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MythBuild, MythLogBot, amessina, anykey_, brfransen, cattelan, cesman, clever, coling, damaltor, danielk22, dblain, dinamic|screen, ElmerFudd, foxbuntu, gregL, GreyFoxx, highzeth, jams, jarle, joki, jpabq, jstenback, knightr, kwmonroe, mag0o, mrand, peitolm, petefunk, pheld, poptix, purserj, seld, skd5aner, Slasher`, sphery, toeb, tris, Vernon_at_work_, Anssi, Cougar, ghoti, J-e-f-f-A, kurre2, SmallR2002, sraue, sutula, Unhelpful, vallor, wahrhaft, stichnot_, MaverickTech, rsiebert, dekarl, jwhite, idl0r, Mousey, laga, yb0t, Sharky112065, Chutt_, frankster, eharris, markcerv, XDS2010, dlblog, _Techie_-_AFK_, sunkan, f33dMB, ponyofdeath, fafa88, simonckenyon, CaCtus492, hemi770, joe___, neufeld, apollo, wolfgang
Friday, August 17th, 2012, 00:28 UTC
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[13:53:38] sphery: On #11014 , shouldn't the user just be using --compile-type=release to get stripped and debug or profile to get non-stripped binaries installed by make install?
[13:53:38] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11014 **
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[14:15:52] wagnerrp: our own ebuilds only do debug and profile... http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/packaging/tree/Ge . . . .ebuild#n187
[14:19:21] sphery: right, but the ebuild automatically strips on install, and you have to explicitly disable stripping as at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Rebuild_ . . . mbols_intact , right?
[14:20:10] sphery: in which case, is he the Gentoo guy and just doesn't know how to do that?
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[14:20:20] sphery: wagnerrp: ^^^
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[14:21:06] wagnerrp: the main ebuild maintainer is cardoe, doug goldstein
[14:21:25] wagnerrp: the guy who recently washed his association with the guy complaining about CFLAGS
[14:23:45] wagnerrp: looks like the official ebuilds have the same stanza
[14:23:49] sphery: yeah, by Gentoo guy, I meant the one who was complaining about CFLAGS
[14:24:00] wagnerrp: all builds are either debug or profile
[14:24:07] wagnerrp: meaning they shouldnt get stripped
[14:24:44] sphery: right, build isn't, but emerge strips on install, right--i.e. since it has "value added" on top of make install
[14:24:54] wagnerrp: correct
[14:25:55] sphery: and this seems to be the same guy who's using Gentoo... so, is the section of the debugging page that kormoc put in there years ago still valid? can I just close it as invalid and refer him to that for using ebuild/emerge?
[14:26:03] wagnerrp: portage will strip itself by default, you have to give it the option "nostrip" to specify otherwise
[14:26:29] sphery: (or, I suppose you could since you know the Gentoo terminology :)
[14:26:31] wagnerrp: i can do a quick build to check
[14:26:57] sphery: I was just going to mention that for make install type installation, use --compile-type, but for Gentoo do <magic>
[14:27:07] sphery: thanks for looking at it
[14:28:09] sphery: and, fwiw, building as profile and then stripping on install is very appropriate for a packaged version of MythTV, so Gentoo is handling it fine allowing just profile and debug builds
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[14:29:21] wagnerrp: just for reference, what is the difference between debug and profile?
[14:29:27] sphery: wagnerrp: oh, and please also mention that there's no --disable-stripping option for MythTV, and that's only an option in the commented-out help from ffmpeg
[14:29:58] sphery: debug has optimizations disabled and is unstripped by make install, profile has optimizations enabled and is unstripped by make install
[14:30:45] sphery: generally profile is enough for most debugging but in some cases, disabling optimizations makes it easier to see what's happening (though you don't want to run a debug build normally--it's /very/ slow)
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[14:58:32] wagnerrp: 18MB for mythbackend, 33MB for mythfrontend... definitely appears non-striped
[14:58:45] sphery: file will confirm
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[20:41:30] danielk22: I used to run gentoo, it's great in theory — ports for linux, but there are just too many people involved with the project who want someone else to do something insane for them. Any I say that as someone who just carried a couch up 3 flights of stairs for a neighbor.
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[20:48:45] danielk22: wagnerrp: #11013 is closed as fixed but there is no ticket reference..
[20:48:45] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11013 **
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[23:53:09] frankster: As i understand it mythtv doesn't support acting as a upnp client (i.e. media files are served to mythtv by a different device). Any thoughts of how complicated this would be to implement? Is this something best done in the frontend or backend? Has anyone tried this already?
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