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[01:24:00] | neufeld: | stuartm: well, in tests, the patch has a downside. I now either always get the complete recording, or it doesn't start at all and I get none of it. So, I continue to play around with it. Thanks, though. |
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[03:11:50] | knightr: | stuartm, Thank you! Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I am currently at my parents' house with limited Internet access... |
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[05:17:26] | jpabq: | neufeld, I would be tempted to check/replace all of your relevant cables. If that doesn't help, then maybe the HD-PVR transformer is marginal — or maybe the HD-PVR itself is marginal. |
[05:17:51] | jpabq: | neufeld, software wise — instead of eliminating the poll, maybe just extend it's timeout from 2.5 seconds to 25 seconds? |
[05:19:46] | jpabq: | neufeld, how long is the sleep at the end of your channel change script? What are you using to change channels? Your channel change script is not running in the "background", is it? |
[05:24:42] | jpabq: | neufeld, after then channel change script returns, Myth asks the HD-PVR what video resolution it is seeing. After a STB is told to change channels, it can take a few seconds before the STB produces stable video. Myth monitors the reported video resolution, and wont actually start recording until the HD-PVR reports a consistent video resolution for 2 seconds. If the HD-PVR is told to "start encoding" when the input is not "settled" that can cause t |
[05:24:42] | jpabq: | he read/poll to fail. |
[05:27:06] | jpabq: | neufeld, Maybe your STB is producing a "stable" video resolution for 2 seconds, but it is not *really* stable yet. Another parameter you could try playing with is m_stable_time in libs/libmythtv/analogsignalmonitor.cpp |
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[11:45:03] | neufeld: | jpabq: Yeah, I am starting to suspect it's the HD-PVR hardware itself, which would be annoying because it's certainly not under warranty, I bought it years ago as insurance against it being legislated out of existence, but only opened the plastic wrap a month ago. This isn't my first attempt to patch for this hardware. In fact, I had a 0% success rate until I patched the poll loop timeout so that it would increase |
[11:45:03] | neufeld: | the timeout by 1.5s on every failure, up to 10s. Once a successful read occured, the timeout dropped back to 2.5s. After that, I could actually start recordings, but sometimes several minutes late. My channel change script is in the foreground with a 2s wait on the end, and I've run an HDMI cable directly from the box to the television to observe the settling time, it's almost immediate, and it's certainly not |
[11:45:03] | neufeld: | several minutes. I've used the recommended firmware and the more recent one with the saturation bugs. I've used RCA and SPDIF for audio. Yesterday, I altered my change-channel script to not return until cat-ing /dev/hdpvr produces a stream, but that didn't help. I hadn't come across m_stable_time, I'll take a look at that after work. Thank you for the suggestions. |
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[12:55:06] | neufeld: | /neufeld_AFK |
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[13:09:41] | IReboot: | I have noticed an issue with mythextractor, the durations that a subtitle displays in the resulting srt file are so short that they cannot be read when displayed. The utility telexcc does not have that issue. See an abbreviated example: http://pastebin.com/EEJqpLqi should I create a ticket or am I doing something wrong? |
[13:10:32] | IReboot: | s/telexcc/telxcc/ |
[13:18:16] | stichnot: | IReboot: I assume the subtitles display for a similarly short/unreadable amount of time when displayed during playback? |
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[13:20:36] | IReboot: | stichnot: Exactly. Using mkvmerge I add the srt file to the original recording that had the text subtitle stripped out and the telxcc one played correctly while the mythccextractor only flashed on the screen for a moment. |
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[13:23:00] | ** neufeld_AFK wrote a perl script to fix .srt files to ensure there's a minimum on-screen duration and no overlaps ** | |
[13:23:23] | neufeld_AFK: | is there a place I could paste it? |
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[13:25:00] | stichnot: | IReboot: actually I meant to ask about subtitle display of the original recording through mythfrontend |
[13:25:18] | IReboot: | neufeld_AFK: The wiki would seem to be a good place. |
[13:25:52] | stichnot: | If it's displaying "correctly" in mythfrontend but too short in mythccextractor, that suggests one problem. If it's too short in both myth applications, that's another problem. |
[13:26:06] | IReboot: | stichnot: I had only played that video with totem and it played fine there. Give me a second and I will check. brb |
[13:27:12] | neufeld_AFK: | IReboot: I'm about to head out the door to work, so I'll try to do that later. It's part of some code I wrote to get ivtv captions working in mytharchive DVDs. I never published my working solution because it's patched against 0.24, and there's been a big overhaul of mytharchive since then. |
[13:27:26] | ** neufeld_AFK disappears, will check logs tonight ** | |
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[13:28:02] | IReboot: | stichnot: Subtitles display perfect in the frontend |
[13:28:33] | stichnot: | cool, that will make it much easier... |
[13:30:05] | stichnot: | IReboot: yes, a ticket sounds right. If at all possible, provide a link to a short sample. Looks like the first 15–30 seconds of that recording, extracted via "dd", should be enough. |
[13:31:50] | IReboot: | stichnot: Ok will do shortly. thanks |
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[14:21:07] | IReboot: | stichnot: Ticket created: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11081 |
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[14:37:17] | stichnot: | IReboot: got it, thanks! |
[14:37:31] | IReboot: | np |
[14:37:37] | gigem: | sphery: I have news from Adrian Saul regarding his db/timezone problem. It appears his db is working normally as the commands you suggested and some other ones I suggested return the expected results. He upgraded his db from version 5.1.x to 5.5.24 and also converted most of his tables back to using MyISAM, but the problem persists. It works for awhile after a backend restart, but eventually shows up and |
[14:37:39] | gigem: | then stays that way. Do we still have problems with mysql connections going stale? If so, perhaps we have a problem where the auto-reconnect doesn't restore the session timezone. |
[14:44:25] | stuartm: | I'd love to see a copy of the DLNA spec, I can't see how so many commercial devices are expecting different input and yet managing to adhere to exactly the same standard |
[14:45:13] | stuartm: | there must be a copy floating around on bit torrent, wikileaks or similar |
[14:49:46] | stuartm: | then again, google results suggest that DLNA is a poorly defined spec and no two people interpret it in the same way :/ |
[14:50:46] | peitolm: | aren't you in a safer legal position if you never see the spec :) |
[14:52:47] | stuartm: | peitolm: yes, but *personally* I no longer care if they want to try and sue me, we've been guessing at this stuff for years and we still can't manage interoperability with a number of dlna devices |
[14:54:22] | stuartm: | every change we make to support a new device breaks support for something that previously worked, it's almost as if DLNA specifies completely different output for each DLNA member's client |
[14:54:57] | stuartm: | i.e. it's no spec at all, just a listing of what each client expects |
[15:15:20] | peitolm: | I wonder if the spec include some NDA, ie, if you could ask someone who has read it, for their interpretatoin |
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[15:39:26] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: have you ever actually tried a HDHR with a windows backend? |
[15:45:18] | stuartm: | was that meant for me? |
[15:45:43] | stuartm: | I don't own an HDHR, and haven't run windows on anything in years, so no :) |
[15:46:53] | wagnerrp: | you listed on the wiki back in 2009 that the backend would work on windows with an HDHR |
[15:47:09] | stuartm: | I did? |
[15:47:19] | wagnerrp: | may be good to cut that if never actually confirmed |
[15:48:13] | dekarl1: | stuartm, can you not look at the UPNP spec and then just mimic what the davice configuration files tell e.g. ps3 media server? (yes, the others simly have "configuration" files, I'd call it quirk/fixup tables) |
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[15:48:22] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=MythTV_on_Wi . . . ;oldid=40928 |
[15:48:51] | wagnerrp: | dekarl1: the device configuration files _shouldnt_ be needed |
[15:49:11] | wagnerrp: | since those would otherwise indicate devices that are supposed to behave the same, dont |
[15:50:21] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: I doubt I would have written it if it hadn't been confirmed, but it's too long away to cite sources |
[15:50:34] | stuartm: | s/long away/long ago/ |
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[15:53:27] | stuartm: | a lot of work was being done on getting the backend to run on Windows back then, I can't remember who was doing all that though |
[15:53:48] | stuartm: | Lawrence has been working on it a lot recently though, he might be able to confirm |
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[16:09:33] | stuartm: | the oracle (sp hery) might also be able to produce a mailing list post or two |
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[16:17:31] | MythBuild: | build #1442 of cppcheck-master is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/cppc . . . /builds/1442 |
[16:20:18] | Mousey: | :D |
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