aner: | I've not seen that specific time code issue prior to 0.26, although in the past I've seen a variety of other time code issues |
| [01:07:45] | skd5aner: | danielk22: you can look at #11159, selfishly – that's mine... and stuartm has a sample available he can share with you |
| [01:07:45] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11159 ** | |
| [01:10:18] | stuartm: | danielk22: https://www.box.com/files/0/f/428372080/1/f_3491192638 |
| [01:24:39] | stuartm: | skd5aner: I'll _try_ to look at some of the other outstanding issues in the next few days |
| [01:28:57] | skd5aner: | stuartm: I appreciate it, I do... ping me if I can provide any assistance :) |
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| [14:28:29] | skd5aner: | I'm thinking about submitting a ticket about LiveTV never launching and hanging the frontend, which verbose options would you like for the logs? |
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| [14:49:40] | danielk22: | skd5aner: -v record,channel,siparser,network for both frontend and backend. |
| [14:49:55] | skd5aner: | danielk22: thanks, that makes it easier :) |
| [14:50:18] | danielk22: | skd5aner: I've seen it myself, but then when I try to reproduce it works perfectly :\ |
| [14:50:57] | skd5aner: | yea, I hear you... sometimes it's the same for me as well |
| [14:51:15] | skd5aner: | but I've foudn that it's bombing out about 90% of the time this morning, figuered I'd get it while I can |
| [14:51:41] | skd5aner: | Sometimes it'll play the first few frames of video, most times it won't... either way, frontend hangs |
| [14:51:53] | skd5aner: | danielk22: should I do anythign with gdb? |
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| [14:53:21] | danielk22: | skd5aner: If you can grab a backtrace while it's in this state I'm sure it would be useful. If you can get cores to that would be good, if necessary I can then ask you to look at some variables in those. |
| [14:53:57] | skd5aner: | danielk22: I'm not familiar with cores? |
| [14:54:05] | danielk22: | skd5aner: You'll need to be quick, and probably attach rather than run in gdb, since gdb will change the timing and probably make it work. |
| [14:54:08] | skd5aner: | can you point me in the right direction? |
| [14:54:24] | skd5aner: | ok, I think I can do that... |
| [14:54:28] | skd5aner: | I've done that part before |
| [14:54:35] | skd5aner: | in fact, I think I wrote it up on the wiki |
| [14:54:43] | danielk22: | skd5aner: It's just a dump of the memory. generate-core-file |
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| [14:56:25] | danielk22: | So as soon as you are sure it's in the state run "gdb `which mythfrontend` `pidof mythfrontend`" in one terminal and the same for the backend in another terminal. Then generate the backtraces "thread apply all bt" and then "generate-core-file" for both. |
| [14:56:52] | danielk22: | Attach the backtraces to a ticket, but just hold on to the cores in case they are needed. |
| [14:57:29] | danielk22: | Probably I'll be able to determine the state from the logs, but if I'm unsure I'll tell you what commands to run in gdb on the core. |
| [14:57:56] | skd5aner: | k, will do, thanks |
| [14:58:19] | danielk22: | oh, you'll need to run those gdb commands as root, you probably won't have permission to attach otherwise. |
| [14:58:26] | skd5aner: | yea, np |
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| [15:04:04] | skd5aner: | danielk22: actually, I don't think I've ever had to run as root for gdb before, but I'll see if it works without first |
| [15:08:21] | danielk22: | Sure, it might be a distro thing. I didn't used to have to run as root to attach until a couple years ago. |
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| [15:29:54] | skd5aner: | danielk22: ok, I finally got it, no core dumps though :/ This time, it'd launch Live TV, play for 2 seconds, mfe hangs, and about a minute later crashes |
| [15:30:05] | skd5aner: | got a backtrack of frotnend and backend during the hang |
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| [15:47:36] | skd5aner: | anyone able to delete an attachment from a ticket for me? |
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| [15:48:03] | skd5aner: | danielk22: #11229... hope it helps |
| [15:48:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11229 ** | |
| [15:48:16] | skd5aner: | it was acting a little differently than it was... |
| [15:48:24] | skd5aner: | but, still hung then crash |
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| [16:17:06] | stuartm: | mythfrontend is back to requiring X just to query verbose args, we keeping fixing that only for it to be broken again a few weeks/months later |
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| [16:24:24] | wagnerrp: | does mythtv require X? or does QApplication require X? |
| [16:24:54] | wagnerrp: | we intentionally hold off on processing the variables, since QApplication needs to be run before unicode stuff works properly |
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| [16:37:37] | stuartm: | QApp requires X, QCoreApp doesn't |
| [16:39:11] | stuartm: | really we only need --help and -v help to work without X, since everything else definitely requires it |
| [16:40:38] | stuartm: | actually seems --help works without X, so it's just -v help |
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