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Tuesday, October 30th, 2012, 00:02 UTC
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[09:02:25] stuarta: morning all
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[11:06:12] stuartm: wagnerrp: thanks for that mythsystem/idle timer fix
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[15:40:02] tgm4883: Thanks to whoever updated the smolt page. It's much easier to look at data now
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[16:02:34] jams: tgm4883- your welcome..and it is easier to read
[16:04:28] jams: figured you would like the OS page
[16:04:37] wagnerrp: i like how the standard deviation on recording count is 4x the average
[16:05:14] wagnerrp: 59k recordings... that can't possibly be correct can it?
[16:05:21] jams: yeah i'm working on removing outliers :)
[16:10:31] stuartm: what was the url again?
[16:10:48] wagnerrp: http://smolt.mythtv.org
[16:10:55] jams: it's possible i suppose but thats one of those values i question..there were a couple others that seemed odd
[16:11:03] stuartm: doh, that should be easy to remember
[16:11:35] stuartm: even if it's possible, it's way outside the norm and should be discounted for that reason alone
[16:13:28] stuartm: hmm, I'd like to see less people on 0.25.2 and more on 0.25.3
[16:14:01] stuartm: 20% on stock 0.25 isn't good either
[16:14:23] stuartm: maybe I should write an update prompter
[16:15:18] jams: certainly for std deviation it should not be counted. Right now those values are calculated with mysql functions, but i plan on moving them to something where the outliers are dismissed.
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[16:37:25] stuarta: stuartm: wouldn't that overlap with the prompting from the package management system of <modern_distro>
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[17:08:55] stuartm: yes, and no, ubuntu doesn't prompt because they don't push updates to the official repos
[17:09:06] stuartm: and there are enough users building from source it seems
[17:09:35] stuartm: if users were being nagged I'd expect to see more of them running 0.25.3+ instead of 0.25.0 or 0.25.2
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[17:31:56] wagnerrp: jams: ever figure out what was causing those HTTP/500 errors?
[17:36:09] jams: yes i did. There was a problem with inserting stuff into the audio db table.
[17:36:20] jams: corrected that and i think the 500's went away
[17:36:28] jams: at least a large chunk of them
[17:36:47] wagnerrp: be interesting to see if the number of active hosts balloons
[17:37:25] jams: it has been increasing more then the total hosts
[17:39:16] jams: I also have a rudimentry archive table for specific stats. Now I'm working on how to graph it
[17:39:54] jams: so graphs end up being worthless because of all the datapoints
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[18:17:14] dekarl: I don't know why everybody complains about the channel scanner... after all there's a dedicated website for UK Freeview customers with channel scanning guides for all manufacturers, so its an issue with them, too (They're not collecting guides and publishing a website because they're bored, right?) http://tvretune.co.uk/
[18:17:36] dekarl: maybe we can publish a "how easy its with mythtv" guide over there, too ^^
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[18:35:23] stuartm: dekarl: right, some STBs make it difficult or hide the option in a really weird place, I spent 20 minutes trying to rescan my cousin's STB a while back, 19 minutes just trying to figure out where they were hiding the scan dialog in the very simple menu system
[18:36:04] stuartm: of course it was the last place I looked, under the least descriptive heading
[18:36:19] stuartm: but that doesn't mean we can do better than we are right now
[18:36:27] stuartm: s/can/can't/
[18:36:46] dekarl: sure, I'm all for silent background scans, to :)
[18:37:43] dekarl: i was just surprised to see an "official" website dedicated to the channel scan
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[18:38:48] dekarl: btw, do you know if we parse the LCN? Or what the mpeg service on COM6 is?
[18:47:57] stuartm: we parse the LCN and no, I don't know
[18:50:12] stuartm: that's Norsat COM6? Seems like a satellite TV service for ships
[18:50:48] stuartm: and IP
[18:51:07] dekarl: hmm, the freeview mux arqb/com6
[18:51:49] dekarl: good, I couldn't find the place where we parse the LCN the other day...
[18:53:31] dekarl: Was looking around the web after reading on our users list that Nick didn't know either. Maybe dvbsnoop will shed some light on it
[18:54:11] stuartm: dekarl: ah heh, yeah, no idea about that either
[18:54:48] stuartm: dekarl: I forgot we now had a COM6, they renamed them a while back
[18:55:34] stuartm: I ignore the mpeg only services when scanning, since at least for Satellite they are usually junk or bogus
[18:59:33] dekarl: stuartm, I'll just suggest looking at PAT/PMT/SDT with dvbsnoop.
[19:02:09] stuartm: my guess is that it has something to do with Channel Zero, http://www.ch-zero.tv/ but I'll go snooping later
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[19:15:04] stuartm: dekarl: who was asking in the first place?
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[20:44:21] dekarl: stuartm: sorry, was away http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /342177.html
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