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| [08:09:40] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: http://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10921 << Could just be that the new setup isn't working too well, or our scripts aren't handle the proxying/redirects but tvdb.py is still almost completely unresponsive this morning |
| [08:11:42] | stuartm: | another thread from yesterday suggests they are in trouble, they can't afford their bandwidth bills |
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| [10:01:21] | stuarta: | anyone know where the public keys for repo access go on alcor? |
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| [10:11:35] | stuarta: | nm, found it, now i need to fix gitolite config |
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| [10:40:55] | stuarta: | all done, now hopefully it will build :) |
| [10:43:08] | stuartm: | fun new bug, has anyone touched aspect ratio detection lately? Older BBC HD recordings are being played with the wrong aspect ratio |
| [10:44:05] | stuartm: | and just to prove that these bugs always come in groups, the frontend just segfaulted |
| [10:44:12] | stuarta: | \o/ |
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| [11:48:09] | MythBuild: | build #4 of 0.25-f17–32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.25-f17-32bit/builds/4 |
| [11:49:05] | stuarta: | \o/ lotsa warnings tho |
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| [13:16:49] | MythBuild: | build #1 of master-f17–32bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . bit/builds/1 |
| [13:17:31] | stuarta: | \o/ |
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| [13:17:47] | stuarta: | fm that is a lot of warnings |
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| [13:58:15] | stichnot: | What is the relationship between mpegts-mythtv.c and mpegts.c ? |
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| [14:24:18] | sphery: | stichnot: discussed http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-04-12:02:27:43 , but AIUI, it's our modified copy of ffmpeg's mpegts.c and meant to make ffmpeg sync's easier |
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| [14:35:53] | stichnot: | sphery: the two files in the libavformat directory are not in sync. don't know if they are supposed to be |
| [14:36:09] | gigem: | stuarta: Regarding the grabber used by Adrian Saul in Australlia. He's using IceTV who provides their own xmltv grabber. I suspect it either doesn't quite comply with our xmltv expectations or there is UTC-related bu in our xmltv support. |
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| [14:41:50] | stichnot: | And of course I wonder if the files being out of sync is leading to uninitialized fields and the playback crashes. |
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| [14:55:09] | stuarta: | stuartm: ^^^ see gigem's comment |
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| [15:20:59] | stuartm: | gigem: if he can attach a sample of the output I can validate the output, there's also an xmltv validation script distributed by the xmltv project that should catch most problems with an xmltv grabber |
| [15:22:12] | stuartm: | if it passes those tests then we can look for a UTC bug, but if it's there it's subtle enough that it's apparently not affecting too many other users |
| [15:22:29] | stuartm: | I'm GMT+1 atm and I've having no trouble |
| [15:24:26] | stuartm: | gigem: other things to look at include the value of the 'XMLTV Time Offset' setting, now for all compliant grabbers that should be 'Auto' meaning that the grabber indicates the timezone for all datetimes and QT processes those to UTC accordingly |
| [15:25:03] | stuartm: | hmm, no there's a thought, is he in a different timezone to the data source? |
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| [15:32:24] | stuarta: | if it's australia it's entirely possible. |
| [15:32:36] | stuarta: | there are currently 3 timezones, 5 in summer time :) |
| [15:33:11] | stuarta: | GMT+8 (Western), GMT+9:30 (Central), GMT+10 (Eastern) |
| [15:43:44] | stuarta: | to confuse matters only the southern half of central and eastern go to summer time, resulting in 5 timezones :) |
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| [16:02:12] | stuartm: | my thinking is this, if the source states that program A begins a 8pm that's presumably true for every timezone in Oz (rather than it starting an hour earlier/later), but when we convert that to UTC and then back to the _users_ timezone it becomes 7 or 9pm instead which is strictly correct based on the recieved information but wrong in practice |
| [16:03:20] | stuartm: | I'd expect the grabber in this case to ask the user for their timezone during configuration to work around that, if indeed it's even the case that IceTV takes a one-fits-all approach to that guide data |
| [16:06:00] | stuartm: | Do you know if the East coast get programming earlier than the West coast as they do in the US? |
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| [16:44:42] | Beirdo: | stuarta: that is NOT how to update gitolite. |
| [16:45:51] | Beirdo: | it has to be done by a gitolite admin, and remotely |
| [16:50:40] | stuartm: | sphery: can we not just use the hostname for AirPlay? Seems redundant to allow users to assign another identifier to each of their machines, there's nothing stopping people entering 'Living Room' as their frontend hostname iirc |
| [16:52:20] | wagnerrp: | sounds good to me |
| [16:56:59] | stichnot: | Beirdo: is it possible that jya did the most recent ffmpeg sync without updating mpegts-mythtv.{c,h}? |
| [16:57:35] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [16:57:47] | Beirdo: | mpegts-mythtv.c is not part of ffmpeg |
| [16:57:50] | Beirdo: | it's our version |
| [16:57:57] | stichnot: | how is it generated from mpegts.c? |
| [16:58:01] | Beirdo: | it isn't |
| [16:58:29] | Beirdo: | we used to try to merge our stuff into mpegts.c, but decided to stop and create our own fiel |
| [16:58:30] | stichnot: | semantics... :) What are the differences supposed to be? |
| [16:58:38] | Beirdo: | vast differences |
| [17:00:43] | Beirdo: | that's why we decided to stop merging :) |
| [17:02:35] | gigem: | stuarta: Sorry about the misdirected message. I still haven't gotten used to this IRC clients behavior of using the first matching item on tab complettion instead of letting me know there are multiple matches. |
| [17:03:40] | gigem: | stuartm: I'll get s sample of the xmltv file. FWIW, in an earlier email, he said he's in the UTC+10 timezone. |
| [17:05:16] | Beirdo: | reminder to all. to add/remove keys from gitolite: you need to email me. I should get another person trained up on it too, I guess :) Please do NOT muck with the directory on the server, it's properly done under git control. |
| [17:05:55] | sphery: | stuartm: I like that idea--and means not adding yet another setting |
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| [17:21:23] | wagnerrp: | stuartm, sphery: i mentioned that on the ticket so it isnt forgotten |
| [17:23:31] | sphery: | thanks |
| [17:35:14] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: thanks |
| [17:37:01] | stuartm: | fwiw the 'custom identifier' can also be set through the frontend settings, under General |
| [17:37:10] | wagnerrp: | ah, did not know that |
| [17:37:23] | wagnerrp: | was about to say we should have some mechanism to change that |
| [17:37:51] | wagnerrp: | would be nice to have something independent, that gets tied into a tool to migrate settings |
| [17:38:00] | wagnerrp: | so everything gets migrated to the name in one-shot |
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| [18:01:16] | wagnerrp: | if we we want to go with just using the profile name, rather than a separate string for airplay, does someone want to make an authoritative call on #11057 before the guy puts more work into it? |
| [18:01:16] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11057 ** | |
| [18:01:36] | ** PyjamaSam <- the guy ** | |
| [18:01:38] | wagnerrp: | maybe forward it on to jya, and have the guy split these other changes he has made into another ticket? |
| [18:01:46] | wagnerrp: | ah... heh |
| [18:02:06] | PyjamaSam: | figgured I should drop in since you mentioned in the ticket you folks were chatting about it. |
| [18:02:12] | wagnerrp: | !url logs |
| [18:02:12] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword logs |
| [18:02:21] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: not active in here? |
| [18:02:57] | wagnerrp: | PyjamaSam: anyway, see stuartm's initial comment at 16:50:40... http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-08-29 |
| [18:03:08] | wagnerrp: | !url log |
| [18:03:08] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword log |
| [18:03:13] | wagnerrp: | !url list |
| [18:03:13] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword list |
| [18:03:28] | ** PyjamaSam goes off to read ** | |
| [18:05:25] | wagnerrp: | anyway, the old mysql.txt has a line commented out... "#LocalHostName=my-unique-identifier-goes-here" |
| [18:05:59] | PyjamaSam: | Ya I played with that and noticed that all my settings went away (which of course makes sense because all my settings were associated with the old hostname) |
| [18:06:02] | wagnerrp: | uncommenting that line, and putting something else in there, overrides the profile name normally used to key off all settings in mythtv |
| [18:06:30] | wagnerrp: | in 0.26, its in Configuration->LocalHostName in the config.xml |
| [18:06:31] | PyjamaSam: | I was looking at an abstraction between what the machine is called with respect to the database/hostname/infrastructure |
| [18:06:40] | PyjamaSam: | and the name that the "users" see in airplay |
| [18:07:07] | wagnerrp: | well see 17:37 in the logs |
| [18:07:34] | PyjamaSam: | that changes the "hostname" (at least from my tests) |
| [18:07:37] | wagnerrp: | comment that we need some mechanism in the frontend dialog that lets you change that setting, that migrates all database configuration along with it |
| [18:07:50] | PyjamaSam: | that was how I ran into the settings missmatch initially. |
| [18:08:21] | PyjamaSam: | ya thats a valid point |
| [18:08:38] | wagnerrp: | well thats the real issue... since it has always defaulted to the hostname, and since it is labeled as 'host' or 'hostname' in the database |
| [18:08:45] | PyjamaSam: | ya.... |
| [18:08:47] | wagnerrp: | no one ever considers it to be an arbitrary profile name |
| [18:09:33] | PyjamaSam: | which is a bit of where my head is stuck. Its hostname.. the host is frontend1.mythtv |
| [18:09:40] | PyjamaSam: | but really its the Home Theater |
| [18:09:54] | Beirdo: | !url – list |
| [18:10:04] | PyjamaSam: | though that still brings up the issue of the airplay name being "Mythtv on profilename" |
| [18:10:06] | Beirdo: | I don't think we have any at all here |
| [18:10:11] | PyjamaSam: | instead of profilename |
| [18:10:34] | Beirdo: | yeah, they are defined per channel, and we didn't define any here |
| [18:10:41] | Beirdo: | !notice |
| [18:10:41] | MythLogBot: | This channel (#mythtv) is logged — http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4 |
| [18:10:50] | wagnerrp: | true, but that's really a preference i would rather leave up to jya |
| [18:10:58] | Beirdo: | that what you were looking for? |
| [18:11:08] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that works |
| [18:11:21] | PyjamaSam: | oh ya. In all this I defer to the devs. I'll just contribute what I can. |
| [18:11:55] | wagnerrp: | same thing with the other unrelated changes you made in that patch |
| [18:12:08] | wagnerrp: | he'll probably want those split into separate commits anyway |
| [18:12:08] | sphery: | PyjamaSam: just take out the "MythTV on" part if you like? It seems the code you wrote is all good--except rather than gCoreContext->GetSetting("AirPlayDisplayName", ""), you just get the hostname? |
| [18:12:52] | sphery: | but, yeah, split up into different patches makes sense--with description of what specifically is changed and why |
| [18:13:19] | PyjamaSam: | sphery: I think that once I get over my hostname = hostname bump then ya it would work. Though I was just going for a more flexible approach – but settings for the sake of settings doens't always = awesome. |
| [18:13:20] | sphery: | (and you can do that rather easily with git, and can even submit pull requests then just link them in the tickets) |
| [18:13:33] | PyjamaSam: | Sure I can split them up no prob. |
| [18:13:45] | sphery: | PyjamaSam: we'll be changing the text so it no longer says hostname--and changing the config.xml to use something like ProfileName |
| [18:13:57] | PyjamaSam: | nice |
| [18:14:05] | sphery: | LocalHostName was always a terrible name for it--but we just haven't gotten around to changing it |
| [18:14:35] | sphery: | but in the interim, I think users would think it makes sense to advertise it using host name |
| [18:14:36] | PyjamaSam: | :-) I know that feeling |
| [18:16:26] | wagnerrp: | i thought we had an airplay/raop component in trac? |
| [18:16:41] | PyjamaSam: | I didn't see one when I created that ticket. |
| [18:17:03] | wagnerrp: | yeah, doesnt seem to be one |
| [18:17:35] | sphery: | maybe use some less-trademarked name for it when you create one? |
| [18:18:05] | wagnerrp: | raop is the 3rd party name for the protocol isnt it? |
| [18:20:11] | PyjamaSam: | raop is the audio part only, airplay is the video/audio (new) side, though not sure if it has a more generic name |
| [18:20:38] | wagnerrp: | we can always change it later... |
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| [20:00:46] | caelor: | wagnerrp, a few days back I highlighted an issue with the python bindings regarding UTC translation |
| [20:01:24] | caelor: | you mentioned you intended to commit a rewritten UTC time class before 0.26 – is there anything I can do to help, either coding or testing wise? |
| [20:02:26] | wagnerrp: | ive got the time handling class all finished |
| [20:02:34] | wagnerrp: | i just need to clean up some of the linkages and handling |
| [20:02:49] | wagnerrp: | make sure the right timezones are used in the right places |
| [20:05:06] | caelor: | ok, I'll keep doing my best to be patient and keep watching commits |
| [20:05:31] | wagnerrp: | ill get it in tonight |
| [20:05:38] | caelor: | :) thanks |
| [20:06:37] | caelor: | My main use of it is for a greenlet based long poll server, which I use to serve a web page showing current recordings & progress |
| [20:07:06] | caelor: | Effectively a kind of mythlcd replacement |
| [20:07:46] | caelor: | given it's cheaper to buy a Parrot DF3210 photo frame than an alphanumeric LCD these days |
| [20:08:10] | caelor: | (or was) |
| [20:08:56] | caelor: | possibly post 0.26 I'll look at whether I can integrate it into the backend webserver with serverside scripting |
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| [21:24:06] | Beirdo: | OK, there. |
| [21:24:19] | Beirdo: | now it SHOULD tell me when the vista slave goes down |
| [21:52:12] | stuartm: | can your mail server handle that kind of traffic? |
| [21:56:04] | clever: | lol |
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| [23:05:34] | Beirdo: | hehe. it should only email when it detects it go down, not constantly :) |
| [23:05:41] | Beirdo: | and yes. It's gmail |
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