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[04:44:00] wagnerrp: Beirdo: the CI system appears to have crapped out sunday afternoon
[04:45:31] wagnerrp: force build master-freebsd-64bit now
[04:45:39] wagnerrp: MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now
[04:45:44] MythBuild: The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[04:46:16] wagnerrp: scratch that, seems to be doing stuff now
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[05:22:19] MythBuild: build forced [ETA 25m05s]
[05:22:19] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[05:32:31] MythBuild: build #2999 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Exception [6exception install core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2999
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[15:05:48] stichnot: gigem: I never noticed the #11027 issue before, but I agree with the reporter that the "All Programs" prefix shouldn't be there. BTW, I don't think your explanation is right — for me it displays "All Programs – xxx" regardless of the group filter in effect.
[15:05:48] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11027 **
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[15:21:16] sphery: stichnot: with DispRecGroupAsAllProg (Show filter name instead of "All Programs") enabled or disabled--or does it make a difference?
[15:21:19] gigem: stichnot: Using MythCenter-wide, it changes to whatever group filter is in effect for me. I tried it to be absolutely sure before closing the ticket. FWIW, I think the filter needs to be displayed somewhere on the screen to remind the user which filter is in effect. Many times, I've had a filter in effect and couldn't figure out where my missing recordings went until I noticed the helpful text staring me
[15:21:22] gigem: in the face.
[15:24:53] gigem: stichnot: Also, feel free to reopen the ticket and tack ownership if you have a better way to handle it.
[15:25:18] sphery: pretty sure it's always "All Programs" unless you enable Show filter name... (which is disabled by default)
[15:26:09] stichnot: sphery: with DispRecGroupAsAllProg=0 it displays "All Programs – xxx" regardless of group filter. With DispRecGroupAsAllProg=1 it displays "<group> – xxx" for the current group filter value of <group>
[15:27:24] stichnot: gigem: I'll see if I can figure out an approach that works for everyone.
[15:28:04] sphery: and if you remove the group filter (go back to showing all programs), then "All Programs – " goes away, right?
[15:28:42] sphery: if nothing else, it seems to me like the proper solution is to get rid of DispRecGroupAsAllProg and just always show filter name instead of "All Programs" when the filter is enabled...
[15:29:46] sphery: otherwise we have a setting that allows the user to make it easier to use, but defaults to obscuring info--which is why we constantly get the http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . ecordings.3F
[15:31:17] sphery: I'll admit that this /is/ a very confusing case--especially when even the developers are having a hard time figuring out what's going on--so simplifying to "just do the right thing" seems like a good idea to me
[15:32:01] sphery: (or, for those who actually think it should always call whatever filter you've applied "All Programs", it's still at least doing the less-confusing thing)
[15:34:21] gigem: Simpler is definitely better in this case. FWIW, I think I'd actually prefer the filter to be shown with the screen title. For example, instead of just "Watch Recordings", it would be "Watch Recordings – All Programs", "Watch Recordings – Crime Drama", "Watch Recordings – Comedy", etc.
[15:34:54] sphery: yeah, that would work, too--I don't care where it's shown, but don't think we should offer to call it "All Programs" as a setting
[15:35:25] sphery: I think in the screen title would also be less confusing for users as to why it's doing it, too, so I like that idea
[15:35:44] sphery: plus it kind of goes along with what text editors or file managers tend to do
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[17:10:49] stichnot: I like the idea of "Watch Recordings – All Programs" as the screen title. For the Default group filter, I would just call it "Watch Recordings" without the group name to avoid clutter in the common case. (I assume that most users mostly view the Default group.) But themes would need to tweak the layout, at a minimum to use a wider area.
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[22:19:14] danielk22: Looks like http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4 is missing a few hours of logs today.. does that happen often?
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[22:44:31] sphery: danielk22: not too often... something weird happened with the server--even the mail server was dead
[22:44:59] sphery: not sure what it was, but Beirdo restarted a bunch of stuff that had "gone missing"
[22:45:18] danielk22: odd
[22:45:20] sphery: not sure if he figured out what caused it
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[23:23:11] Beirdo: it had rebooted
[23:23:26] Beirdo: not sure WHY postfix didn't come back up though
[23:23:37] Beirdo: and I start the bot manually
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