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| [04:34:12] | skd5aner: | anyone willing to look at #10623 prior to release? I submitted it 4 months ago and is still an issue for me... I understand if it's too much to tackle prior to release, but I'm not sure anyone's even triaged it. Thanks! |
| [04:34:12] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10623 ** | |
| [04:35:11] | skd5aner: | could be simple, could be complicated – not sure :) |
| [04:35:20] | skd5aner: | but I'm guessing I'm not the only one impacted by it |
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| [05:04:18] | jya: | danielk22: are you still up? |
| [05:17:06] | jya: | I'm seeing another problem now… liveTV and channel change works well when using mythfrontend on the same machine as mythbackend. It's quite reliable and doesn't error much. |
| [05:18:27] | jya: | however, when using on another machine, I can enter LiveTV, but most channel change will fail. I see one extra line of log that I don't see on the local machine: RingBuf(myth://ip/path): Waited 1.0 seconds for data to become available … 25592 < 32768 |
| [05:18:38] | jya: | and this goes one for a little while until it just exits. |
| [05:20:01] | jya: | after 16s it exits. looks like there's some extra timeout in place when using myth:// URI that do not happen with local file system… as it usually takes more than 16s to get reliable data from a stream |
| [05:20:41] | jya: | there are so many timeout everywhere, most of them seem to be set to arbitrary values that sooner or later just fail |
| [05:21:40] | jya: | interestingly, right with liveTV start, I can change channels with no worries, seems that right when livetv starts, the values for the timeout are different which allow to change channels. Once a channel lock has been obtained, you can't change channels any longer |
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| [08:16:29] | kenni: | skd5aner: IMHO, I don't think it would be worth the time to implement a fix for it, it would be easier just to tell people to run mythcommflag against their old recordings, when they upgrade to 0.25+. I did it when I upgraded to 0.25, it took me a couple of minutes to start the job, and the next day my backend had chewed through all of the recordings and the issue was permanently fixed. |
| [08:18:47] | kenni: | I think there were some talk about that the issue was caused by changes in ffmpeg. With ffmpeg resyncs on every release, that's what can happen. |
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| [12:21:57] | danielk22: | jya: The "Waited 1.0 seconds for data to become available … 25592 < 32768" message means you are too close to the end of the file. #10658 should help with that for 0.27. For 0.26 adding small delay after the channel change occurs should fix it; the RingBuffer open should be creating a sufficient delay though. |
| [12:21:57] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10658 ** | |
| [12:22:19] | danielk22: | jya: What is the bitrate of the stream, and do you know what the RingBuffer thinks it is? |
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| [12:41:40] | jya: | danielk22: it goes on Waited 1.0 seconds ….. 25592 < 32768, waited 1.1 seconds … 25592 < 32768 1.2 seconds … up to waited 16.0 seconds … 25592 < 32768 |
| [12:41:45] | jya: | then it gives up |
| [12:42:24] | jya: | it doesn't really matter what the bitrate is, they all seem to do the same thing… the one I usually test against is changing between Nasa TV and BBC News |
| [12:42:40] | jya: | danielk22: btw, I wrote a little doc on how to set it up |
| [12:42:41] | jya: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . ing_Recorder |
| [12:43:07] | jya: | i used the childish theme as it's the one where the text is most readable using the old settings menu |
| [12:43:48] | jya: | do you want me to test with the patch from #10658 and see how it goes? |
| [12:43:48] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10658 ** | |
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| [13:28:43] | danielk22: | No point in testing with #10658. Waiting 16 seconds for 32KB of data is insane. There is no way the bitrate is really that low. |
| [13:28:43] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10658 ** | |
| [13:31:00] | danielk22: | For some reason either the data isn't getting written or we're just not seeing it. Are you using NFS? If so what is the actimeo set to? It should be 0 or 1 for LiveTV to work, but the default is 30 seconds. |
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| [13:39:05] | jya: | danielk22: nope… |
| [13:39:13] | jya: | this is on a local disk |
| [13:39:34] | jya: | then the frontend is connected via wireless (802.11n about 2 meters from the router) |
| [13:40:35] | jya: | i don't recall seeing any errors other than the "empty ringbuffer" for the H264 I mentioned earlier |
| [13:41:47] | jya: | going to bed now.. flying back to France tomorrow |
| [13:41:55] | jya: | wil be offline for a while |
| [13:42:13] | jya: | danielk22: maybe you can try the instructions I've provided with that playlist |
| [13:42:35] | jya: | the feeds are overseas.. you could try changing from say bbc news to France 24 |
| [13:42:51] | jya: | they are rather slow feed and I'm guessing you would see the problem too |
| [14:08:26] | stichnot: | skd5aner: I've taken an initial look at 10623 and a number of other incorrect-duration tickets. At least part of it appears to be a result of the ffmpeg resync, with ffmpeg unwilling to report or estimate the duration while a previous version of ffmpeg was fine. Unfortunately it's outside my expertise and I haven't been able to find a big enough block of time to really dig in. |
| [14:09:37] | skd5aner: | stichnot: cool – thanks for looking, that's all I was curious about (an initial triage and preliminary determination on feasibility of a cause and/or fix) |
| [14:09:40] | skd5aner: | ty |
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| [15:10:11] | sphery: | tgm4883: Based on http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /338162.html , it sounds like you guys are tracking bug reports for the Mythbuntu MythTV theme at launchpad (and I replied and told John that launchpad is the best place for the bug reports against it). However, I'm not sure who's actually doing the maintenance on it these days. I see that you're one of the admins on the repo, so if Gary's not interested in doing much ... |
| [15:10:17] | sphery: | ... with the theme, and you guys want to recruit someone to take it over, we can add people as committer(s) for the repo. It may be that John would be a good person to approach about it... Then again, if you guys prefer to keep the repo on launchpad and not use github, you can do that, too--there's no reason it has to be on github (and we can still even link to your site for it from http://mythtv-themes.github.com/ so it's still easy for ... |
| [15:10:23] | sphery: | ... people to find). |
| [15:11:56] | sphery: | also, we can easily create a page at http://mythtv-themes.github.com/Mythbuntu/ (similar idea, but any design, to http://mythtv-themes.github.com/Willi/ or http://mythtv-themes.github.com/A-Forest/ ), and include links to bug tracker or whatever. I'm happy to help with that if you like. |
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| [15:39:52] | tgm4883: | sphery, yea, I literally just got access to that over the weekend |
| [15:40:39] | tgm4883: | sphery, we want it to be downloadable via the theme downloader in the frontend |
| [15:41:33] | tgm4883: | I'm unsure of what the requirements are for that, I kinda just took this over since nobody was doing it |
| [15:41:52] | tgm4883: | which seems to be how I end up being the go to guy for most thigns |
| [15:43:41] | sphery: | tgm4883: for the theme downloader, it can be hosted anywhere--we just need to be able to pull a copy using http/ftp/svn/git or similar |
| [15:43:49] | tgm4883: | ah ok |
| [15:44:32] | tgm4883: | so then I'll probably want to move this to launchpad, unless there are people that want to do maintenance on it |
| [15:44:38] | sphery: | the main reason that we put up the repo for Mythbuntu theme is because it used to be in mythtv-themes in our main repo, so it had some history in the repo that we tried to preserve in case it was useful for author/maintainer |
| [15:45:10] | sphery: | I'm assuming on launchpad, you could add commit access for someone else, if you found a maintainer, right? |
| [15:45:26] | tgm4883: | yea, they would need a LP account though |
| [15:45:45] | sphery: | ok, so basically the same as github (we can add new people once they get a github account)... |
| [15:45:59] | sphery: | so if launchpad is easier for you guys, we can move it there |
| [15:46:18] | tgm4883: | yep it's easier for me. I see no reason for me to learn GIT AND MythTV theming |
| [15:46:31] | sphery: | hehe, yeah |
| [15:46:33] | tgm4883: | unless superm1 objects, it's getting moved |
| [15:46:49] | tgm4883: | but I'll work on that tomorrow I think |
| [15:46:53] | sphery: | do you want to reach out to John and see if he's interested in doing some work on the theme? |
| [15:47:04] | tgm4883: | sure |
| [15:48:10] | sphery: | I see a lot info on converting from bzr to git, but not much on the reverse--how important is the history to you? I'd guess it's mainly obfuscated, anyway, since it was mainly, "import mythbuntu theme," "update mythbuntu theme with changes from gary" type stuff versus per-change commits/messages |
| [15:48:58] | sphery: | or do you guys already have an up-to-date copy in launchpad's bzr? |
| [15:50:45] | tgm4883: | looking now |
| [15:51:49] | superm1: | tgm4883: um i dont know abou moving it |
| [15:51:58] | superm1: | can we discuss a little bit further |
| [15:52:03] | superm1: | because our build process needs adjusting too then |
| [15:52:16] | tgm4883: | superm1, no, the window for discussing it ended 1 minute ago ;) |
| [15:52:32] | sphery: | no need to make decisions right away--just wanted to mention that however is easiest for you guys will work for us |
| [15:52:52] | sphery: | and feel free to let me know what your plans are and I can help update/move stuff |
| [15:53:12] | tgm4883: | sphery, moving it is relatively easy, I can import a Git branch in LP |
| [15:53:19] | sphery: | also was hoping to get some Mythbuntu-theme user to help you guys out--since you have plenty to do |
| [15:53:33] | superm1: | tgm4883: what does this buy us though? |
| [15:53:42] | superm1: | easier to merge changes into the theme? |
| [15:53:48] | tgm4883: | superm1, it buys me not having to learn Git |
| [15:54:00] | superm1: | well git isn't that complicated |
| [15:54:22] | tgm4883: | superm1, sec while I assign these bugs to you ;) |
| [15:54:25] | sphery: | tgm4883: then again, maybe this would help: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/ForeignBranc . . . anches%2FGit |
| [15:54:40] | sphery: | make a bzr view of the git repo? |
| [15:54:55] | superm1: | i mean i moved packaging from bzr to git so that it would be easier for upstream visibility and end user visibility |
| [15:55:02] | superm1: | i think it seems silly to put stuff back in bzr now |
| [15:55:55] | tgm4883: | superm1, could be. I don't really have a preference where it is. |
| [15:56:15] | tgm4883: | we need to get people commit access to it, and we need to figure out a single location for theme bugs |
| [15:56:16] | superm1: | well i mean as long as someone from us can commit to it where it's at now, that's the path of least resistance IMO |
| [15:56:18] | tgm4883: | which IMO needs to be LP |
| [15:56:29] | superm1: | theme bugs on LP is fine with me |
| [15:56:48] | tgm4883: | sphery, can we close/redirect bugs on github to LP? |
| [15:57:09] | tgm4883: | my knowledge of git/github ends at "I have a github account" |
| [15:57:24] | sphery: | we could put up a home page for the theme that directs users to LP for bugs... I'll look to see if there's a way to disable the in-github issue tracker |
| [15:58:24] | sphery: | it's really as simple as they say, at: http://pages.github.com/ |
| [16:00:09] | sphery: | Just click the "Automatic Page Generator" button at https://github.com/MythTV-Themes/Mythbuntu/admin |
| [16:00:46] | sphery: | looks like we can also disable issues and th ewiki there--want me to? |
| [16:01:14] | tgm4883: | sphery, I can see that here and do that too |
| [16:01:49] | sphery: | cool... then with a home page linking to LP, it should be easy enough to find and not confusing for the user (because there will be only one) |
| [16:02:15] | sphery: | and as simple as the home pages are to create, it's easy to throw something up for short term and then add/change it later |
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| [20:51:48] | MythBuild: | build #4192 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4192 blamelist: Jonatan Lindblad <jlindblad@mythtv.org > |
| [20:55:04] | MythBuild: | build #2646 of master-debian-stable-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2646 blamelist: Jonatan Lindblad <jlindblad@mythtv.org > |
| [20:55:59] | SteveGoodey: | Beirdo normally cusses now. |
| [21:08:25] | Beirdo: | umm, what's going on here :) |
| [21:12:48] | Beirdo: | natanojl: I think you just put in something that requires Qt 4.8 |
| [21:13:10] | natanojl: | 4.7 actually :) |
| [21:14:03] | Beirdo: | fair enough |
| [21:14:09] | natanojl: | Just pushed a fix |
| [21:14:10] | Beirdo: | our prereq is 4.6 |
| [21:14:12] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:14:24] | Beirdo: | cool. :) I fell into that myself a few times before |
| [21:15:59] | Beirdo: | I've been busy breaking other code lately (at work) so someone has to be breaking this code. |
| [21:16:02] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:17:42] | natanojl: | :) |
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| [21:23:21] | Beirdo: | jya: you in? |
| [21:26:00] | MythBuild: | build #4193 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4193 |
| [21:26:21] | Beirdo: | pretty |
| [21:26:23] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:26:36] | natanojl: | yay :) |
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| [21:32:09] | jya: | Beirdo: I am.. not for very long however, going to be a very busy morning here |
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| [21:51:22] | Beirdo: | jya: OK, was just wanting to ask you what the format is on SPDIF when not stereo PCM |
| [21:51:29] | Beirdo: | but that can be later on :) |
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| [22:32:05] | jya_: | Beirdo: if not stereo PCM, it's a iec958 stream containing either AC3 or DTS |
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