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[12:06:55] Tobbe5178: if i open audio settings on the frontend and try to navigate to the audio settings box the frontend segfaults
[12:12:14] stuartm: See http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/http://svn.m . . . /TicketHowTo and http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2
[12:14:22] stuarta: we love backtraces
[12:14:31] Tobbe5178: ok, good :)
[12:14:49] Tobbe5178: i'll recompile with debug and see if i can get a backtrace
[12:15:16] Tobbe5178: there was other places in the config that caused crashes too and the good thing was that i could easily reproduce the crash
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[12:23:18] Tobbe5178: i think the debug howto section may need some updating, isnt the option -l removed now?
[12:29:11] stuartm: Captain_Murdoch: any objection if I grab/apply http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8852 ?
[13:00:28] Tobbe5178: i have created a new bug report with the info about the crash including the backtrace and logfile, it is in ticket #11153
[13:00:28] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11153 **
[13:17:15] stuartm: Tobbe5178: thank you
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[16:44:11] MythBuild: build #4304 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4304 blamelist: Lawrence Rust <lvr@softsystem.co.uk >
[16:47:07] stuartm: merde, easiest solution would be to bump the min QT version to 4.7 but I can work around it if not
[16:47:29] stuartm: does anyone know what Ubuntu/Fedora are shipping now>?
[16:52:06] MythBuild: build #2755 of master-debian-stable-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2755 blamelist: Lawrence Rust <lvr@softsystem.co.uk >
[16:52:55] Tobbe5178: my fc17 box have: qt-4.8.2–4.fc17
[16:53:21] stuartm: thanks, it should be around that already, 4.7 is over two years old
[16:58:09] stuartm: looks like I might have to fight Debian users though, they are stuck in 2009
[16:59:40] stuartm: although the next Debian release looks due this month and provides 4.8
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[17:08:35] stuartm: so it's just Debian and the Beirdo's bot which looks to be running a really old Ubuntu
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[18:23:50] stuartm: we need a Patch Committing Party, work through the backlog of patches in Trac while we're still early enough in the cycle
[18:52:58] stuartm: Any HD-PVR using devs want to express an opinion about http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9457#comment:6 ?
[18:53:15] stuartm: the bit about dropping recording profiles specifically
[19:58:15] stuartm: wagnerrp: in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11154 I think he's implying that mythsystem (or whatever) is no longer handling arguments in command strings correctly
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[20:02:31] wagnerrp: that's not any sort of change mythsystem has done
[20:03:15] wagnerrp: libs/libmythtv/channelbase.cpp:786... it just takes the command given by the user, tacks on the frequency ID, and runs it
[20:03:36] wagnerrp: if that didn't work, there's a whole slew of other stuff that wouldn't work either
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[20:13:31] stuartm: yeah I appreciate that, I'm just trying to understand what the user is saying there, I wasn't coming to the same conclusion as you that script itself was the problem but he's not been specific enough when he says "Any switches added to the script break the input"
[20:14:23] stuartm: tgm4883: is that directtv.pl coming from your packages?
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[20:17:11] stuartm: doesn't seem that the script itself has changed in a couple of years – http://www.pdp8.net/directv/directv.shtml
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[20:31:46] jpabq: stuartm, I use two recording profiles with my HD-PVR. VBR (default) in general, and CBR (High quality) for sports. With the HD-PVR, the difference in file size is about double between max bit-rate VBR and max bit-rate CBR. I do agree that there is no reason to support user-names profiles.
[20:33:01] stuartm: shame, I was getting excited at the prospect of removing the profiles stuff (it's a horrible mess)
[20:34:53] jpabq: If I had to, I could live with just using max bit-rate VBR. I honestly have not tested doing that — to see if there are any noticeable artifacts.
[20:35:53] jpabq: The thing is, that if we got rid of the profiles, what would we keep? Personally, I would choose max bit-rate VBR, but someone else might want everything recorded in CBR...
[20:40:47] stuartm: theoretically there shouldn't be a noticable difference, but we'd either opt for the best quality of the two OR make the encoding bitrate a per-device setting under the Options sub-screen of card setup, it's not so much the ability to choose a rate that's the problem as the code/config screens necessary to allow users to set different profiles and assign them to schedules
[20:45:16] stuartm: at the risk of saying it once too often, the profile code from the schema through the UI is full of design issues and the code is a mess – it's a constant source of tickets e.g. until relatively recently you couldn't even delete a user created profile and now it turns out that although you can create user profiles they can't actually be used
[20:47:41] stuartm: to me it seems half-baked and never finished – the UI is integrated with the data model, you can't use recording profiles in the backend without invoking UI code, which is just stupid and it means pulling UI code/libs into libmythtv
[20:48:58] stuartm: it's leaked memory for years, in small amounts sure, but because it's such a mess and fixing the leak means a re-write no-one has wanted to bother with it
[20:57:32] stuartm: as this ticket attests, I did start at one time to try and fix some of the issues with that code – http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8778
[20:58:39] stuartm: the recording profile code still slows down channel changes by a measurable amount, although it's a little better than it was
[21:02:28] Beirdo: stuartm: I can upgrade if need be :)
[21:02:37] Beirdo: 4.7.2 is fricking old now
[21:02:51] stuartm: Beirdo: indeed
[21:03:14] Beirdo: I think if we abandon 10.04, not many people would bitterly complain
[21:03:28] Beirdo: and they can always forklift in newer Qt
[21:03:53] stuartm: Beirdo: moving the min version to 4.7 would obviously be easier and preferable to me having to implement our own versions of the methods the iplayer patch uses in QNetworkManger
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[21:06:47] Beirdo: yeah, I thought our min was 4.7 now, still 4.6?
[21:06:55] Beirdo: heh, Oh.
[21:06:59] Beirdo: I have 4.6.2
[21:07:19] Beirdo: duh. That's so old, it's losing inches of height daily
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[21:30:55] stuartm: Beirdo: still 4.6, hasn't changed since May last year I think
[21:48:21] jams: of the ppl sending in data only ~40 use QT 4.6.x
[21:48:31] jams: most are 4.8
[21:52:57] Beirdo: yeah, most are likely using 12.04
[21:53:34] jams: they are
[21:53:41] jams: it's the #1 os !
[21:53:41] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 **
[21:53:47] jams: heh
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[22:58:57] tgm4883: stuartm, I don't think so
[22:59:35] tgm4883: stuartm, you can do 'dpkg -S /path/to/file' to see what package a file comes from
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[23:40:11] stuartm: kenni: what was the reason for unsetting the milestone on http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10995  ?

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